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Blizzard
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8/29/2001
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And, HELL YEAH, you can go offroading with your truck the way she sets, Viper!!!! Just pull the lever back and get off the pavement!! ;o)
You've already got bigger meats than me!!
'01 QC 4x4
5.9L, 3.92 LSD, loaded
www.geocities.com/blizzzzard69
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Hawkeye
*GenIII*
8/29/2001
09:02:39
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I am SURE you can come up with a shaker spacer Blizz. Cant be that hard can it? Didnt we talk about that one time? That would be so cool to be the only lifted Shaker Dak for miles.
Yeah Viper, its just dirt... and rocks, and mud, and gunk. It washes off.... Well.. most of it anyway!! :-)
'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
33x12.50 Pro Comp X-T's
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Viper
Gen III
8/29/2001
09:59:54
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I never said I wouldnt take it off road,and your right it does wash off but its kinda hard to go off road when you dont have the time to but I have the ablity to go off road and thats what counts. Dont worry little does she know it WILL BE LIFTED BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!I just spent 1000 dollars on tire and rims for her mustang then damit I can get rims and a lift.HEHEHEHE!!!!!!!!!! THE MIGHTY QUADZILLA WILL DESTROY THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!!
2000 Quad,4x4,32x1150s,3.92,4.7 Intense Blue
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Blizzard
Gen III
8/29/2001
10:46:26
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LOL @ Viper! Fair is fair!
Hey Hawk -- how thick was the Poweraid TB spacer you had? I know I won't see perf gains from it, but if it gets the shaker up where it needs to be it will help me out!
I talked with Proglass this morning about my situation and they said they've made taller boxes for Rams with body lifts in the past, but they're busy getting two SEMA trucks ready right now and won't be able to fabricate anything for me real quick. I've gotta see what is available in my area as far as custom fabricators go and see what I can come up with.
On the plus side though, if I DO make the shaker box bigger I'll be able to run a 14x3, 14x4, or 14x? size filter. MORE AIR. Ok ok ok ... getting offtrack again. Trying to come up with a "positive" out of this deal! hehehe
See ya
'01 QC 4x4
5.9L, 3.92 LSD, loaded
www.geocities.com/blizzzzard69
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Hawkeye
*GenIII*
8/29/2001
11:31:21
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The spacer was only about an inch thick. If you have any underhod pics of how the filter and shaker all fit on the tb I might be able to come up with an idea that you might could get someone to make for you. I'd have to see how its all set up as I've never looked at one up close like that. Their is a way, just have to figure it out. If nothing else ask Proglass how they do it for the rams and then maybe work off that idea.
'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
33x12.50 Pro Comp X-T's
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Blizzard
Gen III
8/29/2001
12:04:03
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Yeah, I did ask them about the ram setup. They made the shaker box taller. Said they never heard that it caused any problems. Now I just gotta figure out how to make my box taller. Cut it in two and bolt in some sheet metal or something? Prolly look pretty hacked up. Gotta come up with somethin. Or just put the body lift in the corner until Proglass gets some time to make me something up.
'01 QC 4x4
5.9L, 3.92 LSD, loaded
www.geocities.com/blizzzzard69
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BlueTwister
Dakota Enthusiast
8/29/2001
15:43:50
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Well you guys can add to that list,soon I will have a 3" body along with my 32's for now.Will get 33's when I need them.This is going to be great I will be the only lifted Dak in southern Ohio.Heck,maybe in the whole state!!hehehehe. Just one question,will the 32's look alright until I get 33's or should I go ahead and get 33's??? Just don't want to look stupid in my "little blue Dak"hehehehe
99RC4x4/5.2L MasterCraft Coursers MT 32x11.50s
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Dakota
Dodge Dakota
8/29/2001
16:32:35
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Im still running my 31's with the 3" Body Lift.
Doesnt look bad...but certainly not the best either.
http://dakota3.4mg.com/images/Shows/MgtyMopar8.26.01/Img_1896.jpg for a photo from this past weekend.
-Dakota
Http://dakota2.4mg.com
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VIPER
Gen III
8/30/2001
06:32:20
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IT IS THE DAWNING OF A NEW ERA,THE REBEL ALLIANCE HAS WON,THE EMPIRE IS IN RUINS.YOUNG SKYWALKER HAS BECOME A JEDI WARRIOR,AND AS HE GET OUT OF HIS X-WING HE TAKE ONE LAST LOOK AROUND,HE THINKS OF HIS FREIND HAN SOLO AND OF R2D2,AND HOW THEY HAVE JUST DEFEATED THE EMPIRE.BUT ONLY ONE THING IS GOING THRU YOUNG LUKES MIND,ONE THING THAT JUST KEEPS BUILDING,AND EATING AT HIM,AND FINALLY LUKE CAN TAKE IT NO MORE AND SCREAMS..."C3P0 WHERE IN THE HELL DID YOU PARK MY DAKOTA!!!!!!"
"NEVER UNDER ESTIMATE THE POWER OF THE DAKOTA"
2000 Quad,4x4,32x1150s,3.92,4.7 Intense Blue
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Hawkeye
*GenIII*
8/30/2001
09:35:08
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I have noticed one little thing. When turning in either direction, the front outside edge of my tires rub just a little on the very bottom tip of the plastic on the bumper where it mates with the plastic fenderwell liner. Trimmed off about 1/8 of an inch and it looks like it needs about another 1/8. About a 1/4 inch total. You cant even tell its been trimmed by looking at it. Just thought everyone might want to know this. I have seen on some other Gen III Daks where 33x12.50's and they rubbed on the frame at full lock when turning. Mine has plenty of room on the inside by the frame. This is the only rubbing I have with them. I think it all comes down the the rims you choose and what the offset and backspacing is. Again mine is VERY minor and not enough to even damage anything, you can just hear it a little when it does it. Little clean trimming with a razor or sharp knife and your good to go.
'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
33x12.50 Pro Comp X-T's
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Hawkeye
*GenIII*
8/30/2001
09:42:12
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Twister, with your tires on 8 inch wide rims you will look fine.
Dakota, great looking shot of yours. Definitely need to get some 32's or 33's under there though. :-)
Viper, your making me want to install turbo lasers in place of my fog lamps.
'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
33x12.50 Pro Comp X-T's
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MikeC
Dodge Dakota
8/31/2001
12:21:15
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Hawkeye,
I noticed you picked up some 15X7 rims for your trucks new shoes. I am interested in putting on BFG Mud Terrains and noticed a couple things.
My stock rims are 16X8 and the only BFG Mudders they have are LT285/75R16 (33 X 11.8 on 8" rim)
They also have 33X12.50R15LT/C which are a little wider and what I wanted. Thing is they fit on a rim 8.5 to 11 inches.
My question is, do you think a 15" rim that wide with that size tire will rub even with the 3" body I will be putting on next week? Maybe I should just stay with the 16's and forget the wider tires?
TIA,
MikeC
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Robert
Dodge Dakota
8/31/2001
15:38:43
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Seems to be common practice around here... but I don't feel real comfortable putting tires on wheels that are narrower than the tire manufacturer recommends. I want to go to the 33x12.50x15 route someday... but I don't want to put them on my 15x8 wheels.
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MikeC
Dodge Dakota
8/31/2001
15:52:03
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Yeah, me either. So if you want the wider tires, you need the rims, say 15X10's. The thing is, I guess you have to research things like backspacing(?) and which way they will stick out(?). I don't mind if the tire sticks out a bit past the flares - might have a reaaalll nice look actually.
As you can tell, I ain't no expert. Just trying to do some homework.
MikeC
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Hawkeye
*GenIII*
8/31/2001
17:58:58
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I have been running 33x12.50's on 15x8 rims for 11 years. I always air down at the beach. Usually around 12 to 15 PSI. I have never had a problem. The only way you will pop a bead or have any trouble is if you go below about 15 psi and run really fast and hit big bumps full tilt or start doing crazy donuts. If you go with 15x10 rims you will need more than 3 inches of lift. I had 285x75x16 BFG MT's on my F150. They are fine on 16x8 rims. Thats what I had them on. You will have no problems with them on 8 inch wide rims at all.
I went to the beach today. Gave the tires a good workout. Noticed a few things.
I really need gears. The 3.55's are ok in everything but sugar sand. The Dak is heavy but not quite heavy enough to keep the rear axle from hopping really bad in the sand. The 4.7 just makes so much torque there isnt enough weight to absorb it. Thus the need for the 3.90 (or 4.10's if they ever comeout) gears. I also think that the Roadmaster active susp will be a big help. Have heard from quite a few people that it really helps with the axle hop. 1 last factor is that I didnt air down any. Didnt have time to air back up so I just left them at 35 psi. No doubt that the lower pressure will help. This was all in 2wd. 4wd high and low both worked great. These tires do really well off road. I noticed that they didnt try and dig themselves really deep into the sand like your average mud tire. They wanted to stay on top and if you really gave it some gas, they almost seemed like paddle tires and moved you through stuff fairly well. They also clean themselves extremely well. In damp soft dirt they dont pack up at all. Over all a good success. Just have to do a few minor things to fine tune the whole setup. For those of you who are lucky enough to already have the 3.92 gears you are in good shape.
'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
33x12.50 Pro Comp X-T's
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Knobbyman
Dodge Dakota
9/03/2001
13:36:52
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While were on the topic of bigger tires... what are the biggest tires you can fit on 16x8's and what kind of lift would u have to do to fit those under your truck? '01 QuadCab 4x4
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Hawkeye
*GenIII*
9/03/2001
15:03:57
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I wouldnt go bigger than a 305x75x16 on a 16x8. It is basically a 33x12.50. You would at least need a 3 inch lift. You could fit 285x72x16's on the 16x8's and a 3 inch lift with no problem. I am starting to have trouble with my 33's and my lift. The lift is fine but the tires are rubbing at the point mentioned earlier. I thought I had it taken care of but after some good off roading today, It is catching pretty good now. I have trimmed some on the plastic but it seems the more I trim, it just keeps rubbing. I am thinking I may put my 32's on these new wider rims, sell the 33's to buy some new gears (3.90's), and then put 33's back on when I can figure out what to do about where its rubbing. This is very disappointing but because it was all working out nicely. It will still look good (and perform good) with the 32's on the new 15x8 rims. Will look at 1 more thing on the bumper and then decide.
I just spent 20 minutes outside (since I typed the above) messing with this thing. Now I cant get it to rub. Maxed out the front susp, turned the tires both directions, everything. Had a good 1/4 inch clearance where it has been rubbing. I had 5 people including myself in the truck earlier. Dont know if that made a differance or not. I may go ahead and go back to the 32 BFG's on these new rims anyway and go ahead and get my gears as mentioned earlier. Then get new BFG 33's in a few months. I really like these X-Terrains as an off road tire but they are not that much better than BFG's are. The BFG's ride better on the road and are almost as good off road so for a daily driver I think they are the way to go. The X-Terrains are the way to go for a truck that mostly is off road.
Sorry for making so many post's and for them being so long all the time. Just wanted to throw out as much info for everyone as I can.
'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
33x12.50 Pro Comp X-T's
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Knobbyman
Dodge Dakota
9/03/2001
15:49:09
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THANKS!!
I've been debating on the tires as well.. that made up my mind. Unless you figure out what the rubbing was by the time I can afford the lift, tires, wheels & nerf bars. I guess 32 BFG's are enough for Texas stuff anyway. What kind of mud/sand/rocks do you mess w/ anyway? I'm trying to get into this and am having "issues" finding clubs & places to go..
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BlueTwister
GenIII
9/03/2001
18:28:05
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Sorry to hear that Hawk! Maybe the extra weight and the off roading made them rub more than they would in a regular situation.When I lift mine the 32's will stay on there longer until I decide on 33's.Where I getting at is if I do go 33's then my rubbing will probably be very minor at best because I really don't do much off-roading at all.I do go with my buddys sometime but it is nothing major just some holes filled with mud and maybe a little climbing here and there.All I now is,I can't wait to lift mine regardless of tires sizes because they both will look very good anyways.I hope everything works out for ya!!
1999 RC 4x4 / 318cid / MasterCraft 32x11.50s
15x8 Optima Alloys/ Pioneer Sound System
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Blizzard
Gen III
9/03/2001
23:00:03
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All I can say is that I'm really disappointed with the Dakota setup if a 3" body lift won't clear 33" tires. I thought for SURE they would work. I think I'll bite the bullet and just have the tire shop order in a set of 32" BFG's too, just in case ...
But ... I'll still try the 33's and HOPE for the best! ;o)
What really makes me curious, Hawk, is why they acted up at the beach but not in your front yard? Think (like Twister said) the xtra weight of a few passengers was all it took to make it act up??
'01 QC 4x4
5.9L, 3.92 LSD, loaded
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Doch80
Dodge Dakota
9/03/2001
23:42:15
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I have 32" tires on my 99' 5.2 4x4 with stock 8x10 rims. At first I thought they were rubbing on the fender, but I found out they rub on the frame at the front of the tire on the inside. When turned to the right all the way, the left tire rubs ect... no big deal though. It's been about 15,000 and the tires and everything are just fine.
Doch80
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Hawkeye
*GenIII*
9/04/2001
11:14:54
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I guess so Blizz because they didnt do it at all today on the way in to work. Doch, the fact 15x8's backspacing causes them to rub on the frame, I was running my 32's on the fact 15x7's with no problems. I dont know what to do. I need you guys help. I have come up with 3 options.
1. Keep the current pro comps on and hope they wear out soon and then replace them with BFG's, in the mean time, keep working on the bumper, sell my 32's and put the money towards my gears.
2. Put my 32's on the new rims, sell the pro comps, use that money towards the gears, work on the bumper and then get 33 BFG's after the 32's wear down.
3. Just get new 33 BFG,s, sell the pro comps and the 32's to pay for the new BFG's and use the leftover money towards gears.
As you most know, tire sizes differ between companys. One companys 33x12.50 can be a different size than anothers. I was comparing 33 BFG MT's and AT's and the AT's are actually a bit narrower than the MT's for example. I am wondering if the pro comps might be a bit wider than normal for a 33x12.50. I have a couple of opinions on my choices so far. What do you guys think?
'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
33x12.50 Pro Comp X-T's
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Knobbyman
Dodge Dakota
9/04/2001
11:30:51
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Well if it was up to me.. I'd call those 5 people & go back to the beach.. when the tires rub get out and find out where they are rubbing ;-) then when u know what the problem is decide if 33" BFG's would or wouldn't have the same problem. Also you might find out it's something simple.. But that's what I'd try
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Hawkeye
*GenIII*
9/04/2001
14:24:53
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I know where its rubbing at on the bumper. Have gotten out and watched it. Have trimmed the plastic. I trim some more, it rubs some more. I dont want to hack up the bumper much more than I already have. I am going to measure the tread width on the Pro comps tonight and get a tread width measurement on some BFG AT's as well as MT's and compare. Still want everyones ideas though. Thanks for the input Knobby.
'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
33x12.50 Pro Comp X-T's
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Knobbyman
Dodge Dakota
9/04/2001
14:39:54
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Good luck with the 33's I really hope that they work out b/c everyone knows that your truck will ROCK if you can figure that out. *To bad the pictures aren't up yet* ;-)
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BlueTwister
GenIII
9/04/2001
14:41:50
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Well Hawk if it was me just try the 32's on there for a while and if you like them just wait until they wear.Now for some reason you put the 32's on and you don't like them go with the BFG's unless you find a way to get the Pro Comps from rubbing.Of course if you find the Pro Comps to be wider than the BFG's go with them and then see how they do.The gears can wait in my opinion because you said your truck does ok with the 3.55's.The most important thing is to try to get the rubbing to stop and if your not succesful then worry about your 32's.It's still up to you just trying to help!!!
1999 RC 4x4 / 318cid / MasterCraft 32x11.50s
15x8 Optima Alloys/ Pioneer Sound System
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DIRTDEMON
Gen III
9/04/2001
14:58:04
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What about adjusting the front torsion bars 1" and for the rear you can use a 1" block lift or 1" shackles lift for the rear.
Those 33 sound to sweet to give up.....
00 CC, 4X4 SPORT, 4.7, 3.55 LSD, GIBSON EXHAUST, K& N
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Hawkeye
*GenIII*
9/04/2001
15:44:04
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Twister, thanks. Its all appreciated.
DirtDemon, I have thought of that but I have already raised my torsion bars some becasue they were not set right from the factory. I am afraid of raising them too much because I dont want the totally kill the ride quality and also am afraid of causing them to wear out prematurely or over stressing any other parts. I also havent been able to find any 1 inch blocks here anyway. Everything is 2 or more.
'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
33x12.50 Pro Comp X-T's
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DACOADA
Dodge Dakota
9/04/2001
16:06:28
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hawk, if you ever need the 1" blocks, let me know, im going to put a 1" block in the rear of my dakota. the front is about 1/2" taller than the rear. i like for the rear to be a little taller. they are 29.99. not including the u bolts and other hardware. just the blocks.
i got them from salem offroad center, salem, oregon.
corey
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Hawkeye
*GenIII*
9/04/2001
16:25:42
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Thanks Corey. Is than price for two of them or just one? Also, How much are the longer ubolts if they sell them?
'00 QC 4x4
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33x12.50 Pro Comp X-T's
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DACOADA
Dodge Dakota
9/04/2001
16:36:33
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the price is for both blocks. the u bolt kit is 24.00. (12 each). as soon as i decide on the body lift, i will put the blocks on. should only take about an hour. i did add a leafs on my old cj-7 and it only took about 2 1/2 hours, and that was because i had to take apart the spring packs. blocks = much easier.
thanks,
corey
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Hawkeye
*GenIII*
9/04/2001
19:39:39
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I might have this figured out. The Pro Comps may be staying for now. The ride home today was very good. The trimming I did yesterday may have done it. No rubbing again on the way home from work. Will post more details tomorrow.
If you want to see where the tires are rubbing at, go to the link of the pictures thread and look for the pic of the tire. I will have it labeled.
'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
33x12.50 Pro Comp X-T's
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Hawkeye
*GenIII*
9/04/2001
19:53:24
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Its the Tire 3 pic under the pre lift album.
'00 QC 4x4
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Blizzard
Gen III
9/04/2001
20:51:27
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Hey Hawk,
Did it ever rub on the way to/from work? I thought it was only rubbing with the added weight of xtra passengers?
'01 QC 4x4
5.9L, 3.92 LSD, loaded
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Hawkeye
*GenIII*
9/05/2001
10:38:05
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They did a little. Only when in mid turn and right at that one little spot. Mainly like in parking lots etc. I think I have it fixed now. Going to do some cleanup work with the dremel one evening. Also noticed that the bumper had a veryvery slight cant to it. Going to see if I can adjust it just a little. Tires have actually started doing much better. I think they may have just needed to be "broke in" a little. They ar staying on for now. If I can get things any better than they are, i.e. adjust the bumper a little, etc., I will let everyone know. Only advice I can give at this point is a lot of tire fitment issues with this lift are going to depend on the backspacing and offset of the rims you choose. Just make sure that once you have the lift on, you get your tire shop to test fit a 33 on the front for you. If it will take more trimming than you are comfortable with then go with a 32. 32x11.50's on 15x8 rims will still look and perform very good.
'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
33x12.50 Pro Comp X-T's
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Blizzard
Gen III
9/05/2001
10:52:12
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Just not QUITE as good as 33's ... ;o)
'01 QC 4x4
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Knobbyman
Dodge Dakota
9/05/2001
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Sweet glad u got it working..
Is there a way you could mount the bumper like 1/2 inch further forward? like put a spacer in where the bumper mounts to the frame? or weld a new mount..
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Hawkeye
*GenIII*
9/05/2001
19:36:17
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LOL@ Blizzard!!
Knobby, I am going to look into that and a few other things. Seems to be ok for now. Going to play around a little and see what I can come up with. Really want a new bumper but everything I have seen so far is a little expensive and not quite exactly what I am looking for. Have to wait and see what the one that Jay is developing at Neohio-offroad that he mentioned on another post. Oh yeah, in case anyone hasnt noticed the other post, new pics are up.
'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
33x12.50 Pro Comp X-T's
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Hawkeye
*GenIII*
9/10/2001
21:16:06
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Had a little fun on the way to work this morning. Had a newer S-10 4x4 come flying up behind me on the interstate. I wasnt in a hurry (going to work, never in a hurry to get there) so I let him around me. He goes by staring at my truck really hard. I look at him and smile, thinking in the back of my head "wow, not a bad looking 4x4 for an S-10". Then he goes by and jusdt swings over in front of me really hard, like he's trying to show off or intimidate me. I notice from behind him that he has a body lift and larger tires too. Looked to be about a 2-3 inch body lift and about 32x11.50 Mud tires of some kind (hard to read the sidewalls at 60 mph). I pull out to go around him and give it a little gas to get back even with him and he desides to give it some gas too like he doesnt want me to pass him. I notice as I get next to hime that I am still taller and bigger than him. I can tell he really has that 4.3 screaming so I give it enough gas to make mine downshift out of 4th into 3rd. Start to pull away slowly and then he really gets on it. I figured enough is enough so I drop the hammer. I'll let you guys figure out what happened then. Once I hit 65 it was obvious he didnt have enough to catch up so I slowed down again. Let him go past me. Pulled back up next to him. Slowed down again. Pulled back in behind him really quickly quickly and stayed there. He slows down to like 55 and I swear I could see that S-10 shaking as if it were nervous that my Dak was right behind it and it knew it couldnt get away. Think I may get a new front tag made that says "S-10's, Yum Yum" with a rams skull eating a bow tie.
'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
33x12.50 Pro Comp X-T's
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Hawkeye
*GenIII*
9/16/2001
20:42:32
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If anyone is interested, I think I have the slight rubbing problem eliminated that I was experiencing. Wasn't as much room to move the bumper as I had hoped but, after an hour of lying under the front tire and bumper I finally noticed something. The rubbing was always occuring on the very bottom corner of the plastic fender well liner where it meets the plastic on the bumper. What was happening was, the very outside edge of the tire, when turning, was ever so slightly grabbing the bottom tip of the plastic and pulling it into the tire. I noticed that there was quite a bit of play in the bottom of the liner, so, I drilled a small hole where it couldnt be seen in the plastic and ran a super heavy duty black zip tie through it and attached it to the outboard bumper support. It tightened up the liner considerably and looks like it has done the trick. It didn't rub at all while ago, so I will see how we do tomorrow. Hopefully this will do the trick. I also have made some braces to attach to the bumper mounts and to the frame to give the bumper more support. I can give details to anyone interested and may even be able to make some for folks. Made them out of 1/4 inch thick aluminum bars so they are pretty stiff, light weight, and wont rust.
'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
33x12.50 Pro Comp X-T's
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