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Jag
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7/12/2004
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I was on the phone with Dodge today asking about my options for a 360c.i. motor for my R/T. I didn't realize I had so many options. I have the stock 250hp, 300hp, 380, and 395 packages. The 380hp only cost $3200 my cost.
Not bad...
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ScojoDak
Dodge Dakota
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7/12/2004
15:01:37
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Are those motors EFI or carbed?
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prple-gaseatr
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7/12/2004
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hey man be careful with the mopar crate motors, i hate to bash mopar since im a die hard man, but ive seen several crate motors not live up to their advertised horsepower. the way they make them, is chrysler makes the castings, then they contract joe-blow from the machine shop down the road to prep and assemble the motors. another friend has had 4 sets of performance heads turn out wrong, i think it was bad valve geometry. the rep came out, told him to keep the best set of heads, and gave him his money back. i dont mean to ruin anyones day, but just make sure everything is good before installation.
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Sneezer
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7/12/2004
17:43:38
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Most of the crate motors are also carbuerated, and thus will not work with your stock fuel injection setup. You can make them work, but it is significantly more work to do so.
Personally I would build up your existing 360 unless it has really high mileage or some other problem that would prevent it. Get a better cam, R/T heads, performance roller/rockers, PCM, cold air intake, headers, cat-back, M1 intake and a 52mm TB.
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prple-gaseatr
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7/12/2004
18:23:33
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ditto sneezer
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janesy
Dodge Dakota
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7/12/2004
22:03:24
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I'm still waiting for the to release the price on the new 406 stroker shortblock.
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gen1dak
Dodge Dakota
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7/12/2004
23:32:57
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And then you have others running low 12's and showing 409hp from the so-called 380 horse 360.
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Jag
Dodge Dakota
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7/13/2004
09:22:28
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The motors are set up for a 4-barrel carb. By the looks of the motor, the only modifcation would be a switch of intakes to the TB.
I can't believe a multi-billion dollar company would have "Joe blow" machine the heads. Mopar doesn't have a performance machine shop? The race don't they?
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prple-gaseatr
Dodge Dakota
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7/14/2004
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I know it sounds pretty screwed up since they contract a seprate machine shop to assemble the motors, but it is true. That is what the chrysler rep said whenhe checked out my friends heads. Even gm people have had problems with theirs too,(big suprise) I know someone who had a crate gm with no rod bearings installed! now thats pretty bad. he's lucky he checked the motor internals out before installation. I realize others can be even more powerful than advertized, but the bottom line is double check anything big before installing because i dont think their warranties are not that good either.
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IntenseDak39
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7/14/2004
00:37:28
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as for the 380/360... i havent seen one dyno below 400 hp. I dont know about the others, though.
it would take a lot more than just switching the intake manifold. The cams used in those motors are not EFI friendly.
6.6 Lt. Big Block, 727 TF shift kit, 452 heads, edelbrock 750 cfm, .513/.513 284/300 crower cam, comp cams springs, comp cams pushrods, 1.5 roller rockers, dp intake, mopar ignition, mopar windage tray, dual exhaust w/ 40 series flowmasters, 4.10 gears, coilover drag suspension, approx, 3500 lbs
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vern
Dodge Dakota
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7/14/2004
08:44:20
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janesy-mp has a 402ci,435hp,4in bore and stroke,
.501/.513lift,288/292dur roller cam,
R/T 2.02/1.625 heads,plus m1 intake and more,
9.0:1 comp ratio,not recommended for factory mpi,
part#p5007647
this is in their 2002 cat
jag-this is the only direct replacement they show in the cat,
new/not rebuilt 360,swirl port cast heads
1.925/1.625 valves,stainless,
4.58/4.67 lift,260/264 dur roller cam
single plane m2 intake,cast alum valve covers,
part#p5007732
recommended for mpi,93-up
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janesy
Dodge Dakota
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7/14/2004
18:47:56
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vern, new for 2004 is a 406 MPI stroker shortblock, no cam included.
#P5007840, price has not yet been released
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gen1dak
Dodge Dakota
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7/14/2004
21:14:31
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Hey prple, I don't doubt anything these days the way stuff is out-sourced.
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Jag
Dodge Dakota
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7/14/2004
23:07:28
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mpi? ? ?
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Jared
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7/15/2004
04:00:45
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I have a buddy from school who put a 380 crate in his 94 or newer Ram, he was in a wreck shortly after getting it installed, so get it running was all he's been able to do, if he gets it back before end of the month, he'll be taking it to Ennis, TX(Texas Motorplex) for a street night on 7-30-04 to see what it runs when I take my R/T and another buddy takes his lightning.
I can find out what all he had to do to get it to work, and if its EFI or carb.
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Kowalski
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7/15/2004
15:09:40
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Jag - MPI = multi port injection. Early fuel injection was TBI, the more primative throttle body injection.
Lead, follow, or get out of the way
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janesy
Dodge Dakota
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7/15/2004
15:11:27
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yes! MPI!
NEW! STROKER MAGNUM MPI
406 SHORT BLOCK
For those looking for a short block that’s long on horsepower, the Mopar Stroker Magnum MPI 406 is the engine for you. With a 4.00", high-performance cast crankshaft and cast pistons, the 406 Magnum
is built around a remanufactured 360 Magnum block balanced to 360 specifications. This short block doesn’t include camshaft, timing set or timing gear. Order these parts separately to match
your engine application.
*P5007840 Stroker Magnum
MPI 406 Short Block
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Darren
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6/28/2006
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Anyone I have 1997 ram 1500 360 with supercharger fuelinjected wanting to try new 406 stroker have aluminum heads and such anyone with any success or experience,input etc.
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todd beltz
Dodge Dakota
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8/20/2008
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so yeah i got this magnuim rt motor for mopar it has so called 300 hp. when it runs it runs great tons of power but the problem is that the f@*# thing never runs right.it has blowen out 6 frost plugs all the same one. it smokes when ya start it and burns oil like a mother. i am very disapointed not only with the motor but with mopar and the run around they are giving me. it not their fault. like what ever. i am being hung out to dry. i would never buy another one again. in fact if they very come good for it i am asking for a plain jane 360. screw that sh@* it has been over 3 months so basically MY SUMMER IS SCREWED if anyone can help me please help
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MC
Dodge Dakota
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8/21/2008
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Not sure how mechanically inclined you are but I would try the head gaskets. Leaking exhaust could be pressurizing the inside of the block and popping out the freeze plug. The burning oil could be the wrong rings were used so do a compression test on the cylinders and once dry and once with a squirt of oil and compare. With the heads off inspect them for cracks in between the valves and also check your plenum gasket as this will explain the oil loss.
Mike
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WoW
Dodge Dakota
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8/21/2008
08:57:18
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I will search out a scrap yard 383, 400 or 440
b4 i ever get a mopar crate motor
good god!
and thanks to all for posting these
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