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Knobbyman
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11/08/2001
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I'm looking for a Aftermarket Rear Bumper something hopefully w/ Schackles & Reverse lights a reciever hitch would ROCK. Does anyone have any ideas as to who would carry them? I'd REALLY apriciate all the help I can get on this one.
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
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RESQready
GenIII
11/08/2001
19:05:38
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I'm checking with Hanson Enterprise, Inc. to see if a rear bumper is available for the Dakota. Their front bumpers are awesome, and they do make a rear bumper for Rams. I know what you're saying -- something with lights, a hitch, schackles, Hi-Lift jack points, etc... would be nice. I live about an hour north of Hanson's shop, so I'm trying to set up a time when I can visit and talk face to face.
http://www.hansonenterprise.com/dodge.htm
DJ
2000 QC 4x4 4.7
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Doc
Dodge Dakota
11/08/2001
20:49:13
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When you talk to Wayne Hanson tell him to return his freakin phone calls, ... particularly the one to a customer in Utah (me) that has called three times and left messages about wanting to purchase one of his front bumpers for a Dakota.
Doc.
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CadetDak
Dodge Dakota
11/09/2001
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I was up at wayne's shop over the summer and he said he is intending to make a rear bumper for the dakotas but right now is so swamped wih orders for the front bumpers that he just doesn't have time. I got one of his front bumpers for my truck. Best advice I can give you for getting ahold of him is to call between 10 and 11 or 1 and 3 california time during the week that's when he's in his office and someone usually will pick up. I lave the bumper but make sure you get some stronger springs for the front before you put it on as it weighs 190lbs with the winch on.
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RESQready
GenIII
11/09/2001
21:33:58
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I just spoke with Wayne at Hanson Enterprise. He was in the process of returning phone calls, so with any luck, Doc, you might get a call back.
As for a rear bumper, nothing available yet (CadetDak you're right on). Wayne hasn't had the chance to even begin design/engineering, and the process could take a while. After all the CAD work is complete, he would need to build a prototype (expensive) and program all the laser cutters and welders. Actually, the Dodge Ram rear bumper on his website is in the prototype stage and not yet available for sale.
BTW, if you're interested in the front bumper, lead time is about 4 weeks at best -- he just got an order for 20 bumpers the other day!!
So we're back to square one, Knobbyman. Anyone know who makes a rear bumper??
DJ
2000 QC 4x4 4.7
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Knobbyman
GenIII
11/10/2001
12:07:09
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I found a local shop around here in Dallas that is going to make a custom rear bumper for me I'm about to drive out there now so I'll let you guys know what they have to say.. OH!! by the way OEM rear bumpers for the Dakota.. For the Crome part ONLY is +$500 for a knock off that looks just like it but doesn't have a mopar stamp on the inside of the bumper where you can't see it costs ~$200. So if you guys need to get a new rear bumper think twice about Mopar parts.
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
http://www.knobbyman.com
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josh
Dodge Dakota
11/10/2001
15:44:04
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kobby you should know man that you get what pay for. so go the way i am. go Trail Ready! they will make it the way you want it.
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Knobbyman
GenIII
11/10/2001
16:01:10
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Trail Ready isn't making a rear bumper.. I'm having one custom designed out of 1/4" steel w/ schackles, reverse lights, and a reciever hitch. If someone had a bumper like that I'd order it right now. But no one does.. That's why I'm going the custom route.
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
http://www.knobbyman.com
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Doc
Dodge Dakota
11/10/2001
16:04:55
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Speaking of "get what you pay for". I called and obtained a price quote on a FRONT Dakota bumper from Factory Tubular Accessories, in Salt Lake City. You can see the bumper here:
http://members.networld.com/rogerd/dak.htm
Anyone want to take a guess what this bumper cost?
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$1600 for the bare bumper.
You would then have to pay more money to have it powder coated or chromed. PLUS, they need to keep your truck for a week to build the bumper. That means I have to load the Dakota on the auto transport trailer that I normally haul my Jeep with, and tow it 250 miles to Salt Lake City with my Ram 3500 4x4. Then a week later I have to make the 250 mile trip all over again to pick up the truck when they are done. Add the cost of diesel fuel for the Ram 3500, to the cost of a new set of driving lights to mount on the new bumper, to the cost of powder coating, ... and you have a bumper that easily cost $2500!
Yikes!
Doc.
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josh
Dodge Dakota
11/10/2001
18:43:11
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knobby i talked to a guy at trail ready and said custom projects could be done such as a rear dakota bumper.
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Knobbyman
GenIII
11/10/2001
23:08:56
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WHOO HOOO thanks josh.. I'll give um a call monday before I go to the other place.
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
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Knobbyman
GenIII
11/13/2001
08:49:21
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I contacted Trail Ready about the rear bumper. They are planning on making a rear bumper to match there front bumper. But neither will be out until some time in 2002. I asked how much it would be to have them start working on the rear bumper now. Total cost if I wanted a rear bumper from them ASAP would be somewhere around $2,000. Although I like them and all that's crazy talk. I went to a local 4x4 shop who does custom fabrication work and they quoted me from $300 for a rear bumper. That includes R&D and everything. So that's what I'm going to do. It's going to be made out of 1/4" C channel Steel the inside is going to be somewhat open the center part will be open where the ends are capped *to keep the mud out* there are going to be reverse lights, schackles, and a reciever hitch. The only other cost I have to worry about is the cost of painting it. That will have to be determined after the bumper is finished but I'm guessing it's going to be around $200 for a good color match job.
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
http://www.knobbyman.com
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RESQready
GenIII
11/21/2001
15:19:08
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Knobby,
How's the rear bumper project coming? I just got word that my Hanson (front) bumper is ready to be picked up, so now I'm in the market for something better on the other end.
DJ
2000 QC 4x4 4.7
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Knobbyman
GenIII
11/21/2001
19:14:14
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Well I'm not sure ;-) I have to call them on Friday to get the word on it. But it's going to be made out of 6" C channel with reverse lights about half way from the licance plate to the ends. I'm going to have the holes cut by the same lazer place that did the brackets .. but it's goign to be pricy :'( $150 just to cut the holes. Then something like $200 to spray the Rhino Liner on it. Not to mention the cost of fabing the actual bumper. ;-)
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
http://www.knobbyman.com
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phat4x4
Dodge Dakota
12/18/2001
18:14:35
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Ain't that a coincidence. I work at a sheet metal fab shop and am about to start building the same thing. It'll wrap around the sides a little for protection. It'll have flush mounted flood lights(if I can find some). Tow shackles. Tread plate on top. (Don't forget the hole for the spare tire thing) It'll be BEEFY too!! I'm thinking 11 guage steel with stanless inserts. All stainless hardware and brackets. Tell me what ya'll think. Maybe I'll have some pics if I ever get it done.
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Knobbyman
GenIII
12/19/2001
11:05:16
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Just finished mine. I have to coat it w/ Rhino Liner but I'll get some pictures of it before I do that. Unfortunatelly it's been to dark latelly to get any good pictures. I should take some tonight and post them. This bumper to give you a very basic idea looks like the jeep rock crawler bumpers. 2 shackles and a reciever hitch.
I'm still debaiting about the hole for the spare tire. I need to find out for a fact the 33's fit underneith before I drill the hole.
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
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J. C. Brandon
Dodge Dakota
12/19/2001
14:31:51
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Reunel makes a rear bumper for the Dakota that also mounts a hidden winch if you want one.
Their website isn't very good, but they will happily send you pictures and specs by mail. Call them at 1-800-338-2077.
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josh
Dodge Dakota
12/19/2001
22:04:39
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a local welding shop here in fayetteville, nc said they could build the prerunner bumpers that duffco builds for cheaper than duffco. rear for about $280 (not 350-400 like duffco) and the front for about $350 (not $750 like they told me at duffco). so anyone interested?
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Knobbyman
GenIII
12/19/2001
22:22:06
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I'm not going for the pre-runner look but if you decide to get the bumpers make sure and post pics because at that price it'd be hard to pass up.
Also .. I just like seeing the 4x4's all done up.
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
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josh
Dodge Dakota
12/19/2001
23:23:19
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sorry knobby i've got a lifted 2wd no 4x4 here(not yet at lease), but i knew what you ment though.
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RESQready
GenIII
12/20/2001
13:07:47
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Knobby, did you end up getting cut-outs for reverse lights? If so, what type of lights are you going to use? May I ask, what was the final cost for the bumper, and what will it cost to get Rhino sprayed on?
DJ
2000 QC 4x4 4.7
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Knobbyman
GenIII
12/23/2001
10:15:20
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Cost for the bumper... $90 for parts.. $300 for labor *gah labor SUCKS if you have the tools & time.. DO IT YOUR SELF!!*
Rhino will cost ~$200 I'm trying to find the roll on do it your self liner but I've been unsucessful so far. I think HomeDepo will be my next stop *today*. I have not cut the holes for the lights yet because I'm waiting to get the lights *x-mas gift* but they will be PIA reverse lights part # PIA4040 they will go towards the ends to the outside of the schackles. The hole that I'm going to cust is going to be basically 4 or 6 holes right next to eachother so I'll have my bumper acting like a screen to cover the light from rocks & other such objects. I've taken multiple shots of the bumper but the flash I have is to darn strong so I'm really needing to take one durring the day but I keep forgetting. Once I do get a picture it'll be on http://www.knobbyman.com
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
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http://www.knobbyman.com
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josh
Dodge Dakota
12/23/2001
13:51:04
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knobb is there a site so i can see the bumper or a bumper that looks something like what you got?
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Knobbyman
GenIII
12/23/2001
14:04:41
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My bumper will be posted probably by 5:00 pm today.. There really isn't one like what I have.. I created this one.
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
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http://www.knobbyman.com
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Knobbyman
GenIII
12/23/2001
18:05:34
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Pictures are posted go to my website and click on the pictures link.. www.knobbyman.com
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
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http://www.knobbyman.com
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Brent88
Dodge Dakota
12/23/2001
18:30:10
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Dude... that thing rocks!!
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2THEXTRM
GenIII
12/23/2001
19:20:45
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I like it, wow you don't need rear plates in Texas? j/k. Are you going to paint it to match truck? If I didn't have a body lift on my truck I would probably go for one like yours. I'll just use my hitch receiver with hook attachment, I think it is strong enough, haven't had to try it out yet. But winter just started so it's ready for some testing(on other stuck vehicles)!
Flowmaster stainless cat back, Air Raid CAD and homemade TB connect, Splitfire Plugs, 33x11.50-16's
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Knobbyman
GenIII
12/24/2001
08:41:41
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:-) Thanks Brent & 2THEXTRM :-)
Yea we do need to have the rear plate visable right now it's in the back window. I'm going to actually rhino line the whole thing but I can't find the do it your self stuff *herculiner* There are going to be 2 reverse lights just to the outside of those schackles and the licance plate will go just to the left of the reciever hitch.
I also thought of the body lift.. the way we made it all I have to do is drill 3 more holes in the brackets for the bumper and I'm good to go. We left them big enough so that I can lift everything with out any problems :-)
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
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http://www.knobbyman.com
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phat4x4
Dodge Dakota
12/24/2001
10:05:11
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If anybody still needs some ideas, check out
http://www.wayoffroad.com/custom_fabrication.htm
I'll probably be building a modified version of the one on the blue truck (not the Toy). Add some shackles and reverse lights and it might be a pretty awesome bumper.
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Knobbyman
GenIII
12/24/2001
10:09:20
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After further thought.... I might not add the lights. I'm now thinking about putting them on my roof rack... well looks like I have to finish the rack before I know what I'll do. OK out to the truck to measure. See you guys later.
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
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http://www.knobbyman.com
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2THEXTRM
GenIII
12/24/2001
10:28:20
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Yeah, put the back up lights on your rack, it will look better IMO and they will be up higher for better illumination and adjustment. Rhino liner should look pretty cool after seeing Dan's Dak done up with the stuff, maybe do the fender flares and front bumper chrome to match? Knobby, you think the bumper with raised brackets for body lift would be strong enough? When you do your lift, I'd like to hear how it worked out for ya.
Flowmaster stainless cat back, Air Raid CAD and homemade TB connect, Splitfire Plugs, 33x11.50-16's
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Knobbyman
GenIII
12/24/2001
10:52:12
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Yep should be fine.. because the way it's all positioned I'll be using the same piece of steel just new holes in it a few inches lower. The angle that the schacles will be pulled upon is going to be the same. Only differance is instead of drilling the holes in the top half of the bracket I'll be drilling them in the bottom half of it. *bracket is 6 1/2" tall.
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
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http://www.knobbyman.com
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2THEXTRM
GenIII
12/24/2001
10:57:18
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"I see", said the blind man. Looks like a springtime project for me then:)
Flowmaster stainless cat back, Air Raid CAD and homemade TB connect, Splitfire Plugs, 33x11.50-16's
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josh
Dodge Dakota
12/24/2001
20:25:45
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knobb if you paid $390 no offenced man, but you got RIPPPED THE F*CK OFF!! i'm getting the rear bumper just like the one from Duffco from under $300 (parts, labor, & painted). i'm not making fun of you man. i'm saying you might want to look around for another welding shop next time. i showed your bumper to the guy that's going to do mine and he said he could have done it for around $100-150(parts, labor, & paint). like i said you might to look around next time. i'm not trying to make you feel bad, it's just i hate seeing people getting ripped off. best of luck to you next time.
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Knobbyman
GenIII
12/27/2001
08:39:39
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Josh.. I really don't care about the cost.. Insurance paid for it :-)
Yes it was way to expensive if that guy says he can do it for 150.... have @ it. The parts alone cost $90 and I was @ the shop for at least 2 hours while he was working on it. It will take about 6 hours to do. Depending on the tools you have you might be able to do it faster.
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
http://www.knobbyman.com
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Knobbyman
GenIII
12/27/2001
08:41:50
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Josh.. I really don't care about the cost.. Insurance paid for it :-)
Yes it was way to expensive if that guy says he can do it for 150.... have @ it. The parts alone cost $90 and I was @ the shop for at least 2 hours while he was working on it. It will take about 6 hours to do. Depending on the tools you have you might be able to do it faster.
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
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http://www.knobbyman.com
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RESQready
GenIII
12/27/2001
11:13:17
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$390 is not outlandish. Remember, this was a CUSTOM bumper. Unless a welding shop has already built one just like it, design time and fabrication will usually run a day (8 hrs) minimum @ $25-$50 per hour. Shops like Duffco, Trail Ready, and Hanson Ent. have the R&D all worked out, pre-cut material on hand, and a crew of welders. Cost it pretty minimal because fab time may only take a couple of hours. Ask those guys how much their first prototype cost, and I bet you it's in the thousands of $$$ -- even for the simple stuff.
DJ
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Knobbyman
GenIII
12/27/2001
14:26:28
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Thanks for the back up RES.
By the way Trail Ready did say that they could do a rear bumper for me.. and I'll quote the price $1,300 for the REAR! I'm sure it would be a AWSOME bumper but I think I'll take mine for 400 thank you. + I didn't have to send mine UPS LOL I can just imagine the price of that.
Well see you guys later.
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
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http://www.knobbyman.com
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josh
Dodge Dakota
12/27/2001
16:58:04
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i use to work in a welding shop, and i know how much they pay for parts and charge for labor. i mean hell i use to get payed $48.73 an hour, so your not telling my anything new. if the shop has a pipe bender, notcher, and a plasma cutter time would be cut down in half. so before you start ragging on me please take that in consideration. the main thing that i was trying to do was just to let knobby know he was ripped off. i wasn't trying to start a arguement or anything. i was just trying look out for a fellow dak owner. best of luck knobby
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phat4x4
Dodge Dakota
12/27/2001
19:02:12
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Hey Knobby, what size shackles did you use? I've been checking hardware stores and they've got HUGE and tiny. Also, how did they mount them to the bumper?
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