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Rive
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3/10/2001
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Can someone give me the specs around this year model. i saw a 1990 dodge dakota 4x4 and liked the body stlye. its the best body style ive seen in a truck. when did this body style start and when did it end? what year for 4x4s are the best. im looking to spend under 5k. thanks
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greg
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3/11/2001
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the gen.1 dakota was made from 87-90 im pretty sure, the 87 was crbeurated and 88-i think 91 are TBI, the only available engine for this era of 4x4 dakotas is the 3.9 v6
Greg Howell
89 dakota sport 4x4
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Rive
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3/11/2001
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i just found out that the magnum didnt come till 92 which boosted hp from 120 to 185 i think
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87Dakota
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3/12/2001
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I have an 87 Dakota, and it is carbureted, and the 88's switched to fuel inj. Personally I think the 3.9L don't have much power, so I would try to get on with the magnum if I were you.
1987 Dakota 3.9L, 3 speed, 220,000 miles
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greg
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3/13/2001
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your right the 3.9 tbi is a terd, i wonder how hard it would be to put a magnum 3.9 in a gen.1?
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larkinja
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3/16/2001
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I have a 1989 4x4 Sport. The truck is great other than the 3.9 tbi. I have driven 4 cyl. with more power. But it is still a great truck. I am contemplating a 318 swap right now. Still trying to find info though. Not sure how hard it will be.
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doug
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11/22/2001
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i have a 1990 dodge dakota sport that came stock with a 3.9 TBI v-6 i just finished doing a v-8 swap with a 318 anybody wants any info email me with questions at doug89803@aol.com
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jason
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11/25/2001
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i have a 1990 dakota 3.9L 4x4 with a 2in body lift i was wandering where i could find a suspension lift for it?
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TigerDak
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11/26/2001
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There was a 2.5L engine available also for that year, and yes, a 5.2L V8 Shelby Dakota.
I own a 3.9L engine, and with some bolt on mods, it runs real strong. The stock hp rating is only 125. I havent been able to get a dyno test yet, and I'm hoping its around the 200 mark.
I've lifted my truck from 6" of clearance to about 10.5" of clearance from cranking the torsion bars and adding 31" tires.
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Joe E.
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11/27/2001
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TigerDak, what mods are you running? How are you about 200HP. I am thinking with all my mods I am around 175Hp. But I have nothing factual to base it on. Thanks for your help.
Joe E.
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TigerDak
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11/27/2001
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That was simply a number I'm hoping for! But we'll see. I probably where you are, which is fine. Any improvement over 125 hp is welcome!!!
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dakota man
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4/16/2003
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ok peeps listen up i have had about 30 gen 1 dakotas as far as the shelby goes no dakota saw a v8 untill 1992 the magnum motor was the only one in a dakota from the factory the shelby had a 2.2 turbo much like in the daytona and shelby charger but dont be fooled the motor is different they are not interchangeable right now i own a 90 4x4 and a 87 short bed that now has a 413 small block and n.o.s. when last run it coverd a 1/4 in 10.03 a clue to the guys that want to follow me with the motor swap i will tell you this for a good set of headers through hooker not the short p.o.s but good full lenght headers is part # 5803 and last time i bought some were $800 so take a firm grip the easyest way to mount the motor is with a truck that had a v6 and to use a magnum v8 block it bolts right up the v6 and v8 share the same motor mount for the guys that have the 4 cyl trucks have fun cuz you got some fab work to do on the 4x4 guys that want a v8 in it you will never find headers that are full lenght for them unless you have them made when i had mine made i wrote a check for $1200. As far as my 4x4 its all stock but soon to have a 6 inch lift and 3 inches of body for the guy lookin for a lift trail master is the only one to make a lift for thoes trucks however for the 87 to 90 frame its only an inch and a half lift for $1800 kinda sucks i am makein my own lift its a pain but has to be done my 4x4 will also have a 440 big block for anyone out there that wants to do this i will ask you not to i would not put my worst enemy through this much headache for anyone that has the gen 2 dakota and cant find nice wheels for it ( hint ) the spindels are the same for 87-96 now the rotors and cal. are diff on the ass you have to change axle and drums to make it a gen 1 5 lug for the 3.9 v6 guys to make the motor run alot better you might try this use a tbi off a 318 or 360 the port in the 3.9 tbi is to small and chokes the motor then after that get an exaust that actualy flows that way you dont have a constipated noise maker remember a motor can only breate in what it can crap out. as far as h.p in a 3.9 you'll never see alot of it all a 3.9 is ..... its a 318 with the front 2 cyl cut off it the heads wont allow it to breate well enough to make big h.p however you can build it like a 318 and make a torque monster out of it with the small chamber in the heads and the small port the heads have more vilocity then a big block head just not as much volume if you find someone that knows how to port well tell you want at least 80% volume effishant( cant remember how to spell it )if they know how to port they will find you a good cam to go with the heads also have them mill .020 of the heads and intake that will bump compression upto about 9.75 to 1 on pre mag and about 10.14 to 1 on the mag for the magnum guys make sure that your plentum is polished like a mirror inside also for the magnum guys make sure you dont get to big of a cam cuz of the computer it wont pick up vac. and make it run poor untill about 2600 rmp well i hope this all helps you and if you have questions or need parts if i dont have them i know where to get them for any dakota or darango or full size get back with me at frabalate@hotmail.com
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Joe E.
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4/17/2003
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Hey there. You say the Gen I and IIs have the same spindle? I have a 2wd and want more lift. I have a 3in trailmaster body and a 2in rough country susp.
Also I am intrested in your opinion on 318 swaps in for my 3.9L? What tranny do you like? A beefed up A500? Something with overdrive...
Sounds like you have alot of info on these trucks. Later
Joe E.
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SuperBee
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4/17/2003
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dakota man stop blowing smoke at us
the Shelby had a 318 in it, NOT a 2.2 turbo
the first year to see a v08 besides the shelby was the 91 and was NON magnum
please get your info right
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Super Bee
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4/17/2003
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and dude, that was THE MOST ANPOYING POST EVER to rea, no puctuation, no line breaks, GAWD MY EYES HURT
im confused as hell cuz you need to seperate your thoughts
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Super Bee
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but i am very interested in the v-8 swap into my 1990 sport 4x4
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dakota man
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4/17/2003
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Ok to Joe e an a 500 is the overdrive trans which is just a 904 with an adapt to over drive, the 518 is the same as a 727. I guess it kinda goes along with what you want to do, if your worried about gas then stick with the overdrive it will do ya fine,if your not the 727 is a stronger trans but also heavy and takes more horse to run it. 904 takes 35 h.p to run it a 727 takes almost 70 h.p. Same applys for the 500 and 518 really all they did was change the tailshaft and valve body. If you check at your local drag race you'll find that the guys are no longer runnin the 727 as much cuz of weight and h.p it takes from the car or truck. The 904 can be just as strong as the 727 with the right parts in it my advice to you would be that if your gonna keep in on the street i would keep the 500 in it if your building a mud runner only go with the 727 they never made a 904 for a 4x4, however you can get the parts to make one out of jw trans for the right $$$$. On the motor why go with a 318 when a 340 or 360 will give you more power and it bolts in just the same,the only problems you will find will be with the 360 a truck pan is not at every corner but you can find them ,for the 4x4 guys you have to alter the pan a little to get it passed the front axle. You'll have to cut the sump back about 3 inches and you'll be fine. As far as super bee I have owned 3 shelby dakotas all 3 had a 2.2 turbo in it not a 318, if you have a shelby dakota or know someone who has one that came from the factory with a 318 I WANT IT cuz its gonna be a rare. That was Carol Shelbys gig with all the mopars, when mopar told him to build something to compeat with the mustang and camaro he told them to give him an omni and he did it in 83 a 4 cyl to keep up with the v8 later in 84 was the turbo introduced to the 2.2, then in late 86 the gen 2 turbo came out in the daytonas only and later in 87 on the shelby chargers and glhs omni, when he built the dakota all he did was adapt the turbo to the 2.2 truck motor which shares the same head as the car motor,the crank and block are different cuz of one being fwd and one rwd everything else is interchangeable. As far as your 318 in a 91 I have to correct myself 91 did come with a pre magnum they were late in the year but you could get them so i am sorry for that miss informity.My friend also wants me to put a little hook in here about his biz for custom powder coating. You can check out his web site at www.lxcustom.20m.com they do very very nice work and pretty cheap. They can do a whole car or truck if you want and they can get any color you can get in paint and then some. They do have a color green that does infact glow in the dark, I didnt belive it till I saw it,you should see one of the race cars they did the frame in with it. It looks alive at night kinda kool as well as candy colors flip flop colors and what not. Oh and as far as jackin up a 2wd i'm lost i have never jacked up a 2wd only lowerd, air baged and hydro. on the 2wd's. Talk to you later yall .
p.s. hope you like my puctuation as you spell it super bee
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other bill
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4/17/2003
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The Shelby Dakota was optional with a V-8. See the below site.......and D Man, Super Bee is right, your posts are very hard to decipher without any punctuation.
" with the 360 a truck pan is not at every corner but you can find them " Huh?
http://www.xmission.com/~dempsey/shelby/sheldod8.htm
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dakota man
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4/18/2003
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when i say they are not at every corner,I mean they are not that easy to find. a 318 and 340 oil pan are commin, well 318 anyways but a 340 oil pan is the same, now a 360 oil pan is diff. The main bearings on a 360 are bigger thus for the pan openings at eather end are bigger as well. 360 is a commin motor but not so much in the trucks for some odd reason most trucks are a 318. But if you look hard enough you will find them. On the shelby dakota i stand corrected but like i said out of the 3 i have owed they were 2.2 with a turbo
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Joe E.
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4/18/2003
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Never heard of a 2.2 turbo as a fact. heard rumors tho. Did they run??? Must have to lable it with the shelby name.
Joe E.
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dakota man
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4/18/2003
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yea joe they would pin your ears back pretty good till about 5500 rmp, then they would fall right on their nose. 2 of the 3 I had were sticks and one auto, the auto was a turd. The truck just wouldnt even get out of its own way.
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Walt Felix
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4/18/2003
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Those who know me from this and several other Dakota boards and lists know that I’m not one for flaming other users but I have to comment in on this topic.
dakota man , “Pull your pants up and stop talking out your Ass!”
In 1989 the engine options were:
2.5 Liter (151 cid) L4 w/TBI same as 2.2 except longer stroke
3.9 Liter (239 cid) V6 w/TBI
5.2 Liter (318 cid) V8 w/TBI “in the Shelby package only”
There has never been a turbo Dakota available from the factory in the US, however, I won’t say there has never been a Turbo Dakota. There is 4cyl. Turbo Diesel available in South America, Argentina to be exact.
In 1989, in a partnership with Dodge, Carroll Shelby’s company took 1500; 3.9/automatic 2WD Dodge Dakotas, removed the factory installed 3.9V6 and replaced them with a 5.2V8 TBI, rated at 175 hp. Typical horsepower ratings for the 318 in 1989 was 170 hp; the Shelby Dakota picked up 5 hp by using an electric cooling fan instead of the standard belt driven fan because of engine bay space limitations. The only other modification was a dual snorkel air cleaner that pulled fresh air through the grill. Other than that the 5.2 was a stock Chrysler crate motor. I even recall seeing a few of the 3.9V6 engines that were removed on eBay a year or two ago when Shelby was clearing out some old stock from his warehouse space. Of the 1500 Shelby Dakotas built they were all 5.2/Automatics. I’ve never heard of a Shelby Dakota with a 2.2 turbo or a stick.
In 1989, Shelby did make a 2.2 Turbo IV VNT (variable nozzle turbo) motor. It made the same 174hp as the Turbo II, but the VNT technology decreased turbo spool-up time and eliminated "turbo lag." It never made it to a Dakota and Chrysler didn’t use it in a production vehicle until 1990. I believe it was available in the Spirit R/T and Talon Tsi though I’m not 100% sure.
Since all Shelby Dakotas came with a numbered signature plaques applied to the dash, what numbers were the 3 you “had”. I may have bought your story if you claimed to have owned one. You could have found a prototype / test mule though highly unlikely. Since the very early 70’s, Dodge has made it a practice not to sell prototypes. Most are destroyed with a very few special ones being either warehoused away or put in the Walter P Chrysler Museum. Since Shelby was actually outside of Chrysler, with his own company working in partnership with Dodge, there could be a chance one was released to the public, though again highly unlikely. But to claim to have had not “1” but “3”, I just don’t believe it! With odds like that, you should be playing the lottery if it’s true.
Walt Felix
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