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Brian22
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8/27/2004
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I'm planning to do a solid axle swap on my 97 cc 5.2 4x4, and im about to start combing the junkyards for a 79 ford, but im wondering just how much is all this going to cost me.. i have about $10,000 to throw at it.. but i want to hold onto as much of that money as possible
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forexfour
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8/30/2004
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I pulled this from another Dakota Board
ok heres a short list of what you would need for a gen3.
by the way its not complete because everybody will do something different.
Dana 44 or 60 front axle preferably from a 1977 1/2 to a 1979 ford f-250 or 350
Dana 60 rear axle from something. Axle prices vary greatly so i'm not gonna give a price for them
for the rear axle you will have to take it to a machine shop or a place that specializes in axles inorder to have a tone ring installed onto the carrier and a bracket for the sensor in the actual housing. cost me $400
the rear Drive shaft will need to be shortend unless you lift the rear more than 12 inches i think. cost me $50 +/-
the front drive shaft will have to be custom with a double cardan joint at the transfercase. somewhere around $200-300 cant find the receipt
the front out put yoke on the transfercase will need to be replaced.
OK guys THIS IS ONLY FOR A 2003 WITH THE NP233 ELECTRIC TRANSFERCASE!!!! as far as i know. the Spicer part number is 2-4-4341. you will have to have some of the splines machined out of the inside of the yoke to make it seat in the transfercaser properly and inorder to get the bearing pre-load on the out put shaft correct.
I paid $75 for the yoke and did the machining myself on a lathe but expect to pay atleast 20-50 bucks to a machinist.
I used the gear box out of the 78 ford f-250 and fabbed up a mount for it, I dont think this will be able to be used like i did unless you have a 3in body lift. new reman gear box is like $250+/-
I used Flaming River for my steering shaft. $250 for the complete shaft
I am using high steer arms from Parts Mike $230 for the arms and spacers
using tierod and drag link ends from a 85 blazer check out this link. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billa...ingresearch.htm
about 80 inches of 1.250 O.D. X .75 I.D. DOM tubing for the tierod and drag link $85
I used 4 in lifted front spings from a 1977 3/4 ton chevy $200+/-
i used 1977 chevy rear sping shackles for the front springs I had to shorten them up an inch or two $40
rear springs are stock with a 5.5in block and a AAL and the rear still sits 2 in low.
just havent gotten around to getting springs made yet for the rear.
If your new front axle has dual pistion calipers your going to need a bigger mastercylinder.
I converted the rear drums to disk brakes. 1977 Chevy 3/4 ton front calipers, rotors and rubber brake hose. You should really do this cause its almost as cheap as replacing the drums and wheel cylinders and springs .............
If you use my set up I used a mastercylinder our of a 1995 dodge one ton. $230
and a proportioning valve from summit $30
the push rod will have to be made longer just so you know in advance
I'm sure there is so much more that i missed and little intracit stuff I left out but every bodys will be different.
I hope that poster does not mind, sorry if so.
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Bluedak
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8/30/2004
15:09:19
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I am redoing my SAS right now and I have some parts for sale that you might need. I have, tires, rims, shocks, rear leafs, coil-overs, etc. You can email me if you are interested. I need to sell this stuff so i will make you a good deal.
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Darkone
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11/28/2004
02:02:18
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Thanks for all the prices forexfour, now I finally have something to work with in terms of considering my own swap, mind you it is a gen 2
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MIGHTYQUYNH
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12/14/2004
00:53:05
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Just found a guy in co springs gonna do me axel swap for me. labor about $500 and axels about $1000, PUTTING GM 14BLT REAR AND 12BLT FRONT. WILL HOPEFULLY BE DONE SOME TIME NEXT MONTH. WILL KEEP POST ON HOW IT GOES AND LOOKS. AND IF ANYONE IS INTRESTED AND AROUND CO I CAN PASS HIS # OFF TO YA.
LATER
MIGHTY QUYNH
2000 QUADCAB,
DANA 60'S ARE JUST SO HARD TO FIND AND COST AN ARM AND A LEG.
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Leviticus
Dodge Dakota
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12/14/2004
23:22:56
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I wanna see how that turns out..Seems dirt cheap to me. Hell i might have to drive out CO springs from Missouri and have him do mine if it turns out good. Keep us updated!
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BIGTYMER
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12/15/2004
08:43:24
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I might be wrong but doesn't a gm front axle have the housing on the wrong side...?
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MightyQuynh
GenIII
12/15/2004
11:11:21
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I'm Not sure about that. Has a Blazer he's parting out for me. Said the axle was a 14blt and front a 12blt, already has 4.10/f 4.11/b gears. I'll let you know, going to see him again this weekend when i go pick my buddies truck up from him. He's putting a 350 in my buddies 2002 zr2 blazer. took out his v6. Guy seems to know what he's doing and have heard alot of good stuff from other people. Might be end of this year or sometime in january when i can get it done. Will keep ya posted.
Later
MightyQ
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Walt_Felix
Dodge Dakota
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12/17/2004
18:07:18
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I think BIGTYMER is right. I don't recall GM having the front meatball on the driver's side.
Walt
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MightyQuynh
GenIII
12/22/2004
18:06:31
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woohoo folks...be bringing my truck in mid january. will make sure to get pictures of it and how he got it installed. will be interesting for sure. Oh still waiting for my buddy to get his blazer back. engine fits good but they are having trble with the wiring harness. Will post some pics of that too.
Later
MightyQ
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99blkdak
Dodge Dakota
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12/27/2004
05:50:26
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Just about all pre-96 gm's had the pumpkin on the passenger side. Newer gm halftons have the pumpkin on the driver side
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Walt_Felix
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12/27/2004
09:50:33
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But are newer GM halftons (96+) solid axles in the front? I was under the impression GM went IFS in the mid 90s.
Walt
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99blkdak
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12/27/2004
09:58:35
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sorry, pre 91's, 91-mid 95 i belive.
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MightyQuynh
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12/27/2004
10:58:14
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I thought walt was right also, gm's went with an ifs. well anyways. i will hopefully make it down there this week to check the axles out again. i will take some pictures and post them. I'll get this figured out so we dont start confusing ourselves. Later Folks
MightyQ
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mightyquynh
GenIII
12/27/2004
11:02:29
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Oh this is coming out of an older blazer too. 80's 70's not sure. mightyquynh
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solid dakota
Dodge Dakota
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12/28/2004
23:20:02
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Just about anything GM is Passenger side drop...you have to go with a Ford Front Housing or you will have to cut the tubes and re-tube the housing.
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dak01
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1/08/2005
19:51:19
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i didnt realise gm made a 12 bolt fron diff, you sure it itnst a 10 bolt? and your t case output is on the drivesrs side, when the chevy front pumpkin is on the passenger side. unless you want a diffeernt t-case go with ford running gear.
my 90 dak has a 14 bolt rear, d44 front, 360, 727 and np205 on 36's.
good luck
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