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Todd W
Dodge Dakota
7/12/2001
21:11:15
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Alright, I've got several people telling me one thing, and a manufacturer telling me another. I need input!
Have:
2000 Dakota Regular Cab 2x4
Low-Gear Rear Axle (I don't recall which ratio)
V6 3.9L w/Airaid intake
5-Speed Manual Tranny.
Want:
Shorter-throw shifter
Told:
I've been told by people that the 2000 V6 is mated to the same NV-3500 on the V8s.
Hurst Says:
"We only have a shifter for the V6 Dakotas with the AX-15. We have not tried the V8 shifter on the V6 truck yet. It probably won't work, there
are a number of different NV3500's."
Need to know:
Whats the scoop? Has ANYONE tried the Hurst Compitition Plus shifter on the V6 5-speed yet? If not, I'd like to hear from people with 2000 Dakota 5-speeds using ANY type of shifter/mod to get a shorter throw. 8 inches is a tad much.
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Anthony
Dodge Dakota
7/12/2001
21:43:05
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Chuck installed one on his truck it's a V6 5 speed. www.intense99dak.com/index.htm
I wouldn't mind getting a short-throw shifter on my truck too, because like you said Todd 8" is a tad much. Would a short-throw smooth out the shift too? I've notice that the shifts are alittle notchy.
Anthony
www.geocities.com/intense79/index.html
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Todd W
Dodge Dakota
7/12/2001
22:01:45
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Anthony,
Yeah, I saw that one. 4" would be MUCH better, eh? He says it didn't help with the notchyness, although I'm not bothered by it. It feels "truckish" to me, and a LOT more solid-shifting than the S-10 I test drove. I'm just a little worried that that shifter is only rated to '99, and I've already discovered differences between the '99 and '00 model years. Mostly electrical so far, but I'm sure it's more pronounced than that.
$182 is a bit much to spend, I think, on something that MAY not fit... but if it does, I'll buy it in a second! Maybe I'll Email Hurst on that one...
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jimmeyjack
Dodge Dakota
7/12/2001
22:34:03
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a little notchey?! but only at low rpm's. feels like a 1950's 2 ton truck! alot of backlash noise too.
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mike 2
Dodge Dakota
7/12/2001
23:02:39
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where can you get a short shifter for 182
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Todd W
Dodge Dakota
7/12/2001
23:40:27
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I think it was on Jegs.com... I think... one of those online places like that. I had to do a search by model number.
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Marc S.
Dodge Dakota
7/13/2001
12:40:28
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Okay here is my experience on this: I have a 2000 4x2 3.9v6 with the 5-speed, I called the dealer and was told by the parts department that the v-8 and v-6 mated to the nv3500 trans show the same shifter part number if you order the stock shifter, and since you are only replacing that with the hurst and nothing else internal, there is no reason that it shouldn't fit, after all the v-6 is just a shorter block that bolts up to the tranny the same way, just 2 less cylinders in the casting. I plan to take my chances and order the hurst as soon as I can afford it.
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Pete
Dodge Dakota
7/13/2001
12:50:18
| 5-Speed Shifter Questions Answered!
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ok - here is what i know (and ive installed a Hurst shifter on my 97 v6 Dakota):
there is a Billet Plus shifter for the AX-15 transmission (part number 391-5050, i bought at summitracing and it took a month to get), and there is a Competition Plus shifter for the v8 engine (dont know the transmission number, because - well, i dont have one)....so, there you have it....
notchiness is STILL there (thats what i was hoping to alleviate)....
still nice to have a chrome stick and a white shift knob (extra 30 bucks!)....i have the camel and black interior and it looks great....
4 bolts hold the shifter in place, and it took me maybe 1.5 hours to install it....piece o cake....
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Todd W
Dodge Dakota
7/13/2001
14:12:02
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Yeah, the 3.9L is basically the.. uh.. 5.2L? With two cylinders lopped off. From what it looks like to me, it's the same tranny as the NV3500 V-8 (same bolt pattern), so yes it should fit. I was really looking for confirmation that they had switched to the NV3500 in 2000, from the AX15. Since the shifter for the V-6 and V-8 has the same Dodge part number, that lends to that theory. Looks like I know what I'll be ordering next! Thank you, everyone, for your help.
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kicker01
Dodge Dakota
7/14/2001
14:28:55
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I have a '01 RC 4.7 5spd. I checked into getting a hurst comp/plus short throw shifter but was told by their techs in a email that it wouldnt fit the '01's and that they were in the process or developing one. Hursts website however, says the shifter will fit 1994-2000 Dodge Dakota V8's with NV3500 transmission.
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Alshadow
Dodge Dakota
7/25/2001
23:27:46
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If anyone is successful w/ getting and installing a Hurst shifter on a NV 3500, please let us all know.
I purchased one last year for my 98 Dak. 5.2, after being told by Hurst that it would fit, only to find out it was for the V6 only. Thankfully the parts dealer let me return it for full credit.
They do seem to have a new shifter (Part No. 391-0155) that they are advertising on their web site for the NV 3500.
Also one was sold on eBay the last couple of days for about $160.
Let us know.
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Pete
Dodge Dakota
7/26/2001
10:55:35
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http://www.gr8ride.com/cgi-bin/pm/common/prodReview.jsp?channel=American&community=Americanmopar&oid=112360
an article about the Hurst shifter....
i hope the link works....i just cut it and pasted it...
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DAK2
Gen III
7/26/2001
17:19:50
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According to the FSM both the V6 & V8 use the NV3500 tranny the 4 holer uses the NV1500.
I was told the same thing by Hurst about a week
ago.
I also tried to get the new FIPK from K&N for the
"00"&"01 5.9l engines in DAK & DURANGO but they
said it wouldn't fit because of engine bay differences (what differences?)they also said it was a pollution issue(HUH?)
Y2K DAK 3.9L 5 Spd OS/2 Keeps going&going&going
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Alshadow
Dodge Dakota
7/26/2001
21:58:20
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Pete,
Good post on Hurst install. Doesn't look too hard. Who has the best price?
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94DAK
Dodge Dakota
7/27/2001
10:10:18
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just out of curiosity... why not just cut about 4" off of the shift lever and then use a tap and die to rethread the lever? that sounds to me like it would work and be a lot cheaper. any thoughts??
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dropt98dakota
Dodge Dakota
7/27/2001
11:24:45
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How much does the hurst shifter really shorten the throw, I have read that it is a mear 4" from first to second, well yesterday I went to my dak with a ruler and measured my thorw from first to second and it came in at an huge stroke of 5", really is it worth the $300 to get the hurst. For only 1" difference I think NOT. I am in canada that is why $300.
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Todd
Dodge Dakota
7/27/2001
19:41:15
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5 Inches? Geez, mine is like... 8!
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kelly
Dodge Dakota
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5/26/2003
11:19:55
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i have a v8 5.2 want to modif it some what a 5speed would be somthing iam nterestesd in doing ang comments thankls
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