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Mathieu82
Dodge Dakota
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6/22/2005
15:36:21
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I was looking for a dyno and the one I found near of here was a 2WD only... Can I remove the front drive shaft to go on it?? How will react the coupling if the front end on the transfert case don't turn?
I want to be sure that nothing will break if I do this.
Dakota 2002 4,7L Paxton Novi 1000 9Psi, Borla catback, Gibson headers
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92dak
Dodge Dakota
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6/22/2005
16:18:43
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There's an AWD dakota? On some cars there is a way to disable that, sometimes it's a fuse that you can put in, whether your truck has that ability is beyond me. A truck with AWD is pointless to me. Maybe the owner's manual may say something about it?
If it is a 4x4 then just put it in 2wd.
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Boy Howdy
Dodge Dakota
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6/22/2005
19:38:30
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Yes. All-wheel drive is (or was) an option.
My brother-in-law has an AWD 2003 Dakota.
If the selector switch has a 2WD position, you do not have AWD and can safely do the dyno thing.
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John K
Dodge Dakota
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6/22/2005
21:45:48
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My 2000 QC is AWD also, has no 2wd selection on the transfer case shifter. When I bought my truck, I went to several dealers, and none of the salesmen had a clue there were 2 different transfer cases. They were dumbfounded when I asked them to show me how to switch to 2WD.
If you remove the front driveshaft to disable it, then your rear wheels would not spin because the front-rear differential in the transfer case is open, in regular 4WD (AWD) mode. You would have to put the transfer case in 4-hi-lock, and it would probably work. I don't know how the newer electronic transfer case would react to a missing drive shaft.
When I take it in for the biannual E-test, the mechanics love it because they aren't required to run it on the dyno. They just check emissions at idle and 2000 rpm ...done in about ten minutes.
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Lurkin
Dodge Dakota
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6/23/2005
14:38:09
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I have an 02 QC AWD also. Won't even bother to respond to the 'why' question earlier.
Have you looked for an AWD dyno? They do exist.
If you do remove the driveshaft, you'll need to put in into 4wd high as John said. Even then the xfer case will sap some HP.
To be honest with you, I don't think dyno'ing it is worth the cost, unless you want to do some air-fuel tuning. If you're looking for performance improvements, go get a G-tech and do some street runs. Should be cheaper over the long-run.
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deerridge
GenIII
6/24/2005
10:49:16
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Obviously your a city and sunshine driver if you don't know why AWD is in a truck. It gives a very noticable improvement in handling and also puts less strain on your rear end when towing. I'm in and out of barns and dirt and mountains on a daily basis. I've only had to go into 4WD a couple times in 62000 miles. In snow and ice I like it better than 4WD. I've had G teck readings from 165 to 230 on mine. 0 to 60 is 7.75 with the quarter at 15.75@89mph. I pull a three horse trailer weighing in at 3500 lbs plus three horses loading up to 7300lbs total tow weight plus assorted people and gear. I haul 1200 to 1500lbs of feed weekly. That's what real horse power is for in a truck. AWD is great stuff, enjoy!!
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034.7
Dodge Dakota
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6/25/2005
01:51:50
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I'd edge away from running a central diff AWD with a disabled drive shaft. that could cause some funky loads to transfer through the center diff unit
I'd hop and find an AWD dyno
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samtheman
Dodge Dakota
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6/26/2005
07:01:44
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I have a 03, 5.9QC. Just had to jump in on this because of the AWD. I ordered AWD because here in NW PA you'll have plowed roads that get sun and clear pretty good, then you'll go around a curve and your looking at a sheet of ice. I've been driving nothing but 4X4s since I came home from viet nam in 1970 and this is probably the best snow vehicle I've ever had. Our 03 legacy's tires are to wide and it "floats" on snow. I get 15+mpg going the 20 miles to work in the summer. First winter I'd only get 12 to 13, however, this past winter I was mostly around 14. Interstate trips I get 16++ (I know if I ever took it into level Ohio I'd get 17!). Came with a medium grade Wrangler tire that are wearing like iron, can't believe how great they are, 35,000 and I'll definetly get another winter out of them. I run magnaflow single 3" cat back and have plumbed and insulated my intake into the fender wall, made the openings behind and below the headlight bigger to let more cold air in. Stock truck other wise. One other thing about the tires. My last commuter was a 95 cherokee (180,000) and soon after tire rotation they'd be out of balance. This always happened. This truck still rides perfectly smooth after five rotations.
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deerridge
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6/27/2005
14:08:58
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I get 17mpg with the 4.7 and AWD doing all around driving, better on long trips. I think it's a great system. It sure works for me.
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