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ram41569
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5/12/2001
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Waiting for my 2001 Quad 5.9 4x4 w/limitied slip.Does the front have a limitied slip also or only the rear dif.
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Ralphp
Dakota Enthusiast
5/13/2001
05:04:54
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Just the rear.
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JP
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5/20/2001
10:08:14
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I too am waiting for my Dak with full time 4X4 with 4.7. I wondered about getting limited slip capabuilty for the front but have not looked into it. Maybe others know the options?
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Hawkeye
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5/20/2001
15:42:16
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To my knowledge there is not a lsd available for our front diffs because of the way they work. Would make steering difficult. Best option would be a ARB air locker. Open until you engage it and then its fully locked. Only problem is they are pretty expensive. They were supposed to be developing one about a year ago. Not sure if it is available yet or not.
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Ryan Kane
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5/20/2001
20:49:04
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NEVER - NEVER - NEVER get a limited slip or full locker for the front tires. Your tires will wear thin quickly, steering will suck, and you will hate it. A limited slip is all you need, in the REAR only, and if you are always doing offroad, you can install a full locker.
ARB lockers are not available on Dakota's.
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Hawkeye
Dakota Enthusiast
5/21/2001
07:28:21
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I have spoken with ARB and they are developing one for the Dakotas. Has been in the works for a year or so now, still trying to work out the bugs. That is why the ARB is the best coice in the front, leaves the diff open until you need it.
'00 QC 4x4
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y22man
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5/21/2001
13:25:53
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this is my 2 cents,
My brother has a 94 ford ranger with a factory limited slip up front. He has had it since it drove off the lot. He has not had uneven ware and steers just fine. I would not go with lockers up front on less you are a serious wheeler. I mean serious. There is not a option from Dodge for a limited slip up front.
again my 2 cents.
Jay
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Hawkeye
Dakota Enthusiast
5/21/2001
14:29:51
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Jay, it depends on the drive setup. I cant remember exactly how the 94 rangers were setup. I had a 91 4x4 F150 with a lsd up front and it was ok as well. But it was not a center disconnect setup so the front axle didnt turn all the time. Older trucks with manual locking hubs can use lockers and lsd's up front with no problem. Our Daks use the center disconnect type so the front axle is always turning. A lsd in it would were the tires and create the steerig difficulty. However with the ARB it stays open until you engage it and then it is fully locked. You would have to be off road though because engaging it on road would be very bad for the driveline and something would probably break as it does not allow for any difference in tire speed.
'00 QC 4x4
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JP
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5/21/2001
22:55:32
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I have a '99 Jeep GC (solid front axel) that has Dana Hydrolocks front, rear and center. That combination allows all power to go to any combination of wheels with traction (even just one!). I know the setup on my soon to be Dak will be different. My hope was that with front posi I could approach the capability of the Jeep. You can't have every thing I guess. The performance of the 4.7 in that is why I am getting the Dakota and I need a pickup. Thanks for your replies.
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ram41569
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5/22/2001
05:32:55
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y22man I have a 95 Ford Ranger now just waiting for my 2001 Quad Cab and my Ranger has the factory limitied slip and it only has it in the rear,not the front.Still have the original window sticker and you can,t get it in the front dif.The ford uses automatic locking hubs and if you want you could install a limitied slip in the front.The factory automatic hubs suck and I put manual hubs in my Ranger.
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Ryan Kane
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5/22/2001
12:21:04
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For y22man, if your friend is running a limited slip up front, I wonder how many times it has actually been used if he has not seen any noticeable tire wear. Probably not many times. The other tire will only become powered when the other is spinning, which doesnt happen much. I usually tell people NOT to put anything in the front, especially if 80-90% of their driving is on the street, which is usually the case for most of us....
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y22man
Dodge Dakota
5/24/2001
16:19:32
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well fellas,
Like I said it was my 2 cents,
And my bro posts to a ranger forum. He also has been told that that was not a option. Well it is he has the original monroni with the option stated! He also has checked the axel codes with ford. LSD! He has been told by others that work on lots of ford rangers that he has never been one that he has worked on. When asked how many rangers he worked on. 300. Do you know how many of those truck are sold in a year??? 75000. Anther thing ware on the tires. Ever heard of Tire rotaion. My bro took his truckout atleast 2 weekends out of the year off-roading and some week trips off-roading.
Like I said it was my 2 cents.
Jay
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y22man
Dodge Dakota
5/24/2001
16:58:50
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Whooooops
I mean atleast 2 weekends a month. Sorry I was a little mad. I was not thinking stright.
Jay
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y22man
Dodge Dakota
5/25/2001
10:57:52
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You know the lsd will only come into effect if there is power to the wheels. Who drives in 4 wheel drive on pavement??? Unless you have full time 4wheel drive. If there is no power to the front diff the lsd dose not take effect.
Jay
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Ryan Kane
Dodge Dakota
5/25/2001
13:58:51
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Does your friend's Ranger have a straight axle or IFS in the front?
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y22man
Dodge Dakota
5/25/2001
16:04:28
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IFS
Jay
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Ryan Kane
Dodge Dakota
5/25/2001
22:21:34
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As far as I know, LSD's, full lockers, and ARB lockers are only available in straight axles. If he has IFS, I just dont see how he could possible have any type of locking differential up there, whether a LSD or locker.
A locking differential is a round piece that looks like gears that is installed inside the housing of the differential. IFS does not have a differential since it isnt a straight axle. So I guess I dont see how he could have any type of locking differential up there...???
I installed an LSD in the rear straight axle of my 1989 Dakota, and I would have to put a straight axle in the front if I ever wanted a LSD, locker, or ARB locker up there....
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Hawkeye
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5/25/2001
22:24:51
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Uh Ryan, have you ever looked at a IFS. There most definitely is a differential there. I am on my 5th IFS and all of them have Diffs.
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Hawkeye
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5/25/2001
22:29:37
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The difference between an IFS and a solid axle is that a solid axle is only one unit, IFS has a center unit and a half shaft on each side. It is still an axle with a diff and gears. The diff is still the same as any other diff.
'00 QC 4x4
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ram41569
Dodge Dakota
5/26/2001
21:11:22
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My 95 Ford Ranger has Twin I-Beam like the ford Broncos which is a little different from IFS.I put in manual hubs myself,it had auto hubs from the factory and there wasn't an opion for limitied slip in the front but you could put it in after market if you wanted too.The Ranger is a great truck but its under powered even with the 4.0.
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Hawkeye
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5/27/2001
08:48:27
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The Ford Twin I Beam setup is a little different yes. It is a cross between an IFS and a solid axle. But for all practical purposes it is a Independent setup. I have owned a 91 and a 96 F150 as well as a 98 and 99. There are lots of aftermarket options available for them and the rangers of the same time period.
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Ryan Kane
Dodge Dakota
5/29/2001
00:01:40
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OK, good point Hawkeye! Thanks. I guess not all IFS are the same...
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Hawkeye
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5/29/2001
07:27:27
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You are right about not wanting a lsd in the front on our daks though Ryan. You could put one in but it would not be much fun. With our center disconnect setups the front axle is always turning. That is why an arb is about the only option. That way it stays open until you need it and can flip the switch when off road. Only problem with arb's is their price. Last word I had from them is they are still working on one for Daks. 4 Wheeler magazine did a Rancho lift on a 99 cc dak fall of last year. They sent the front diff to arb for them to use to prototype one. If anyone is interested by the way, we have a Reverse cut Dana 35 front end on the newer (97-2000) Daks.
'00 QC 4x4
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aggie97
Dodge Dakota
5/30/2001
00:40:49
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Hawkeye, thanks for the info on the diff model!!!! Most of the shops I have been talking to only have a listing showning "dodge Dakota". Isn't the new wrangler using the reverse cut dana 35 too. I wonder if the aluminum housing is different in some way or if we could swap out an older iron housing from an older Dak. Well, I guess it is all pointless for now until someone starts making a 4 or 6 in lift for the 2k's. A locking front diff is not going to fix my ground clearance problem.....
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Hawkeye
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5/30/2001
07:00:47
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It took a lot of calling to different R&P shops to find that out but thats what everyone has them listed as. Judging by the size of the axle it seems right. Rancho emailed me a month or so ago and said they will be releasing their new 3 inch lift for 2000 and up Dakotas and Durangos around the and of the summer or begining of fall. I cant wait for it!
'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
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