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04dakota
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11/29/2006
17:30:36
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I have a 2004 dakota SXT. The front rotors warped at 20,000. I replaced them with standard replacements from Advanced Auto Parts and bought the cheapest brake pads they sold. I'm currently at 40,000, and am wanting to change pads to ceramic pads. The squealing is driving me crazy. In the 20,000 miles that I've had them on, I've taken them apart twice used grease once and another brake quiet product on the backs, however they still scream. They only scream at a certain braking pressure though!?!? I was wondering if I should switch to ceramic, and in doing so, would I need to have the rotors turned?
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Kevin
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11/29/2006
18:11:44
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Yes! Don't change to ceramic pads without turning the rotors first.
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Helsmire
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12/03/2006
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This may sound retarded but it works... Part of the squealing you hear is actually metal bits still left over from the last time the rotor was cut(be it from manufacturing or turning the rotor after use). These pieces are microscopic in size. A trick ive learned is after you clean rotors with your typical brake clean, run it under hot soapy water and wash it after its turned, then dry it off. Also scrub down the bracket for the caliper with brake clean and a good steel wire brush.
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eddy
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12/03/2006
12:31:49
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You get what you pay for. I put Bendix titaniummetallic 2 pads and Raybestos premium rotors on with my last front pad and rotor change. Rotors were 70$, pads were 50$ or so. Since then no squealing, no warpage, no vibration, great brake feel. Everybody seems to think you can only go with the cheapies or else something exotic if that doesn't work. There IS an in between, you know. Expect a compromise somewhere when you walk in and shop strictly by price, but you don't need to go to a really fancy setup either.
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Frustrated
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12/04/2006
16:45:17
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Can anyone help me?? Speaking of pads and rotor probs, I have an 2002 V8 4x4 with 46000 miles. My brakes have been soft for awhile now, like u put it almost to the floor before you get any braking resistance. anyways I have had my lines bled, my master cylinder replaced, and at those times my pads and rotors were all fine. Of course by now they probably need replacing, but several mechanics have looked at it, fixed various things, and they all agreed something was wrong but they had no other ideas. Today my ABS and parking brake lights were coming on intermittently. my brakes suck and im at my wits and wallets end. any ideas? thanks
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.boB
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12/05/2006
15:30:26
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New pads and/or rotors probably won't change much. But if they are glazed or burnt, that could be a problem. Also, if the caliper is not sliding on it's mounts correctly, you won't get much brake power.
But try this, it's almost free. Remove the caliper from the spindles, and the pads from the calipers. Clean everything really well with brake cleaner. Clean the rotors, both sides of the pads, the pad contact points on the calipers, the caliper pins, and the caliper mounting areas on the spindle. Makes sure they are clean and smooth. If there rust or crud build up, remove it with a wire brush.
Resurface the rotor and pads with 130 grit sandpaper on a drill motor wheel. The pads just need a light touch. But sand on the rotors until they are shiny in the pad contact area.
Check the caliper pins to be sure they are straight and clean. They often rust a bit, and can usually be cleaned up with a wire brush. If they are suspect, replace them.
Reassemble everything. Use a little synthetic axle grease on the pins and caliper/spindle contact areas.
Also, be sure and carefully inspect and adjust the rear brakes. If they are not working, your front brakes alone are not enough.
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TexasTodd
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12/07/2006
22:42:26
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Bob said:
'Also, be sure and carefully inspect and adjust the rear brakes. If they are not working, your front brakes alone are not enough.'
Isn't that what the parking brake does?=keep the rear drum brakes adjusted?
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Bob Lincoln
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12/08/2006
08:39:40
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No, the parking brake does not adjust the rears. Backing up and hitting the brakes activates the starwheel adjuster. That's why people who back up and throw the tranny into drive to stop, don't get any rear brake adjustment.
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.boB
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12/08/2006
16:27:38
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"Isn't that what the parking brake does?=keep the rear drum brakes adjusted? "
Sort of. That's what it's supposed to do. But many times they don't always work. A simple manual adjustment is often needed.
And sometimes the rear brakes don't work at all - bad cylinders, distribution block, ABS, etc. Don't just assume they are working correctly. You've got to check the entire braking system.
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