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FortWorth4x4
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11/07/2002
15:53:31
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I need to know what transmission fluid to use in my '91 Dakota. Its an automatic, and I believe its that A500 tranny.
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R/Truck
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11/07/2002
15:59:03
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ATF+4 Transmission Fluid
Make sure it's that, NO Dexron/Mercron stuff. Amsoil makes a synthetic version that only cost a little more then regular stuff. Mobile 1 and Royal purple do not make ATF for our trannies.
Hope this helps.
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Troy
Dodge Dakota
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11/07/2002
16:13:05
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Redline makes a synthetic too, if your interested in synthetic.
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slick
Dodge Dakota
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11/07/2002
17:56:27
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send the $14 and buy a Haynes or Chilton book and it will pay for itself the first time you use it especially the diagnostic section. I tell this to all new car buyers.
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FortWorth4x4
GenIII
11/07/2002
18:00:27
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Thanks for the responses. Should I use synthetic or not?
I will eventually get around to buying a service manual but I need to know for tonight. This is a secondary vehicle that I dont drive alot.
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Troy
Dodge Dakota
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11/07/2002
18:06:40
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It's really up to you. If you can find ATF+4, it is semi-synthetic and may suit your needs better. It would be a little cheaper, too. The Amsoil/ Redline is around $7-8 a quart.
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sandman
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11/07/2002
22:53:10
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I used Redline C+ and it was cheaper then ATF+4 at the dealership. I bought my Redline C+ Synthetic ATF from www.myoilshop.com I think. It was $1.50 less then dealership. Amsoil is ATF is also about $1.00 to $1.50 cheaper then what dealership wants for ATF+4. The product that Amsoil and Redline make is far supior to OEM ATF+4.
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1Flamed92Dak
GenII
11/07/2002
23:05:44
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The recommended Trans Fluid is Mopar 7176 which is ATF+3 not Mopar 9192 ATF+4 Now they do have a universal trans fluid that is both, some of the Synthetics are Universal.It just pays for proper research before you do your transmission fluid exchange.
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Art
Dodge Dakota
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11/08/2002
04:26:06
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Atf4 supersedes all the other atf`s and atf4 is recommended from the factory for all dodge trannys regardless of age,The amsoil atf works very well in the dodge trannys,and it can be mixed with atf to atf3 with no problems at all
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Dr. D
Dodge Dakota
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11/08/2002
09:57:59
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I use nothing but AMSOIL products and I buy them
at the WHOLESALE (Preferred Customer price).
The AMSOIL Synthetic ATF works like a charm in my
Cheby, Furd and DODGE.
$65.40 per case (plus freight and tax) is what I
paid last time I ordered.
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DakotaEnthusiast
11/08/2002
13:14:30
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FortWorth4x4, (and everyone else),
First I was hesitant to post here as my posts have come under ATTACK by a "member" of DodgeDakotas.com. I think everyone that has gotten to know me here over the last year of being a "site sponsor" knows that I have tried to answer all question relating to Oil, Lubrication, and Filtration ... even if the question was not Amsoil related. If I can help...I try to help.
Unfortunately I am being "FLAMED" by a member with the member name "EyeTrip". Not only does he bash me and Amsoil Products (without ever trying the products himself and doing a professional analysis), he resorts to "under-the-belt" tactics such as calling me (an others on this site) "GAY" and other childish nonsense.
I'm just pointing this out for the benefit of everyone here who has been bashed by "EyeTrip", and to alert you to the fact that he will probably post something derogatory after this post.
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For EyeTrip, a quote from Shakespeare:
"To be, or not to be: that is the question.
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing, end them." --Hamlet, III:1
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Now to get on with business:
Since 1999, due to the special requirements of their automatic transmissions, Chrysler has recommended a unique ATF+4 formulation. In addition, Chrysler has been recommending ATF+4 for ALL previous makes and models of Chrysler Corporation vehicles. The new AMSOIL Synthetic ATF exceeds the performance specifications for Chrysler ATF+, +2, +3, and +4 as well as MS-7176 A, B, C, D, & E; MS-9602 A, B, & C. as well as Ford Mercon or General Motors Dexron III applications.
AMSOIL Synthetic ATF provides outstanding high and low temperature performance and oxidation stability. AMSOIL Synthetic ATF also improves fuel efficiency, reduces transmission temperatures and increases equipment life. The service life of the universal AMSOIL Synthetic ATF is up to five times the service life of conventional ATFs.
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Thank you all for your time, and I hope to be a longterm sponsor of this site.
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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FortWorth4x4
GenIII
11/08/2002
13:41:17
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Thanks guys. Ill get some ATF+4. How many quarts?
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Troy
Dodge Dakota
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11/08/2002
13:52:41
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I have used any where from 4-8 qts. on a filter/ gasket change. A complete flush usually takes about 11 quarts. Just buy 8 and take back what you don't use, if any.
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FortWorth4x4
GenIII
11/08/2002
17:25:58
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Okay, thanks again for all the help.
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terry
Dodge Dakota
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9/25/2004
04:14:36
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I own a 99 dodge dakota cc v6 3.9 liter.I just changed the trans fluid and filter after 78 k miles i used valvoline dexron 3 high mile trans fluid.Is this fluid ok for my trans or do i have to drain it again. it says on container it was universal.Does this high mile stuff really make a difference or is it just a gimmick?
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shue
Dodge Dakota
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9/25/2004
11:14:16
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The problem with the Valvoline MaxLife is that it contains additives that are designed to swell the seals. Chrysler warns you to not put any fluid that contains additives to swell the seal in any of their automatic transmissions.
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DakotaEnthusiast
9/25/2004
11:23:45
| Amsoil ATF - 1999 DODGE TRUCKS DAKOTA 3.9L 6-cyl
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First let me post this:
1999 DODGE TRUCKS DAKOTA 3.9L 6-cyl VIN Code X
AMSOIL FILTERS
Oil Filter......SDF42
Air Filter......TS29
Trans......TF155
AMSOIL LUBRICANTS & FLUIDS
Engine Oil, Grade 1......API*
Series 2000 Synthetic 0W-30 Motor Oil
SAE 10W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
Series 3000 Synthetic 5W-30 Heavy Duty Diesel Oil
Above 0°F......10W-30[1]
Below 32°F......5W-30
Manual Transmission,NV3500.....GLS[2]
SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
Manual Transmission,AX-15.....GL-3
75W-90
Series 2000 Synthetic Gear Lube
SAE 75W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube
Manual Transmission,NV1500.....GLS[3]
SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
Automatic Transmission.....AP4[4]
Amsoil Synthetic Universal Automatic Transmission Fluid
Controlled Slip Differential, .....GL-5*
80W-90
SAE 80W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube
Slip-Lock Differential Additive
Standard Differential, .....GL-5
80W-90
SAE 80W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube
Standard Differential, 7.25-9.25 axles.....GL-5
75W-90
Series 2000 Synthetic Gear Lube
SAE 75W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube
Controlled Slip Differential, 7.25-9.25 axles.....GL-5*
75W-90
Series 2000 Synthetic Gear Lube
SAE 75W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube
Slip-Lock Differential Additive
Transfer Case,.....AF3
Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid
Transfer Case,.....AP3
Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid
Fluids
1. SAE 10W-30 is preferred.
2. GLS is a special gear lube, Mopar part no. 04874464.
3. NV1500 requires: add 0.2 pt. (0.1 Liter) friction modifier.
4. Daimler Chrysler Corp. recommends that all vehicles with Chrysler automatic transmissions be serviced with ATF+4 Automatic Transmission Fluid.
CAPACITIES
Engine, with filter..........4.0 quarts[1]
Cooling System, Initial Fill..........14.0 quarts
Automatic Transmission, Initial Fill..........4.0 quarts[2]
Automatic Transmission, Total Fill
42RE..........10.0 quarts
44RE..........10.0 quarts
46RE..........10.0 quarts
Manual Transmission, NV1500..........4.6 pints
Manual Transmission, NV3500..........4.2 pints
Manual Transmission, AX-15..........6.5 pints
Differential, Front..........3.0 pints[3]
Differential, with 8.25 ring gear Rear..........4.4 pints[4]
Differential, with 9.25 ring gear Rear..........4.9 pints[5]
Differential, with 7.25 ring gear Rear..........3.0 pints[6]
Transfer Case,NV231..........2.5 pints
Transfer Case,NV242..........2.7 pints
1. After refill check oil level
2. With engine automatic transmission operating temperature, shift through all gears. Check fluid level in NEUTRAL and add fluid as needed.
3. Fill no higher than 1/2 to 5/8 inch below fill plug.
4. Fill no higher then 1/4 inch below plug hole.
5. Fill no higher then 5/8 inch below plug hole.
6. Fill no higher then 3/4 inch below plug hole.
TORQUES
Oil Drain Plug.....25 ft-lbs
Transfer case
Fill Plug.....35 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....35 ft-lbs
Manual Transmission AX-15
Fill Plug.....27 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....27 ft-lbs
Manual Transmission NV3500
Fill Plug.....14-20 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....14-20 ft-lbs
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You can REQUEST A FREE AMSOIL CATALOG by clicking below.
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DakotaEnthusiast
9/25/2004
11:27:02
| AMSOIL SYNTHETIC UNIVERSAL ATF - Dodge Dakota
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ATF+4 is the latest version. Dodge realized that their transmissions were weak and they had to reformulate.
Chrysler went from ATF+ (MS 7176B) to ATF+4 in less than ten years. Essentially they were trying to make up for shifting problems in some of their transmissions by "tweaking" the frictional properties of their fluid rather than recalling the affected units. The ATF+4 fluid does seem to have solved the problems with some of the transmissions from the mid 1990's.
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Automatic Transmission Fluids are a thin dino, sythetic or blend "base" oil with anti-foam, anti-oxidation, red dye and other additives, with a very high level of dispersants and little or no detergents.The main difference between one type of ATF and another is the amount of friction modifier additive for control of servo clutch action. Type F contains no Friction Modifier, Dexron/Mercon contaion a moderate amount and Chrysler "ATF+__" contains the most.
The transmission does not get "dirty" inside like an engine, ... but it does need to keep the clutch band particles, etc., from settling and clogging valve, passages, etc. Basically, ATF is a hydraulic oil ... with the specific additive package for transmissions, plus the red dye for identification.
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I know many Dodge owners that have noticeable and significant improvements switching to Amsoil Synthetic Universal ATF. They state that the transmission characteristics are better than when it was new.
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WHY SYNTHETIC vs. NON-SYNTHETIC's or BLENDS ???
In General ... A 100% TRUE "Synthetic" ATF FLOWS BETTER WHEN COLD, DOES NOT GET AS HOT, AND BREAKS DOWN AT A HIGHER TEMPERATURE ... than conventional crude petroleum ATF, and thus SYNTHETIC ATF's HAVE A LONGER WORKING LIFE.
Specifically, ... Amsoil Synthetic Universal ATF
- improves fuel efficiency
- reduces transmission temperatures
- increases transmission life
- provides unsurpassed thermal stability
- and offers up to five times the service life of conventional ATFs
- maximum protection for towing and other severe-duty applications.
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AMSOIL SYNTHETIC UNIVERSAL ATF resists thermal and oxidative degradation up to THREE TO FIVE TIMES LONGER than conventional transmission fluids do. It protects clutches, planetary gears, valves, pumps and seals from damaging sludge and varnish deposits. AMSOIL ATF helps prevent component overheating and ensures cooler, smoother transmission operation.
AMSOIL ATF outperforms petroleum fluids in low temperature fluidity. In fact, AMSOIL ATF offers three times the cold temperature fluidity required by current automatic transmission fluid specifications. AMSOIL ATF provides easier starting, faster warm-ups, smoother shifting and improved fuel economy.
AMSOIL ATF is formulated for EXTENDED DRAIN INTERVALS. Transmissions usually operate under severe service conditions. They are subjected to extensive idling, frequent short trips, cold temperature driving, sustained hot weather driving or trailer towing. When conventional transmission fluid is used, it should be changed every 15,000 to 30,000 miles. AMSOIL ATF should be changed at intervals up to three times longer than the recommendations of the vehicle manufacturer.
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You can REQUEST A FREE AMSOIL CATALOG by clicking below.
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DakotaEnthusiast
9/25/2004
11:30:44
| Amsoil Synthetic Universal ATF - Dodge Dakota
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AMSOIL Synthetic Universal Automatic Transmission Fluid is completely compatible with other synthetic and petroleum automatic transmission fluids. AMSOIL ATF is a universal, multifunctional fluid and greatly reduces the need for specialized fluid inventories and the possibilities of misapplication.
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Amsoil Synthetic Universal Automatic Transmission Fluid.
Recommended for applications requiring the following specifications:
Chrysler ATF+, ATF+2, ATF+3, ATF+4
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AMSOIL Synthetic Universal Automatic Transmission Fluid is a universal ATF designed to exceed nearly all foreign and domestic performance requirements. It improves fuel efficiency, reduces transmission temperatures by 20 to 50 degrees F and increases transmission life. Provides unsurpassed thermal stability and at least 3 times the life of conventional ATFs. Delivers maximum protection for towing and other severe-duty applications. Formulated with synthetic basestocks and the top-of-the-line additive package, AMSOIL ATF provides top performance, durability & efficiency.
Key Benefits to You:
Cleaner transmission components, More efficient power transfer, Lower Transmission temperatures, Dramatically less transmission wear, Smoother cold temperature operation, Long drain intervals, Compatible Applications: Nearly all passenger cars (foreign & domestic), Nearly all light duty trucks (including Dodge Dakotas).
Improves fuel efficiency, reduces transmission temperatures and increases transmission life. Provides unsurpassed thermal stability and up to five times the service life of conventional ATFs. Delivers maximum protection for towing and other severe-duty applications.
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Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
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DakotaEnthusiast
9/25/2004
11:39:04
| Amsoil Synthetic Universal ATF - Dodge Dakota
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Amsoil Customers that are satisfied with Amsoil Synthetic Universal ATF ---
I am going to quote two Members of DodgeDakotas.com, BigBlue QC (He won't mind ... I have exchanged emails with him on a few occassions), and Larry of J and J Auto.
BigBlue QC states:
"I have had perfect luck with AMSOIL ATF in my trans, it has been in the truck for 60000 miles, tested twice, with perfect results each time. Good luck. 14 quarts for a complete flush, another 1-1/2 quarts if you have a 4x4 for the transfer case, which you have to drain and re-fill. You will need a pump for the transfer case to re-fill. If you bought whatever you decide locally why can't you return whatever you don't open??? Having an extra 2 quarts on hand while doing this is not a bad thing as a just in case."
" ... the 14 quarts is with the tranny cooler as I have one also." "... it has been over a year since I changed the transfer case to AMSOIL ATF. I remember filling to the hole level and then buttoning it up. Haven't had any problems with it. I am a preferred customer for AMSOIL (I pay the $20/year to get the wholesale pricing) and I remember it is cheaper to get the bigger jugs of fluid, like 2-1/2 gallons, when you need larger quantities. 2-1/2 gallons is 10 quarts, if you got two of them it should be enough for the trans, transfer case, and power steering. Yes, I have changed the power steering fluid in my truck to AMSOIL ATF also(my year uses ATF+4 as the ps fluid) with no regrets."
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Everyone Respects Larry of J and J Auto
........ correct? ... YES !!!
Here is his quote from another thread (hope you don't mind Larry!)
Larry of J and J Auto stated:
"Amsoil Universal Trans Fluid or the Chrysler ATF+4 are the only fluids we use in these trans at the shop.
I have been running it (Amsoil) in my trans for about 30,000 miles now, made the trans shift smother and run almost 30 degrees cooler. I also run it in my transfer case.
I run all Amsoil even the rear ends and grease it with the syn fortified with molly. Yes I have a trans temp guage in my truck also a nordask Air/Fuel meter on its own o2 so I can monitor my stroker very closely
The Amsoil runs very good in these transmissions."
Larry
J&J Auto
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Thanks BigBlue QC and Larry of J and J Auto!
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You too can switch to Amsoil universal Synthetic ATF by clicking the following link to Request a FREE Amsoil Catalog.
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terry
Dodge Dakota
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9/25/2004
12:47:18
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thanks for the info i should have came here before buying oil i guess.Well next time i will know what brand and type to buy.Sounds like amsoil is some good stuff.I need to ask another question about my trans on my 99 dakota 3.9 v6.When i took the pan off and drained the oil i had black sludge in bottom of pan with very very fine brass shavings in it.Is this bad or just normal wear after 78 k miles?
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