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V8Lum
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7/09/2003
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Well, just put some 35's on my truck! Ive got BFG 35x12.5 on American racing (rock crawler lookalikes) 15x8 rims. My truck; a measly 3" Body lift and a 1.5" torsion bar lift! I did a bunch of cutting (not really, took like 10mins to cut a couple inches of the plastic wheel liner) and i only get rubbing at completely full lock. So, for all you guys who said it wasnt possible, enjoy your 33's, my truck looks sick. :) lol, anyway ill have pics pretty soon, its dark out right now, i should have them up by thursday/friday.
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shiftrider
Dodge Dakota
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7/09/2003
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Nice. I was wondering about that myself i have 33x13.5 on stock rims(i know i need a 10 inch rim) and barely rub at full lock, and i didnt have to trim anything, i want to see this pics though.
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forexfour
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7/09/2003
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V8,
Hope to see you at the Pismo GTG in August and wheel it with those 35's. I am sure Craig, Arthur, Kevin and Dj will want to check it out.
Chris
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V8Lum
Dodge Dakota
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7/09/2003
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Yeah, ill try and get up there, im REALLY busy this summer though, have a meet in azusa again and ill be sure to come. We somewhat tested articulation today and i have zero rubbing. Like i said the only rubbing i get is at full lock, i have yet to wheel it hard or anything yet though. The rear didnt need any modification at all, the tires fit perfectly with about an inch, maybe a little less on each side. The rims have 5" of BS which is perfect for tires this big, and i went with 15x8 to help keep them as close to stock as possible. On the front we trimed the wheel liner about 4" front and back, and i ended up cutting a little on the fender flare but its at the bottom so you cant even see it. the overall look of them is awesome, cant wait to see how they do off pavement.
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V8Lum
Dodge Dakota
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7/14/2003
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http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/V8lum
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4wDakota
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7/14/2003
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Nice!
98 CC 4x4, 5.2 Auto 3.55LSD
3" Body Lift, 1" Torsion Bar Lift, 33" BFG A/T KO's
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V8Lum
Dodge Dakota
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7/14/2003
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thanks man, the pics dont do it justice, ill have to get some more. 3" lift, 1.5"-2" Torison bar lift and a 2" lift from the tires, this things huge. Lets see if my link works:
My Dakota on 35's
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jimbo maui
Dodge Dakota
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7/14/2003
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V8, truck looks really good with the 35's. Let us know how it runs off road, I was thinking about the same tire for my next set, I would like to know if there's much rubbing off road if any.
ALOHA, jimbo
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V8Lum
Dodge Dakota
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7/14/2003
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jimbo, your running a bigger lift than me though arnt you? Anyway, ive got some rubbing on the front when wheelin it hard, it will just take a tiny bit more cutting. The right rear rubs at full articulation because after my BL, the bed isnt absolutly perfect, im talkin like 2-3mm off and it wasnt enough to clear them so ill have to realign my bed just a tad. Thats basiclly all of it, turing radius is smaller cause the tires rub on the frame at FULL lock, just dont crank it all the way and its fine. Overall its well worth it, i love the look, i love the lift it gives, i love how they sound, i cant even imagine 33's now that ive got these on. Hope that helps, ill get some more pics to try and show you guys whats going on during full articulation etc.
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blu4door
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7/15/2003
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Nice. The 35" look sweet on your truck. If the thought of trimming didn't make me cringe I would think about it.
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Brandon
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7/15/2003
18:41:52
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Truck looks DAMN GOOD!!!!! im really thinking about giving it a try. im running 33's right now on my 01 dak with a 16x10 inch rim. i know ide have to run 16x8 though to get the 35's under there. did u ABSOLUTLY HAVE TO cut the fender flare? or was that for just in case. my inner fenders are already trimed but i really dont wanna cut the flares. is the 5 inch back spacing good enough, or do u suggest i run something else. ill be sure and post if i go through with this. let me know man. c-ya!
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Scott
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7/15/2003
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Looks awesome!!!
I was pretty sure it could be done without doing a total hack job of the fenders.
Do you have any close-up shots of your trimming job?
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V8Lum
Dodge Dakota
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7/15/2003
21:10:02
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aight heres some more pics. I took some close-ups of the cutting i did. To answer your question, i dont think you HAVE to cut the flares but you may ended up rippen em off if you flex the suspension and your wheels are turning. I got some shots of how the wheels sit in the wheel wells too, theres plenty of room. Anyway, here they are:
http://jdmaero.com/Dakota/DSC00797.jpg
http://jdmaero.com/Dakota/DSC00798.jpg
http://jdmaero.com/Dakota/DSC00799.jpg
http://jdmaero.com/Dakota/DSC00800.jpg
http://jdmaero.com/Dakota/DSC00801.jpg
http://jdmaero.com/Dakota/DSC00802.jpg
http://jdmaero.com/Dakota/DSC00803.jpg
http://jdmaero.com/Dakota/DSC00804.jpg
Enjoy :) Ohh, and thanks for the compliments :)
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brandon
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7/15/2003
23:21:33
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ok guys ive made my mind up and im going to buy my 35's 2morrow. im gonna mount them on my stock rims though for the time being. ill post some pics when i get it all done with. is anyone else planning on trying this? let us know. c ya!
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2THEXTRM
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7/15/2003
23:49:05
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I'd like to see no rubbin(other than frame at full lock) with your set-up and only trimming fender liner and some flare. I have another 3" and you wouldn't see me doing any serious off-road flexing, vid's on forexfour's website showing this feat would be nice to give me some hope to not have to swap to 33's for off-roading everytime like I have been doing.
Truck looks great though V8.
Flowmaster cat back, Volant Intake, Poweraid TB Spacer, Splitfire Plugs, full synthetic fluids
4 inch Rancho/3 inch body Lift, 315 70-17 on AE 219's, Rancho 9000x's
Grizzly double/single rollbar with (6)Hella's, Manik Nerfs/Tailight Guards, Line-X, Hard Work & $$$$$$$$$$
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jimbo maui
Dodge Dakota
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7/16/2003
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V8, thanks for the reply, I just might try the BFG 35's for my next set. Again truck looks really good.
jimbo
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V8Lum
Dodge Dakota
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7/16/2003
04:32:33
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Yeah 2thextrm. Though i noticed, it was only people with 3" suspension lifts that were telling me i shouldnt do it, though with a body lift, all you have is extra clearence without any extra flex, make sence? So the tires arnt gonna be going to far up in the wheel well. I will admit that the turning radius is much smaller do to the rubbing on the frame, and i do have slight rubbing (rear right tire due to misangled bed) and a little on the front that needs to be trimmed, but all in all i like the way they work. I will say that 33's are for most people, but if you wanna go with 35's they can be made to work, and imo look awesome. Thanks for all the compliments everyone, made my day lol :)
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forexfour
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7/16/2003
09:49:46
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Lum,
Nice work. I do not doubt the 35's fit and will work for you. I still think at full flex you may be in some trouble. I hope you can wheel it as you like with no problems. I want to hook up with you again sometime to check it out and see it flex. This will help me understand the clearance. I still think the 35's are gonna be a costly route for anyone but only time will tell.
Have you been to Gorman before? I would like to check that place out sometime.
Let me know if you can plan a trip.
Chris
Never late for a Tee time or wheelin with my buddies! Always ready for both!!!Forexfour's home
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99Dak5.2L4x4
Dodge Dakota
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7/16/2003
11:51:16
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Hey V8
Do you think those 589 Eagle wheels with 3.63 backspacing on 15x8 or 15x10 would help with the rubbing at full lock since it would push the wheel out further from the frame?
thanks.. and let me know what you think
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SaharaScott
Dodge Dakota
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7/16/2003
11:57:52
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V8
I didn't see anything about the backspacing on your rims. I had planned on 33s but after seeing your truck with the 35s I am starting to rethink my purchase.
Later,
scott@dakota01.com
2001 Patriot Blue SLT Quad Cab 4x4, 4.7 V-8, K&N air filter, new Moog upper ball joints, Powerslot rotors, Hawk pads and a 3" PA body lift.
Soon to have 33x12.5x15 Good Year MT/Rs and 15x8 Center Line HellCats.
Pics will be available soon at http://www.dakota01.com
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forexfour
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7/16/2003
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The issue with rims with that little BS is your tires are so far out from the frame that they will now rub the outer part of the fenders. It will be worse than Frame rub.
Example, I ran 32x11.5x15 MT's borrowed from a friend, they were on AE 589's a BS of 3.5". I could not run these with out rubbing on every driveway or sharp turn. They rubbed hard on the Flares and metal. This was after I put on the 3" rancho lift.
Just FYI. I think the best BS to use would be 4.5" if you can find them. But I am no expert! I have only ran about every size tire possible to find the best for my purposes.
Never late for a Tee time or wheelin with my buddies! Always ready for both!!!Forexfour's home
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SaharaScott
Dodge Dakota
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7/16/2003
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forexfour
I completely agree with you and I would like to think that if you did find a rim that has right around 4.5 backspacing that you shouldn't see any rubbing. Now this is really making me think because the Center Line rims that I plan to buy have a 4.5 backspacing.
Thanks for the insight.
scott@dakota01.com
2001 Patriot Blue SLT Quad Cab 4x4, 4.7 V-8, K&N air filter, new Moog upper ball joints, Powerslot rotors, Hawk pads and a 3" PA body lift.
Soon to have 33x12.5x15 Good Year MT/Rs and 15x8 Center Line HellCats.
Pics will be available soon at http://www.dakota01.com
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forexfour
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7/16/2003
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Do you have some Pictures or a link to those rims?
I guess you realize you need more lift for those 35's. I think you spoke of getting the Rancho.
I would like to know how those rims work out.
Also remember Lum is a 98. Different lift. The new spindles for the Rancho 00-03 lift creates a new BS issue with the relocation of the upper Ball joints. I am running 15x7 Gen II rims with 5" of BS with 33x10.5x15 MT's, Ball joint clearance is about .5" maybe but prolly less.
I am not sure how the 97-99 lift works.
2thextrm is the only 00' that I know of running 35's with the setup of Rancho and PA 6" of total lift. BUt he has to run 33's to wheel as far as I understand.
Chris
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V8Lum
Dodge Dakota
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7/16/2003
13:51:57
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My wheels have 5" of BS, on a 15x8. I agree with Chris that it may solve the frame rubbing issue, but it will make the tire completely hit the fender and tear it right off. Like i said, i have already tested full articulation (one wheel was in the air) so i know exactly what rubs and my truck is perfectly "wheelable" as it sits right now. Im going to the Dodge Truck World cali meet so if anyone wnats to see it just come by and say whats up. L8rz
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SaharaScott
Dodge Dakota
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7/16/2003
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forexfour
I guess I missed the point about the difference between the pre 2000 dak's suspension. Is it really that different than my 01 that I won't be able to run 35s with just a body lift?
As for the rims they are definitely not cheap but I figure this will be the last set I buy for a while. Besides I have a friend that manages the local Discount Tire store here so I am getting a pretty good deal.
Here is a pic of the rims and tires from desertrat.com
http://desertrat.com/twpackages/goodyear/gyr_cen.htm
Here is a list of the available backspacing:
http://www.4wheelparts.com/product2.asp?imseqn=308&occlass=C/L&cat=WHE
Later,
scott@dakota01.com
2001 Patriot Blue SLT Quad Cab 4x4, 4.7 V-8, K&N air filter, new Moog upper ball joints, Powerslot rotors, Hawk pads and a 3" PA body lift.
Soon to have 33x12.5x15 Good Year MT/Rs and 15x8 Center Line HellCats.
Pics will be available soon at http://www.dakota01.com
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forexfour
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7/16/2003
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I am not an expert here nor do I claim to be, so you know. Those rims look to be the right ones but I have not run anything other than stock rims. I just dont care for the custom rims, prolly cause it is hard to imagine them on the truck and they are just to Chromed out shiny for me.
You may want to talk to 2thextrm about running 35's on 00 and newer. He is doing it with soem success. If my memeory serves me correctly in our e-mail comm and as he states here he has to run 33's to wheel. I am not sure if he is aware that Lum is a 98.
I as well am not sure of the Rancho differences from the pre '00 and the post '00. That is why I want to hook up with Lum again.
Lum you say a Dodgetruckworld group meet. I will have to see where and when.
The Pismo meet8-23-24 would be great, half way for both of us.
We'll see what happens.
Chris
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SaharaScott
Dodge Dakota
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7/16/2003
14:55:30
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Chris (forexfour)
I thought that V8Lum only has a body lift? Did I missing something else? I know my day has been pretty bad here at work but man I must be reading the wrong post, lol. from V8Lum's original post he states that all he has is a 3" body lift. If that is the case I would like to think that I could run 35s just like him. I have my t-bars cranked to level out the truck and I'm not afraid of a little trimming.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Later,
scott@dakota01.com
2001 Patriot Blue SLT Quad Cab 4x4, 4.7 V-8, K&N air filter, new Moog upper ball joints, Powerslot rotors, Hawk pads and a 3" PA body lift.
Soon to have 33x12.5x15 Good Year MT/Rs and 15x8 Center Line HellCats.
Pics will be available soon at http://www.dakota01.com
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forexfour
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7/16/2003
15:07:38
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You are right that is what he said!
I thought in previous Comm he stated he got a Sus lift. I really am in doubt about the 35's now.
Perpetrate from here is someone I wheel with allot! In fact we were together this weekend, Anyway he is a '99 3" body lift only. He had to use my knife to clear the 33"s on stock rims.
I have some great upclose video that I have not been able to process of him running the articulation washout at Hollister. This video clearly shows how close the 33's are to fitting. I will get it posted soon.
Lum is the man though! He has it on and running so who am I to doubt it!
I am not sure if you are awarebut I was one of the few to run 33x12.5x15 MT's on stock. NO lift. I was limited to moderate wheeln. But it worked. I still do not see stuffin a 35 but I will never run anything that big.
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SaharaScott
Dodge Dakota
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7/16/2003
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forexfour
Thanks for all the great info. I think I am going to call my friend at Discount Tire and see what their policies are if I decide to buy the 35s and see what they will do for me if they don't work out. If they let me put a couple miles on them just to test them out then I will order that size. If they don't then I will buy some 33s. I would love to have the first dak in my area to run such a big tire. That would be sweet. Also I really don't do that much offroading so this truck would basically stay on the pavement.
Thanks for the great info and if anyone else has any additional input let me know especially V8Lum since this was actually his post. LOL
Later,
scott@dakota01.com
2001 Patriot Blue SLT Quad Cab 4x4, 4.7 V-8, K&N air filter, new Moog upper ball joints, Powerslot rotors, Hawk pads and a 3" PA body lift.
Soon to have 33x12.5x15 Good Year MT/Rs and 15x8 Center Line HellCats.
Pics will be available soon at http://www.dakota01.com
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V8Lum
Dodge Dakota
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7/16/2003
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The DTW meet is just this Saturday at a local library, check out the Cali chapter forum for more details. Ill try to make it out to pismo, though im really busy like i said and thats a full weekend trip for sure. to answer some of your guys quesitons, i have a 98, with just the 3" PA body lift, and the t-bars cranked to level it out, and then the tires give a 2" lift to the overall truck. Even at 6' tall, i find it hard to get in my truck now lol. I would get some more shots of it wheelin, but ive got some AC issues now so shes in the shop, ill be sure to post em up as soon as i take em though. Anyway, thanks for the compliments/questions/suggestions,
Rob
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Brandon
Dodge Dakota
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7/16/2003
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Ok, heres what i think.... i went today and dug out my stock 16x8 and took them to a local tire place today in hopes of buying my 35's, but when i got down there, they had a almost new set of 305/75/16 MT/R's for sell. i paid 150.00$ and they were on in no time. i could easily clear 35's or 315/75/16's on these stock rims. actually im not sure but i think 315's may be just a hair smaller than 35's. but ive heard too that they are the same. anyways, for anyone out there wondering, yes you can fit 315/75/16's under youre 2001 dakota. all i have is a 3 inch body lift and TB's cranked about 2 inches or whatever it is to level out the truck. by the way, those MT/R's SUCK BIG TIME!!!! it feels like im riding on a tractor or something now. i wouldnt recommend them for the road. but they do dang good in the dirt. im selling them to a friend 2morrow and hopefully ill have these 315's on there by 2morrow or the next day sometime. ill keep yall posted. c-ya!
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