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naa10
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10/28/2006
19:02:03

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Hey, i got a 02 dakota v-6 3.9L quad cab. i want to get more power.. but not for that much money? any thoughts... i was thinking K&n intake.. but couldnt find one.. and then wasnt sure wat to do with the exhaust... any ideas??



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10/28/2006
19:12:05

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Getting more power is actually pretty simple in concept. But it can get expensive. You have to be acrefull not spend a boatload of cash and only get 3hp.

You also have to be carefull that the extra you do get is usable. Making 25 hp at 5500 rpm probably isn't that usefull to most truck owners. But 10 ft/lbs of torque at 2000 rpm is very usefull.

A cold air intake is a simple and (relativly speaking) inexpensive mod. It's usually worth a few ponies down low. Dropping a flat panel K&N filter into your stock box will do nothing.

A cat back exhaust sounds good, but isn't likely to net you any usable power. Still a lot of restriction from the cats and head pipe. Consider changing the entire exhaust with high flow components from the manifolds back. Headers are worth some power, but not a lot and they are expensive.

Also consider replacing the rear gears with something a little lower, like 3.92 or 4.10. Lots of bang for the buck on a 2 wheel drive truck.

Best bang for the buck is going to be reporgramming the computer. Usually well under $300. Takes 15 minutes, including opening the box and reading the instructions.



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10/28/2006
21:49:05

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ya that makes sense..

about the cold air intake.. i was looking at those.. the one i found for the v6 is the airaid? is that the right one to get?

where would i find sites to get the other mods from?



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10/28/2006
23:24:40

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You could look into making a home brew....save you lots of $$



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10/29/2006
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Check the homebrew one out that this guy did. Don't know how much it costed but, looks good and with pics.
http://www.dodgetrucks.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=79449



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10/29/2006
14:01:30

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AirAid is a popular brand. It's not rocket science, so making your own isn't all that difficult. Also, you can often find good prices on e-bay.

I also forgot to mention rocker arms. Increasing the ratio will act like putting in a slightly larger cam shaft. Lots of article about that.

Google is your friend.



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10/29/2006
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"A cold air intake is a simple and (relativly speaking) inexpensive mod. It's usually worth a few ponies down low. Dropping a flat panel K&N filter into your stock box will do nothing."

A drop in filter will do just as much for you as a stupid so-called cold air intake that won't drop that actually intake temp even five degrees.

The v6 uses the same stock intake as the v8 and it is silly to think that the engine requires or can even use more than that. If anything can be gained from higher flowing filters it is on the top end and not "down low."

The same goes for a better flowing exhaust system. You won't benefit from it now. Get the engine to inhale better first and then you might have some use for those things later. Look at a cam or rockers and some porting to improve your intake.



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10/30/2006
17:14:51

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Excellent point - there is plenty of airflow at low rpms; N56629 is correct about this only being a small gain at higher rpms.

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naa10
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10/30/2006
23:11:41

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ok so.. after all this info.. where to start?



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10/31/2006
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Swap in a V-8



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10/31/2006
13:00:46

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Buy a new truck.



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10/31/2006
18:44:24

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you guys that buy v-6's and then cry more power. lol If you had gotten a V-8 to begin with you wouldn't be moaning now. and it's ironic that the price of a V-8 over a V-6 was probably a couple hundred dollars. Yet you'll spend more than that modding it for more power. And don't give me the jazz about it was a used car. they sell used Daks with V-8's too, hee hee



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10/31/2006
18:50:15

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but not nice to gloat, little one !



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11/01/2006
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the car was a gift to me. i had no choice.. so now i want to add the power



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11/01/2006
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First, I would reprogram the computer. That's the easiest and best bang for the buck.



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11/01/2006
16:14:32

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little jer said "you guys that buy v-6's and then cry more power. lol If you had gotten a V-8 to begin with you wouldn't be moaning now."

if that's true then maybe all the v8 guys wanting more power should put hemi's in all their daks.

no matter if its a I4 or a V10, what's wrong with wanting more power?????????



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11/01/2006
19:01:09

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Exactly - can't be too rich, or have too much power under the hood...

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11/01/2006
20:58:51

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hahah exactly.. even if u were to have say... a ram srt10 with 500something horses under the hood, nothing wrong with wanting even more...

but on another note.. reprogramming the computer brings up something i ofund the interenet.. u go to like ebay.com and type "02 dakota chip" it brings up options for a more hp chip.. those any good?



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11/01/2006
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well kowalski may need a little more power to push that plow through the drifts. And I suppose the Chevy guys with the S-10's and their 4.3 V-6's are praying for more power. Granted, the V-6 just doesn't have the pulsating, vibrating, rumble of a V-8. However, sometimes more power can get you into trouble, both ticket wise and accident wise.



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11/01/2006
21:31:27

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only if u dont know how to drive... and for tickets... radar detectors? lol



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11/01/2006
23:39:44

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The V8s are so hard to find in the good packages. Why are people so reluctent on buying a V8-5speed, RC, 2wd? That is what I like. I do not want a EC or auto or 4wd.



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