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REKER
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9/23/2002
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Hey, just wanted to see what everyones "Cleaning" Schedule is and to see which cleaners, waxes, tricks etc etc that you have learned over the years. And which products u have found work the best.
mine:
Meguiars EVERYTHING
Meguiars Car Wash
Cleaner Wax
Polish Wax
Carnuba Wax
Scratch X
EXTRA Multi-Purpose Cleaner
Armor All Wipes
soon: Endurance Tire Shine (heard to be the best) and Meguiars Trim Shine (said it removes the over lap when u wax)
In-between washes, i touch up with Meguiars Quick Detail and a MicroFiber Cloth.
I havent YET found a good Window Cleaner. When i used to work for Avis Car Rental, we had some REALLY good stuff. But they dont sell it in stores. Which window cleaners do yall use??
I also want to find a good Bug/Tar remover. Probly going to end up buying the Meguiars Bug/Tar remover. What do yall use??
ROB aka REKER
"Gas, Grass or Ass....... NOBODY Rides for Free!!"
2000 Intense Blue Club Cab
4.7L V8 Auto 4X4
3.55 Gears
Mods: Homebrew Grille, AutoLite 3923s and Cd Player.. TONS more to come!!!!
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Dak03ta
Dodge Dakota
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9/23/2002
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Have you ever used newspaper to clean windows. I find it works best with just about any window cleaner, no streaks or anything.
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Troy
Dodge Dakota
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9/23/2002
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I like the Armor All Auto Glass Cleaner. Works good on inside and outside. Removes bugs good and is safe for tinted windows.
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Will
Dodge Dakota
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9/23/2002
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For cleaning glass go to a local janitorial supplier and get an aerosol glass cleaner works better than anything else I've ever used.
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LiveDakota
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9/23/2002
15:50:36
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For things like the dash and tires i use black magic tire wet. Last really long and gives it a great shine. For the windows i use windex streak free shine with papter towels, no lint or pieces of towel left when im done and it works awesome for me. For washing and waxing i like the carnuba products, been using them for years with great results.
2000 White Sport, Airaid Intake, Clear corners, Euro Taillights,
Bedliner, Autolight 3923's, 8mm accel spiral core wires, 2 10" MTX Thunders, Jensen cd deck, Jensen 400w chrome amp
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sandman
Dodge Dakota
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9/23/2002
15:56:24
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The best glass cleaner money can buy is GM Glass Cleaner in Aerosol Can! I have tried most of the wax's and the two I like best are Zymol and Nu-Finish for wax/paint protection. Tire car Westleys tire bleach and Eagle Tire Wet. I like Armor All low gloss, 303, and 3M vinyl creme for interiors. I use an acid brush for brushing carpet. The tire wet can be used on all trim it is just silicone. Gasoline on a rag will get road tar off and is not hard on paint.
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QuickRacing
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9/23/2002
17:03:38
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I agree with Sandman.. GM is by far the best!
All I can say from a detailers point of view: "Stay away from Armor All!" (Atleast on vinyl).
I works really good at looking good.. but it dries out everything it touches and it seems to attract dust after it's been applied. But I will give that it brings everything to a wonderful shine, But don't use it on tires. The sun makes it bleed, then your tires look bad! I found eagle tire gel to work really well, and for vinyl... GM vinyl cleaner works great!
~This is only my opinion~
Drew
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2THEXTRM
GenIII
9/23/2002
18:41:42
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Anything in a "wipe" like Armor-all products(vinyl protectant, cleaner and window cleaner) sux IMO, if you use it anymore than a few passes it starts to fall apart and leaves pieces/chunks everywhere of the material it is made out of. The product that saturates these tissues aren't worth a dam either and most of it ends up all over your hands. I am all for convenience and gave other "wipe" brands several tries before I was convinced that this is not at a convenience product and cost much more than if you used your own rags. The joker who initially designed and sold this idea is probably sitting on his 50ft yacht with hired detailers that use good-old fashioned rags to keep his boats and cars like new and laugh at him behind his back when he donates them a family pack of his amazing product to use for their business.
A: SPLAT! bug and tar remover just plain rocks for getting off tree sap, bugs and tar with little effort. You can't miss it on the shelf with its flourescent green bottle and big writing that says SPLAT! on the front of it, lol.
b: 3M and Mequiars for all my paint detailing/repairing needs and 303 for everything that is rubber, vinyl or plastic although Mequiars Trim Shine works well for removing the wax residue from trim but doesn't last as long IMO compared to 303 which holds up even after several washings. I use Castle aerosol glass cleaner, safe for tinted windows and doesn't streak all to hell unless you use it when it is cold out.
C: For interior stains, I use Acra-Solv. Works great to remove light to medium stains, grease, oil, gum, etc. Just need to follow it up with a damp cloth to pull out the chemical when your done or do I like I do and soak it down with a spray bottle of water and use a shop vac or Shampooer. For leather I use Eagle One Products, their cleaner/conditioner has worked great for me and is reasonably priced compared to some of the other name brands that can cost two times as much.
Flowmaster cat back, Air Raid w/homemade TB connect, Poweraid TB Spacer, Splitfire Plugs
3 inch body and 1.5 Block Lift, 305 70-16 X-Terrains on AR Terons
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blakdak01
Dodge Dakota
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9/23/2002
18:56:13
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ive been detailing cars for about a year now and i stick to meguiars products, especially the gold class wax. im gonna order zaino pretty soon and try it out. from what ive heard it is by far the best out there
Http://www.streetsourcemag.com/Profile.aspx?profileid=9795
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xplikt
GenIII
9/23/2002
19:09:39
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Newspaper is nice to finish, but for the hard stuff, #000 steel wool ownz windows. NO ONE believes me when I tell them this, it will not scratch. Unless it's all rusted, but otherwise.
I can go off on detailing a lot more later. Everytime I do this with people I pick up a few more tricks, so it's always nice to do this once in a while.
2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
MBRP Single in/out, straight piped 3rd cat, turndown tip
Hotchkis swaybars and springs
Bilstein custom tuned shocks
Roadmaster Active Suspension
Shaved emblems and antennae
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Dakota4
Dodge Dakota
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9/23/2002
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Endurance tire gel works great but does leave build up. I clean it off once a month with wesleys bleach white. For bug and tar remover nothing beats WD40
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Will
Dodge Dakota
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9/23/2002
20:52:59
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http://www.simonizusa.com//dept.asp?dept%5Fid=9
Check out this site they have all kinds of products and IMO work very well, esp. the glass cleaner and the spray shine I use it on my tires and when they get wet the water beads up and rolls off, works good on wheels to prevent brake dust from building up.
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handi2
GenIII
9/23/2002
22:18:39
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Go to www.autodetail.com
I buy allot of stuff from them. The Surbuff buffing pads are the best I have ever seen and used. Use them with the Porter Cable polisher for a show car finish.
Vinylex and 303 are the best. DO NOT USE ARMOR ALL. It will prematurely dry out rubber, vinyl and plactic.
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2002 Quad Cab SLT Plus 4.7 Every Available Option
Access Tonnoue Cover/Bedrug/360 Air Intakez/
180 Robertshaw/Roadmaster Active Suspension
Street Scene Grill Inserts/HO Cams
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John S.
Dodge Dakota
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9/23/2002
23:46:46
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endurance tire jel is the $hit on our dakota plastic mirrors and door handle trim- looks mint, give it a shot.
-John
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MightyDakSXT
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9/24/2002
00:04:12
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I've noticed that Armor All eventually turns your tires brown. I'll never use Armor All again. Is there a product out there that will get the white lettering on the tires white again and my tires black? It's pretty ugly with brownish tires and lettering.
2002 RC SXT, 3.9 Liter V6, 5-spd, 3.55 rear, Extang Tonneau, Autolite 3923 Plugs, Borg Warner Cap & Rotor, Quick D Intake, Modified V8 TB, Gibson Exhaust, Robert Shaw 180° T-stat, Custom Grille, Custom JBA 9mm Power Cables
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Dakula
Dodge Dakota
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9/24/2002
02:08:16
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I use 303 in place of Armor All. A little more expensive but well worth it.
02 CC 4.7 4X4 Sport Plus
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yates-in-DE
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9/24/2002
04:01:58
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PREP FOR: Fender wells and under carriage, EASY OFF Oven Cleaner, Sprayed directly on wait 3 minutes and rinse with pressure washer or garden hose, staying away from aluminum. (Do not get this on your skin, it's heavy with Lye and will blister your skin)
FINISH FOR: Fender wells and under carriage, Son of a Gun in the aerosol cans, (useless for any thing else) Spray it on let it dry, underside of fender wells, frame, rear end housing, shocks, gas tank, springs, spare tire, front A frames and bushings, brake lines, sway bars, every thing underneath, all the stuff the average Joe forgets.
Road Grime: on sides of truck, Diesel Fuel, also removes most highway paint, Wash with good auto wash and re-wax.
Under Hood: good pressure wash regularly, then soak every thing underneath the hood with Armor All. (This is the only place it is any good) Wiping up the big puddles as they develop. ARMORALL has silicon’s in it that stops rubber from getting hard and will keep all the rubber hoses and lines under the hood soft as long as you own the vehicle.
Last truck I owned and shipped over to Germany the Inspector asked if the truck had ever driven thru a mud hole or in the rain. It was 4 1/2 years old and had 55,000 miles on it. It had no underbody rust, or dirt anywhere. All the under side parts still had the factory black color or the kind of brass color some parts have.
MyVW Killer
Lynn
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Will
Dodge Dakota
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9/24/2002
06:33:28
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MightyDakSXT, go pick up some Wesley's Bleach White and a stiff bristle brush, follow the directions on the bottle and your tires will look brand new.
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MightyDakSXT
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9/24/2002
10:56:48
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Thanks Will! I'll have to give that a try. Weather permitting, I plan on giving my truck a good wash and wax job before the fall weather really becomes less-than-cooperative.
2002 RC SXT, 3.9 Liter V6, 5-spd, 3.55 rear, Extang Tonneau, Autolite 3923 Plugs, Borg Warner Cap & Rotor, Quick D Intake, Modified V8 TB, Gibson Exhaust, Robert Shaw 180° T-stat, Custom Grille, Custom JBA 9mm Power Cables
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dan
Dodge Dakota
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9/24/2002
12:53:33
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Westley's Bleach White is great for removing dirt from tires (especially if it has any raised white lettering). But I use 303 Aerospace Protectant for ALL rubber, plastic and vinyl (AWESOME for soft tonneaus). Zaino for the body. Best bug and tar remover I've found is turtle wax. works great and doesn't harm clearcoat or leave blem marks. removes the most stubborn pieces of tar and bugjuice.
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xplikt
GenIII
9/24/2002
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If you don't use a clay bar, you need to. All the work you are doing is in vain if you havn't bared your vehicle yet. If you think you get a good shine now, just use one of these.
2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
MBRP Single in/out, straight piped 3rd cat, turndown tip
Hotchkis swaybars and springs
Bilstein custom tuned shocks
Roadmaster Active Suspension
Shaved emblems and antennae
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MightyDakSXT
GenIII
9/24/2002
13:56:53
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I just bought the Mothers Clay Bar Kit and I hope to use it this weekend. I'd have bought the Zaino products, but I wanted it NOW instead of waiting for the mail to get the check there and the products here. I'll eventually give Zaino a try.
This afternoon I went out to my truck to discover that someone got careless with their door and left a couple half-inch hair line scratches on my driver's side front fender. They're deep. I had some 3M buffing compound in my truck, so I worked on it a little over my lunch hour, but unfornately the deep scratches remain. Is there anything someone can recommend to use on them? A colored wax perhaps? I believe the scratches are through the clearcoat and into the paint. Doesn't look like it went to the metal.
2002 RC SXT, 3.9 Liter V6, 5-spd, 3.55 rear, Extang Tonneau, Autolite 3923 Plugs, Borg Warner Cap & Rotor, Quick D Intake, Modified V8 TB, Gibson Exhaust, Robert Shaw 180° T-stat, Custom Grille, Custom JBA 9mm Power Cables
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Bigdakota97®
Dodge Dakota
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9/24/2002
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the absolute best glass cleaner ive found is EAGLE ONE 20/20, use it on all my wind'rs, and even on my wheels for quick touch ups, u know, for when ur truck is decently clean, but ur wheels have brake dust biuld up on them..? everything i use is either eagle one, or meguiars, and i use dura gloss shine for the dash and door panels. i found that turtle wax tire wax, is good tire shine, and to get in all the grooves of our beloved knobby tires, srapy eagle one wet tire shine inthem, and itll do good, it slings if u dont let it dry long 'nuff thouhg, but thats one reason to keep a soft towel and meguiars quick wax in hand, to clean those big fender flarse some of us have, ne way, i own a very small detailing business, called SHININ' LIKE A DIAMOND® CAR WASH, ttyl.....
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92dakotahd
GenII
9/24/2002
23:45:32
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If you get one of those tire brushes with Westley's Bleche White you won't need tire wet, they won't shine but they'll look brand new. I've got some tires with like 40K on them and they look awesome. Each time you wash your truck just spray them down before you fill your bucket or whatever, give them like 1-2 minutes and spray off, don't let it dry. It can hurt your wheels. But you can watch the crap come off. Awesome. I must suck at windows. I always get streaks.
K&N, '01 wheels, Window Tint, Harley-Davidson badging, red underbody kit, ext.
Window covers, Harley-Davidson mudflaps, custom cat-back exhaust,
head/taillight covers, ventshades side and rear, ram air on the way. Autolite 3923s, 180 T-Stat
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4.7on-nitrous
Dodge Dakota
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9/25/2002
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I HAVE BEEN DETAILING CARS FOR OVER 15 YEARS,AND HAVE NATIONAL CAR SHOW JUDGING EXPERIENCE.
THIS IS WHAT I USE:
1.a window cleaner without ammonia if using on tinted windows.
2.always clean your tires before using a shine product.the cleaner the rubber the better the outcome.i use 50/50 simple green.biodegradeable.
i have tried every tire shine there is.turtle wax tire wax,in a box.comes with applicator.
3.always put shine on with a damp sponge.who wants a mess on your wheels?
4.siple green for the fenderwells.i always use a old bug scrubber pad to get them good.
5.a car wash that will not strip your wax.i like zymol or meguires.
6.always wash top to bottom.do the tires and fenderwells last.use the left over soap and water in a different bucket for the tires.never use the same wash mit for the body,that you use on the tires and fenderwells.
7.always clean around the door,tailgate,and hood.
8.don't use a synthetic sponge.
9.i like to just clean the interior with water/towel.i do not put anything on my dash.
i use a spray cleaner conditioner on leather.
blue coral dry clean carpet cleaner.
10.use a little fine bristle brush on the vents and stereo etc.
11.frebreeze sprayed to freshen it up.
12.do not wax in circles,it makes swirls.
always wax in the shade/garage,with the surface of the truck cool.meguirs/zymol/mothers are great waxes and polishes.
i use mothers polish on my billet wheels.
13.3m adhesive remover is good for tough bugs and tar/gum.will not hurt your finish.
14.meguirs detail spray for a dusty truck.do not use if the metal is hot.then use water/in a old spray bottle!if you do not have good wax on it the detailer spray will smear.
15.100% cotton clothes for polishing
16.sponge type chamois for water removal
17.sometimes i use my leaf blower to get alll the water out from spots i can't reach,it cuts down on drying time.
remember,the amount of effort put in to your vehicle is what the outcome will be.anything used to speed up the process will result in a badly detailed truck.hope this helps a little.
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92dakotahd
GenII
9/25/2002
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How do you apply wax?
K&N, '01 wheels, Window Tint, Harley-Davidson badging, red underbody kit, ext.
Window covers, Harley-Davidson mudflaps, custom cat-back exhaust,
head/taillight covers, ventshades side and rear, ram air on the way. Autolite 3923s, 180 T-Stat
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MightyDakSXT
GenIII
9/25/2002
01:48:50
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You mean that Mr. Miyagi was wrong?!
2002 RC SXT, 3.9 Liter V6, 5-spd, 3.55 rear, Extang Tonneau, Autolite 3923 Plugs, Borg Warner Cap & Rotor, Quick D Intake, Modified V8 TB, Gibson Exhaust, Robert Shaw 180° T-stat, Custom Grille, Custom JBA 9mm Power Cables
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xplikt
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9/25/2002
03:29:05
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You apply it back and fourth going along with the body panels. Most you do it in the shade, but Zaino loves the sun.
2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
MBRP Single in/out, straight piped 3rd cat, turndown tip
Hotchkis swaybars and springs
Bilstein custom tuned shocks
Roadmaster Active Suspension
Shaved emblems and antennae
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REKER
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9/25/2002
15:03:55
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Cool.. i learned a few things. Im going to use the Westleys Bleach White to clean my tires and the 50/50 to clean my windows. Havent decided on what bug/tar cleaner i should get. Prolly the 3M Adhesive Remover.
ROB aka REKER
"Gas, Grass or Ass....... NOBODY Rides for Free!!"
2000 Intense Blue Club Cab
4.7L V8 Auto 4X4
3.55 Gears
Mods: Homebrew Grille, AutoLite 3923s and Cd Player.. TONS more to come!!!!
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4.7on-nitrous
Dodge Dakota
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9/25/2002
16:43:19
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yes,not in circles.mr.miagi was b.s.-ing the kid.
go with the body lines of the vehicle.also,the wax shop glaze is good in cold weather.i waxed mine in the garage with the temp around 40!reg waxes take forever to dry in cold weather,and smear/rollup.
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