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dAkAtA
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9/19/2003
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to those who have done it..
if i were to straight axle swap my truck (97' 5.2 4x4 cc) what axle is the easiest to use in the front?
thank you
keep it simple i want no arguing please =-)
DRew
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Dakota 202
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9/24/2003
15:58:18
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Do you want a coil or leaf spring set-up? Easiest by far would be a High pinion Dana 30 out of as 87 wrangler. That would be a leaf spring set-up. You could also use a dana 44 out of wagoneer or scout. That would be marginally stronger in stock form.
The main issue would be getting your front and rear bolt patterns to match up. Do you have the 8.25" rear end?
If you want a coil set-up pull a high or low pinion dana 30 from the front of any cherokee or wrangler. It's a 5 link set-up and would be more complicated then a leaf spring.
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jessetaylor
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9/25/2003
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NO! dude, unless u know what ur talking about don't give advice. the axles from a cherokee are low pinion axles. if ur gonna do a live axle and get any decent lift use a 78-79 ford 1/2 ton or bronco dana 44...i have a 2000 that i used an f150 front from..i cut off the spring perches and 4 linked the front with kings....you can have an axle guy build you a set of new axles for the rear to match the 5x5 lug of the front for 400 bucks....i only did that cuz i already have a 9.25 rearend(strong) then again, it would definately be easier to just buy the 9" out of the rear of the same ford...look all over the internet, every jeep site tell about the ford dana 44 and 9", but expect to blow a good $10,000 doing it
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Dakota 202
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9/25/2003
13:28:03
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The axles from an XJ are not low pinion they are high pinion. Also what do youthink is so wrong with low pinion?????There is not that much of a strength difference.
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my 2 cents
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9/25/2003
19:15:18
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High pinion just means that you will have less of a driveshaft angle to worry about because the output is on top of the axle , therefore better.
Strenght is not an issue , be it a high or low pinion , but it is if you were to use a weak Dana 30 . They are made for a small tire (33 max) on a light veh., with no ponies under the hood to blow it apart , ie. jeeps.
When is the last time you picked up your favorite 4X4 mag and saw an article about installing a Dana 30 in ANYTHING!!!
Anyone that knows anything about building trucks will tell you to use at LEAST a dana 44 , and if you are going to run a big tire (38-up) with losts of power ,and use it like it`s meant to be go with a Dana60.
I`m not trying to start a fight about this , I`m only trying to help those that are misinformed.
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dakota202
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9/25/2003
21:53:32
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I am not trying to start anything either. If it were going into a serious mud runner I wouldnt even bother with a 44 just go with a dana 60 so you dont have to worry. But for something thats going to see light duty 4 wheeling the dana 30 would be fine. I know a few Jeeps that run them with V-8's. You can get warn alloy shafts, CTM U-joints and that beefs them up substanially. The primary reason I suggested the Dana 30 is, for the coil spring set-up.
XJ and TJ dana 30's come with a 5 Link suspension. You can pick them up for $300.00 with everything you'd need done to the axle already in place. Then if you have the 8.25 rear axle you would just have to pull some shafts from an XJ (with that axle) and your bolt patterns will match.
Now if we are talking leaves thats a no brainer. You can make dang near anything work.
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GRRRRRRRRRRRR
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10/26/2003
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I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO THINKS YOU NEED 10,000 BUCKS FOR A PAIR OF AXLES?
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DAKS
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10/26/2003
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I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YEAR TJ OR YJ FOR THE DANA 30 SWAP INTO MY 95 2 WHEEL DRIVE? ALSO WHAT ABOUT A 44 OUT OF GRAND CHEROKEE?
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erckota4x4
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10/26/2003
23:53:20
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Newer grand cherokees came w a D30 up front, not sure about the older one thought.
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daks
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10/27/2003
00:29:58
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Wow I feel stupid now I didn't know that was a dana 30. I just want to put a solid axle under my rig. I think a d30 will be sufficient I just want to know what years I should be looking at?
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4wDakota
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10/27/2003
10:03:46
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If you put a D30 under a 4500+ lb Dakota you are asking or breakage. Dana 44 minimum
98 CC 4x4, 5.2 Auto 3.55LSD
3" Body Lift, 1" Torsion Bar Lift, 33" BFG A/T KO's
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daks
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10/28/2003
02:15:10
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You have a body lift!
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Luke
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10/28/2003
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Don't waste your time with a Dana 30, even with alloy shafts and CTM's you still have a week carrier. So basically with those mods you just move your "fusible link" from the axles to the carrier, making it alot more difficult to get off the trail. Its nice to have a "fusible link" thats easy to repair on the trail like driveshaft u-joints, or hubs.
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THRASHER
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10/28/2003
10:39:00
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Use the dana 44 off the older bronco, run the coils...this is the setup that i am getting ready to swap into my truck...once you have the axle under the truck, you can always upgrade to a dana 60....
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tj
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10/28/2003
15:01:17
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i did my 92 with a dana 44 and a ford 9". it rides on 35" sts. and looks and rides very nice. the swap is easy with the bronco axles at less for the genII which is what a few of you are asking about i take it if you have any ? about how the swap is done i would be morethan happy to help.
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91 dak
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1/06/2004
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TJ, what/how much of a lift did u go with on ur truck? and the STS', what brand is that? Interco? the dana 44/9" BOTH from a 78/79 bronco to correct?
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Perpetrate
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1/07/2004
13:21:36
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Use both axles, springs, spring buckets, shock mounts, trac-bars, steering rods, rotors, calipers and the only thing that needs to be fabed up it the trac-bar brackets.
Basicaly everything from the frame down gets swaped. If you pay a shop to do it, count on 20-30 hours of labor times the shop rate, plus the cost of the parts.
Craig
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tj
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1/07/2004
15:48:42
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hey 91 dak
i use everything from the 79 bronco. the sts are turxs which are super swamper. love the look and ride of these tires. not in counting the tire hight i got almost 10 inches. plus i have a 3" body plus the 35" tires.
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4wDakota
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1/07/2004
16:00:24
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Yes I do have a bodylift, what's your point???
98 CC 4x4, 5.2 Auto 3.55LSD
3" Body Lift, 1" Torsion Bar Lift, 33" BFG A/T KO's
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tx400ex
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9/15/2005
13:16:16
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Hey Dakota202, not sure that you have ever looked underneath a Dakota, but you can't use any axles from an old wagoneer or scout. They are the same as chevy, the differential on the front axle is on the passenger side, dakotas have the differential on the passenger side. The only axles you can use are pretty much Ford axles. You could use newer Dodge Ram axles but those are probably expensive, and they have the same center axle disconnect which is week. Practically all Ford solid axles have manual hubs, much stronger. Also, I don't see how anyone would have to spend $10,000 on a set of axles. You can get a brand new Ford 9" rear from places like Currie and the Bronco Graveyard for around $1,000. That gets you everything except brakes, gears and lockers. You can also get Dana 44 or 60 fronts for less than $2,000. even if you add the cost of the extra parts, including fabbing up some brackets for leaf springs or coil buckets, shocks, etc, there is no way it would be $10k. The only way is if you paid someone to do everything for you.
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