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Tad_W
Dodge Dakota
6/13/2001
18:40:49
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 Subject: GOT STUCK!!Limited slip help in mud?
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Got stuck in some heavy clay mud. Had to get pulled out by an old Ford. Quite embarressing. I don't have a limited slip. Most of our four wheeling is in sand and mud and not alot of steep hill climbing. Would a limited slip install in our truck help in mud and sand if all four wheels are in the same type of sand and mud?
2000 4x4 QC sport 4.7L auto tran
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sandman
Dodge Dakota
6/13/2001
19:30:38
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Yes a locker will help. Put realy there is no substitute for ground clearance and good off road tires.
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Hawkeye
Dakota Enthusiast
6/13/2001
20:02:50
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Yes, any kind of LSD or locker will help you. The more tires turning the better. One tire may be able to find a little traction that the others cant and may keep you moving. Also, the more tires turning the less the others have to drag them through stuff.
'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
Jet Power
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Ryan Kane
Dodge Dakota
6/14/2001
00:01:22
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From what I remember, with an LSD the left tire does not kick in until the LSD senses the right tire spinning (and it can only detect a "spin" if the left tire is stable and the right is spinning). So if you ever encounter a position where you just spin your right rear tire and the left rear is stable, then the LSD sends power to the left tire to get it going.
Am I right? Help me guys.
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JP
Dodge Dakota
6/14/2001
00:10:18
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There are a variety of LSD's. They range from adding resistance to the tire that has traction to an outright lock between tires on the same axle. I will try to find a link that explains the range of options or maybe someone else already has one. Not only are there performance differences but there are advantages and disadvantages on-road vs off-road. It makes for interesting reading and I have to explore the options periodically due to ongoing technical improvements.
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andrew
Dodge Dakota
6/14/2001
00:44:40
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Dont feel bad, I got stuck in my 93 4x4 wLSD in some embarassing muck. May have had something to do with my not so great offroad tires.
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MikeC
Dodge Dakota
6/14/2001
09:36:04
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This looks good...I had another but lost it yesterday.
http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/faqs/diffs.html
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Hop
Dodge Dakota
6/14/2001
09:45:49
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Next time you get stuck, try applying the e-brake where it will apply pressure to the tire that is spinning.. allowing the other tire a chance to take up the slack.."until you get a LSD" ;-)
Hop
97cc 318 4x4 3:55LSD
http://home.swbell.net/hopsdak
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Hop
Dodge Dakota
6/14/2001
09:48:04
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Next time you get stuck, try applying the e-brake where it will apply pressure to the tire that is spinning.. allowing the other tire a chance to take up the slack.."until you get a LSD" ;-)
Hop
97cc 318 4x4 3:55LSD
http://home.swbell.net/hopsdak
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Mar
Dodge Dakota
6/14/2001
11:04:01
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The dodge LSD is pretty close to being locked.
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hubba bubba
Dodge Dakota
6/14/2001
13:27:06
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Getting stuck is just a way to learn not to! Every body gets stuck at some point. Learn from your mistakes. Can't believe nobody recommended tire pressure. In sand and mud take down the air pressure in your tires. You can go as low as 10 psi. This will give your tires a much wider base and much more tread to get traction on. When you are out of the muck pump the tires back up to normal. I also carry a high lift jack with me. If you get stuck it won't be for long. Lift all the tires out 1 at a time. Backfill the hole that the tires occupied with a shovel. Take down the tire pressure and drive off. I had to be taught this. Haven't been stuck for long since. And I now get myself out of the situation.
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Shawn
Gen III
6/14/2001
20:00:52
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If your off road a lot a Warn Winch is invaluable. I tottaly agree about the tire pressure!!! And if you are really into it you can get an airlocker, then you have a locked diff when you need it and an Air compressor for the Diff and to refill your tires afterward.
I had this type of setup on an 87 K5 Blazer with 10"'s of lift. 38"s. It was bad ASS, but I still got to stuck to get out ONCE (Up to the bottom of my window sills!)...
Shawn
98 5.2L4x4 CC
PowerDyne @ 10PSI
Gibson Dual Cat Back
JBA Ceramic Headers
And a lot of other goodies
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Shawn
Gen III
6/14/2001
20:01:49
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If your off road a lot a Warn Winch is invaluable. I tottaly agree about the tire pressure!!! And if you are really into it you can get an airlocker, then you have a locked diff when you need it and an Air compressor for the Diff and to refill your tires afterward.
I had this type of setup on an 87 K5 Blazer with 10"'s of lift. 38"s. It was bad ASS, but I still got to stuck to get out ONCE (Up to the bottom of my window sills!)...
Shawn
98 5.2L4x4 CC
PowerDyne @ 10PSI
Gibson Dual Cat Back
JBA Ceramic Headers
And a lot of other goodies
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Hawkeye
Dakota Enthusiast
6/14/2001
22:49:29
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Hubba, You are right. Sorry for not mentioning that. I am so used to doing it automatically that I dont really think about it.
'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
Jet Power
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Hawkeye
Dakota Enthusiast
6/15/2001
07:18:44
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Ryan you are right to an extent abou the LSD's. There are a lot of different ones one the market. Some are better than others and they vary in construction. A good LSD will not reqire you to spin one tire to get the other one to turn. Unfortunalty that is how some work. A good LSD like and Auburn or (thankfully) the ones Dodge uses from the factory (not sure of the brand at this time) Are very good. Both tires are getting power. But yes you are pretty much right. Some do require one tire to loose traction and spin, when this happens it makes the lsd engage more power to the other tire. Just remember everyone, LSD's and Lockers are totally different animals. A locker allows very little to no difference in tire speed. Much better than an LSD off road for sure but a bit harder on the tires and driver on the road. That is not meant to sound as though it will just kill you or your tires on the road, just that things wont be quite as gentle as with a LSD. If you go offroad, you will eventually get stuck. Dont care who you are ot what you have. Just learn from it. How and why did it happen. What could I have done differently to avoid it. etc. Also as a final FFT, dont charge someone to pull them out, it may just be you who needs pulling out next time.
'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
32x11.50 BFG AT's
Jet Power
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Tad_W
Dodge Dakota
6/16/2001
20:09:45
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THanks for all your comments from my original post. This is the first 4x4 of my own. Use to just abuse my dad's. I will just be more careful and use the advise you all have given me. In 2005, I will make sure our new dak has limited slip.
2000 qc sport 4x4 4.7L auto tran
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Danny
Dodge Dakota
6/17/2001
12:53:05
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Well, I just read all those posts about LSDs. Should I order my 2002 Dakota Club Cab 4x4 with the optional LSD? Is it worth the $285? It also comes with a 3.92 gear which is also $40. I am ordering a 4.7L with a 5 speed if that makes any difference. I'll use the truck for everyday driving but I'd like to have some off-road capability and I live in Indy, which can get some heavy snow at times! I'd like some opinions please! Thanks!
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Hawkeye
Dakota Enthusiast
6/17/2001
16:26:02
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By all mean do order the LSD. You wont regret it. It is a lot cheaper to get it now than to add it later.
'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
32x11.50 BFG AT's
Jet Power
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Bill A
Dodge Dakota
6/17/2001
22:14:16
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If your gonna spend that extra money you might as well just wait and get a locker. Unless you want to go with a ARB air locker which as most of us know are pretty expensive, but is a god in the locker field. Just my oppion guess it depends on what kind of offroading your gonna do. if its just casual offroading and nother major just opt for the LSD, if you plan on doing alot or major offroading then wait and get a locker much better and they got ones now that arn't loud or too hard on tires....its called a ez locker. hope the info helps
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Danny
Dodge Dakota
6/17/2001
23:11:13
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I just figured out that in order to get the trailer tow package that you must opt for the LSD, so I guess I'll just have to get it then! Thanks for the info though!
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UWGriz
Dodge Dakota
6/18/2001
09:04:33
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Also - in my opinion - get the 3.92 gears! I've been kicking myself for about a year now for not doing it.
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dirtydak
Dodge Dakota
6/18/2001
14:42:17
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Before anyone gets their hopes up about having an ARB air locker in their Dak, you should know that they don't exist for a dakota axle. That was last I heard anyways. Heaven knows I would love to have one.
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