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GreenoDak
Dodge Dakota
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11/26/2002
20:15:40
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I've searched this site time and time again on spark plugs for the 2000 4.7L and it seems like everybody has a different opinion on what to use. Now you guys might have modded this engine in one way or another and it requires a slightly differnt plug but for a stock 4.7L, no mods, why do most seems to like the Autolite's 3923's??? Why would you want to put a FORD plug in your Dodge? I've always seen Autolite's as Ford plugs and AC's as GM plugs...Correct me if I'm wrong. I have 41,000 on my 2000 Dak 4.7L and need a spark plug change but I don't want to void my extended warranty by putting AutoLite's in replace of Champions. Especially if I bring it to the dealer to get it done and I hand them a pack of AutoLites and say, "here, put these things in". Is that going to void it? Are these Autolite's working on a different heat range than the stock Champ's??? Thanks for the help.
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DakotaDan
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11/26/2002
20:41:12
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Autolite is owned by Honeywell not Ford
I'm using Bosch Super in my V6, I tried the Autolites but my truck didn't like the colder heat range or something it idled great but when you would take off it had a stumble changed back to the champions and it was gone
Dan
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kev
Dodge Dakota
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11/26/2002
20:55:12
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5224 Autolites is the correct plug for the 4.7 motor, i use them and they work great. This will not void the warranty.
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Harlow Wilcox
Dodge Dakota
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11/26/2002
21:21:55
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Greeno, Dakota Dan is correct. Autolite is owned by Honeywell. In 1961, Ford bought the Autolite battery and sparkplug division and folded it into Ford's corporate hierarchy. In 1974 Ford was forced, due to anti trust issues, to divest the Autolite holdings. In comes Allied Signal, the principal owner of Autolite until the Honeywell-Allied signal merger.
Secondly, using Autolite ignition engineered sparkplugs will NOT void the warranty. I refer to the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1974 as proof that an automaker cannot force you to use their own parts in order to maintain the warranty.
THird, Autolite has a fine tradition of manufacturing high quality sparkplugs for all internal combustion engines. They are indeed a dedicated group of professionals working diligently to provide you with the finest sparkplug money can buy.
Fourth, take it from me, Harlow Wilcox, user and ardent proponent of these fine sparkplugs; nowhere else will you find a better longer lasting sparkplug. Tis time for you my friend to replace those worn out Champions and make the leap ahead with Autolite under your hood. Join the thousands of motorists, myself included, who can rest easy knowing their motor will perform brilliantly during these cold winter months. Smile contendedly when you notice how much more pep and performance you are able to wring from your automobile. Wave a friendly wave when you pass your neighborhood service station as you experience greater fuel economy.
Make the switch today won't you? Just hurry down to your Autolite dealer and ask for Autolite sparkplugs by name!
And remember, from bumper to tailight, you are always right with Autolite!
Good night!
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CMeFly
Dodge Dakota
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11/26/2002
21:25:26
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I use Champion Truck plugs and get great milage.
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Vern
Dodge Dakota
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11/27/2002
07:09:19
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Green,
I was wondering the same thing as you. I have Champions in my 5.2 with no problem but I see all the rave reviews about the Autolites which makes you wonder. I think I will reuse the Champions and take the attitude "if it aint broke, dont fix it". However, I may try the Autolites cause they are cheap and then make a decision which is the best. I guess your out 1 hr labor and 10$ to find out.....I have 47k on my 99.
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mdandl
GenIII
11/27/2002
07:56:18
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Hey Harlow
good to hear from ya
as a fleet mechanic for over 20 years i've used many different spark plugs, but i find that autolite seems to work the best. I also use them in my daks but i stay with correct heat range and i use platinum tip plugs
I always say use what ever parts that u want
Mike B
1997 Dakota Sport RC V6, Magenta, Dynomax Ultra Flow, K&N, APC Clear Corners, NR White Face Gauges, Mopar Boards, rails, Line-X, and Others to come
2000 Dakota Sport RC V6, Dynomax Ultra Flow, K&N, ARE Cover, Soon to be PLUM CRAZY
NEW TOY 1987 Dakota RC LB V6
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Dr.Dakota
Dodge Dakota
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11/27/2002
13:02:14
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Its real simple....if you are running your Dak at stock temperature (i.e. 190 degree thermostat) run the 5224. If you are running your Dak at the proposed optimal performance temperature of 180 degree (Robertshaw 180, part number GT-755(?) from AutoZone) then run the cooler plug, 3923.
Platinums for the above heat ranges is also good, I have not seen any performance increases with the platinums, so I don't waste my money on them.
p.s. How you doing Harlow...have a great Thanksgiving!
'01 AWD CC, 360AirIntakez, custom cold air deflector/box, IAT Adjuster, optimized TPS, Ported TB, indexed 3923's, 180 thermostat, Mopar HO cams and Intake, 3" custom SS exhaust w/ SS Bullet muffler and 4" SS tip.
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FredDQC
Dodge Dakota
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11/27/2002
15:36:25
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Whatever you do, don't use platinum.I have the same year and size engine and put platinum because they last longer, but I found out my dak didn't like them and what I mean by that is that right after I put the plugs, the truck started to drive rough and erratic idle when cold. I put 3923's because of these posts and they work good. I could not tell you the difference over the champions(originals) I took out because I bought the vehicle with 23,000 miles and replaced them right away, but champions felt just normal.
P.S. If you still wanna go with platinum, let me know and I sell you mine. I only used them for three days. half the price you are going to pay for new!!
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GreenoDak
Dodge Dakota
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11/27/2002
15:48:06
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Thanks for the input. at least i know if I go to Autolites I'll go with the #5224 and stay in the heat range. I haven't screwed with the temp range or anything. There is probably going to be not much difference between the Champs and Autolites, but everybody has their own preference.
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v8dakota
Dodge Dakota
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11/27/2002
18:56:33
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When I got plugs for my 2000 4.7, I got Autolite 3923 as the stock plug. Didn't ask for them, thats what was called for.
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sandman
Dodge Dakota
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11/28/2002
00:59:13
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Platnium DOES NOT = MORE PERFORMANCE
Platnium DOES = LONGER PLUG LIFE
Fine wire Platnium plugs and fine wire Irdium plugs can equal more performance.
Platnium plugs have a much broader heat range then conventional plugs so under some conditions they may very well idle a bit rougher but this same flexability is also what allows them to be self cleaning. The only brand of spark plug that would always foul in my old Ford Tempo were AutoLite Platniums. I tried Bosch and they would not foul at all and I tried Denso and NGK and they also did not foul. I have used mostly AC/Delco and Champion plugs when useing conventional plugs here in the United States and Bosch when useing platnium. In Germany I used mostly Bosch, Denso and NGK.I have never realy experinced any significant difference's in performance other then the negative experince with Autolite's.
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