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Ryan Goodyear
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3/07/2001
23:45:31
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Does anyone know anything about these? Ive never seen anyone show an interest in them so I am assuming theyre a gimmick. Any significant power gains from these?
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Kris
GenII
3/08/2001
00:11:43
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One word: CRAP!!!!
Kris Harnack
1994 Dakota V6 SLT
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Ryan Bailey
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3/08/2001
01:49:13
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Yes this part is very effective because It spins the incomming air which creates better combustion and air to fuel ratio. Trust me I work at AirAid Intake System and we are the makers of the PowerAid. If at anytime you want to see the Dyno sheets try AirAid.com or PowerAid.com and they may have them posted or call (480)443-3333 and talk to a tech.I think that they make 10-12lbs of torque and 10hp. I the Intake Made over 10rwhp on the Dyno though. I put the Intake and Spacer on my pops dakota and it kicked ass. check it out. any ?'s write back. Later Bailey
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95DakotaV8
GenII
3/08/2001
06:04:48
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I think the general consensus on this web site it that these are a gimmick. Several guys on this site have the dyno sheets to prove it.
Kevin Rants
95 Dakota CC SLT 4x4, 5.2L, 5spd, 3.90 rear end
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Bernd
GenIII
3/08/2001
08:19:43
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Yup, crap. I Dyno and Track tested the Powerjunk spacer and it doesn't work. Spacers work great for Carbureted and TBI systems, but not MPI...especially on our MPI systems. The factory manifolds have a restriction that defeats the whole purpose of the spacer.
On those figures, 10RWHP is 12-15HP at the crank (taking driveline loss into consideration). I highly doubt those figures for the spacer.
Several people that I know have tested them as well (3.9/5.2/5.9L) and they don't work. Those figures that they put up are "Up to xxHP" and there's a neat marketing trick behind those numbers as well. You take the test vehicle with the highest gains from your product and then set the claim of "Up to xxHP".
Bernd D. Ratsch
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT
Supercharged w/Nitrous
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Bernd
GenIII
3/08/2001
09:19:08
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Last key point on this:
"Yes this part is very effective because It spins the incoming air which creates better combustion and air to fuel ratio."
One problem with that theory...there is no Air/Fuel ratio in the intake manifold. It's a dry manifold. The fuel is introduced in the intake runner right before the head. By the time the (alleged) swirled air hits the runner, it has already made 2 turns in the manifold. Also, the manifold plenum is rather large...no chance for the air to keep swirling. (So much for the "Helix Bore" process.)
Again, they're garbage. Save the $90 and get a modified Throttle Body. (Notice on their website that there's NO Dodge Dyno sheet.)
** These spacers could be (in theory) a decent modification on a single place intake with unobstructed runners. (M1-MPI) But, that would be application specific. **
Bernd D. Ratsch
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT
Supercharged w/Nitrous
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Ryan Goodyear
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3/08/2001
10:08:17
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Yup--just as I suspected. Ryan Bailey...spoken like a true salesman however I'll pass and spend money I dont have on a couple Quick D products.
Thanks guys.
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Bernd
GenIII
3/09/2001
10:49:11
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Update: Email sent to PowerAid...
"Please email me the Dodge Dyno sheets, that you have, on the HP gains for the Poweraid Spacer. I have personally tested the spacer on my truck (with and without the Supercharger) and it did not show any gains in HP (local Dyno test), no gains in MPG, and no gains at the track.
My concerns with the 10-12HP claims from Poweraid is rather amusing. The factory intake manifolds have a restriction at the plenum divider and the air must make two turns before entering the combustion chamber. How do you keep the "Helix" effect working on a 90 degree turn and then on a 45 degree turn?"
Bernd D. Ratsch
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT
Supercharged w/Nitrous
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justin
Dodge Dakota
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7/18/2003
09:46:55
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I haven't had a ghance to get my spacer put on my truck yet because it hasn't arrived. I have read as much as i could find on the spacers. I just hope it will help improve my 1992 GMC's proformance.
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01Motorsport
Dodge Dakota
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7/19/2003
17:44:52
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The General's performance shortage once again forces a refugee to search on a Mopar web site...
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Big Body Cadillac
Dodge Dakota
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6/17/2005
18:48:12
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Yall are all a bunch of dumbasses. I baught a throttle body spacer for my 1998 mustang and ran a dyno test. I got a 7 h.p. increase. I think most of you are lieing about even having a throttle body spacer. Especially Bernd or whatever the fuc# your name is. Youre just a dumb ass ,fake ass, ho ass, pussy who doesnt know what the fuc# youre talking about. Oooooooo Big deal you just had to put on youre reply that youre piece of crap dodge dakota had nitrous and a rigged ass supercharger. What a little bitc#. As for you ryan baily you kick ass.
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Diddler
Dodge Dakota
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6/17/2005
19:56:00
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What brand spacer did you buy?
This discussion is mainly about the Poweraid spacer.
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Yoplay
Dodge Dakota
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6/17/2005
19:58:12
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One word for you Caddy a$$. Richard Caranium!
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Chip Marshall
Dodge Dakota
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6/17/2005
21:59:50
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I just got done changing the throttle body with one from The Fastman on my 2000 4.7. There is NO WAY that a spacer will make any difference. The air *may* spiral, but it will flatten out before it hits the back of the intake.
I need to do a new post on all of this. Read up...
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father time
Dodge Dakota
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6/17/2005
22:26:42
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Hey Big Body Cadillac, or any other of you idiot sticks who posted after Big Body Cadillac, have any of you looked at the dates of the previous post? what a bunch of dumb rocks!
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Chip Marshall
Dodge Dakota
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6/17/2005
22:56:14
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Yeah, whatever... who cares...
A thread is a thread.
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Luke
Dodge Dakota
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6/18/2005
10:16:11
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He installed it on a Ferd Stang NOT A KOTA!!!!!
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Dodge Dakota
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Dodge Dakota
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2/17/2010
03:00:37
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well the thing is alone it wont do much cause if you get more air it has to be able to escape just as fast as it comes in so if you dont change your exhaust with it as well it wont do much except maybe improve throttle responce but ya it would work best i think with a exhaust upgrade but either way dont expect the world from them but i believe it would work if you combine with a better exhaust but in the end if you realy wanna know just try it for yourself and find out statistics only go so far just do it
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