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Fred
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9/19/2002
03:26:57
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hi all,
i was wondering if anyone had any ideas of a way to mount a CB antenna in the Radio antenna location. I just want to take out the radio antenna and replace it with the CB's. I dont really like the look of more than one antenna so any help will be greatly appreciated.
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dakota657
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9/19/2002
09:14:14
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I have seen antenas for that plave that go there for a CB. Or also do both the radio and CB, i dont know what it does for the Radio reseption. But they were at a Ham radio store, or try radio shack.
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greengiant13
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9/19/2002
12:15:11
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Hell i just mounted one to the bed of the truck. I run a Galaxy 73 cb.
They dont make my antenna anymore, it is a RF limited Super Penatrator.
Catch me come later!!
Eddie
It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.
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Bryan
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9/19/2002
12:46:54
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I know years ago people could run A set up like you are talking about. using the radio atenna for the radio and CB. Try going to radio shack and see if they still carry the gadget you need to accomplish this.
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Fred
Dodge Dakota
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9/19/2002
15:59:43
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yah ive seen those converters that allows you to use your radio antenna for your cb, but i heard they are not very good. is there any cb antennas that can fit in the radio antenna hole mount? I was thinking of having a cb antenna mount in the engine compartment under the location of the radio antenna, then unscrew the radio antenna and drill out the radio antenna mount to the diameter of the cb antenna. then slide the cb antenna through the factory radio mount into the engine compartment where the cb antenna mount is. so all in all, it will look like its a regular radio antenna but is actually a cb antenna. I know my description sounds funky and is hard to understand. but let me know if you understood that.
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sandman
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9/19/2002
18:01:14
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The best antean for CB/11 meter band is 102" SS Whip. If you can not live with that get a 5' firestick or a Wilson 1000 magnet mount. Idealy if you have anything other then a 102" whip you want at least 3/4 of the antena above the roof line. You realy should not try to butcher your truck to make a poorly designed ant. work. If your idea fails you are left with a big hole in your fender that will not accept the factory antena any more. You can spot a non-OEM antena a mile away!!! If you hate two antean's then get a good magnetic mount like the Wilson 1000. I have tested mine well past 120MPH and it stays on.This way you can take it off anytime yu are not useing the radio.
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tinybaum
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9/19/2002
20:44:51
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Is the MHz on the radio match up to that of the CB. Also what about the SWR's will they be ok. What about if you are running and modified rabio or with a little extra power. I'll stick to my Wilson 1000 and un screw the whip when not using it.
I thought about how mothers feed their babies with tiny little spoons and forks, so I wondered what do Chinese mothers use? Toothpicks?
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b
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9/19/2002
20:57:46
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nips
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hardbody
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9/19/2002
22:51:40
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The wilson 1000 is the best choice for all around cb use including upper and lower channels. It gives a very good SWR reading when set up correctly. True the 102" whip is the exact length needed for the cb range but they can be a pain since they are that long, that's why some antennas have a coil or load midway up in the whip to simulate the length that is lost by using a shorter whip. Avoid ANY antennas from radio shack or any cb to ant converters, just remember you can have the best cb and a crap ant and sound like crap, but using a quality ant and a crap cb will still work better. Personally I think the best way to mount a wilson 1000 is the thru the roof mount that way their's no wire to see and when your not using the ant you unscrew it and put the cap on, drilling a hole almost 3/4" in your roof may be hard to do for some people, I haven't done it yet, so no cb in the dak for me yet. Need any other help e-mail me. HARDBODY is also my cb "handle" good luck
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Fred
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9/19/2002
23:41:02
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Does anyone have a picture of those antenna mounts made specifically for the dakotas? it says it mounts to the inner fender and is invisible unless you pop open the hood. what i am wondering is what will it look like with the antenna on? i wanted to see what it looks like installed
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hardbody
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9/19/2002
23:58:18
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I just found a cb ant mount designed just for the newer style rams and dakotas (gen3) I don't know how to post a link so I'll type in the web address. http://www.alfenterprises.com/dodge_ram_hood_mount.htm This mount looks to be a very good idea no holes to drill either. Check it out plus it's cheap,
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Fred
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9/20/2002
02:32:51
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Hey thanks for the link, it was exactly what i was talkin about. Does anyone have a pic of that mount actually installed onto the dakota? i wanted to see what it will look like with it mounted and antenna installed.
Thanks for the help everyone.
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Wayne
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9/20/2002
09:50:40
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Fred, here are a few pics.
http://users.snip.net/~wsikorski/
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wjco
Dodge Dakota
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9/20/2002
10:08:40
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some cb stores carry an inline plug so you can use your radio antenna as acb antenna and it doesn't interfere with the radio. The only draw back is you cant amplify it.
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Izzy
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9/20/2002
15:18:31
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Waynes link is the closest and best your gonna get for what you are wanting to do.
After running CB's in my trucks for the last few years and then getting a Dakota, I went out and bought the good ole toolbox for my bed and mounted my 2-Watt Curly-Q on it and ran my cables to my "kicker" and then into my truck to my modded RCI-2950. Only real thing I found difficult was finding a place to mount the radio without drilling any holes that show.
How about a few installed CB pics guys?
Worldwide Stinkyfinger in my MudDuck PickUp Truck
RCI-2950
TNT 600 Plus on 18volts swinging just over 1200 watts
RG-213 sleathed in grounded Stainless Braid at both ends
2-Watt Curly-Q Antenna
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Wayne
Dodge Dakota
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9/20/2002
17:16:07
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Izzy, I threw in a couple of pics of the radio and it's little friend. I ended up blocking the ashtray and barely have enough room for the Transfer case shifter to work. The 225 fits perfectly under the CD tray in the console.
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hardbody
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9/20/2002
19:18:45
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Not real sure if it will fit but I tried positioning my sommerkamp radio ( export version of a rci 2950 with extra work done) under the dash right on top of where my cup holder console mounts, ( 2001 dakota) it looked like it would fit I didn't try to mount it yet as I have to get the display fixed first. But a smaller cb such as a cobra or uniden , a PC-66 when peaked will really get out with a good antenna! Also have a rci 2970 but that would probably have to go on the glove box like I had it in my nissan pickup. I talked to Wilson antenna today about the possibility of using that ram/dakota mount with their wilson 2000 trucker ant, for those who don't know what it is it has a rigid base than a coil than a whip on top of the coil. But they said the coil is designed to be above the body so I guess that won't work oh well...
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hardbody
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9/20/2002
19:24:41
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Wayne how far above your trucks roof do those 3' tall antennas stick up? Any reason you didn't go with a 4'? And did you try the thicker fiberglass antennas such as the wilson silverload or firestick 2, I know you mentioned too much noise? Thanks, like I said earlier I think the best thing would be a centrally mounted ant ( mid roof) using a perm mount ( drilling a hole) but it's that drilling into a new truck that stops me LOL
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Wayne
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9/20/2002
19:39:28
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I've got a full foot above the roof, the whole loading coil. I also have a 4' K-40 Power Whip. The larger diam. whips create a lot of wind noise, it's not so bad behind the cab, but out front is a pain. I'm a big fan of the K-40 baseload and would have put one on top, but I just couldn't bring myself to drill a hole in the roof. BTW, the K-40 radio fits between the ashtray and shifter.
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Halo3
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9/21/2002
08:14:42
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Check out:
http://home.attbi.com/~drmr2002/images/DRMR02__139.JPG
I'm running a pair of Firestik's Dodge fender mount (part #MK184R), and a pair of Firestik's 3' antennas. The driver's side is my CB antenna while the passenger side holds my scanner antenna. They are both very clean looking, and do not require any drilling.
Semper Fi,
Halo3
'00 Lt. Driftwood 4x4 SLT DQC w/5.9L
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Fred
Dodge Dakota
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9/23/2002
05:05:09
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halo,
i just ordered the firestik mount and the firestikk II antenna. i was wondering if the reception with the antenna in the mount position is any good?
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foleyr
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9/23/2002
14:56:42
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Dude,
CHeck these out .. this is my setup .
Here are some picts of my cb in the cab .. just mounted it on my custom tool box ( that i made).. did not really care .. but it works .. 3 seperate links .. First 2 of CB other are of the aerials.
http://blackproject.dnsalias.org/images/Dak_pick/P1010153.JPG
http://blackproject.dnsalias.org/images/Dak_pick/P1010154.JPG
Watch .. images are big .. no time to shrink ..
http://www.geocities.com/hybrid54321/dakarials.htm
foleyr .. ..........
“Wise men talk because they have something to say, Fools talk because they have to say something”
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hardbody
Dodge Dakota
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9/23/2002
20:14:52
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Foleyr that setup for your antennas will work ok as long as the antennas are of the no-ground type, or if you run a ground wire from the antenna mount to ground. That tool box looks like it's made of plywood?? If so your not getting a ground thru the ant mount and your swr's may be higher than they should be. Just my 2 cents
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Joe E.
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9/23/2002
21:38:12
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Anyone know where I can get a cb antenna mount that mounts to a 2.5/3 in. roll bar? I need one and cant seem to find it. Thanx
Joe E.
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foleyr
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9/24/2002
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hardbody ..
ya the box is made out of 3/4 plywood .. but the antennas are grounded to the frame with a seperate wire connected to each mount .. i double checked the grounding and it works ..
foleyr .. ..........
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Izzy
Dodge Dakota
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9/24/2002
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I was trying to get away from having to drill any holes in the dash. Since I am sporting an auto, I was thinking of building a bracket that will mount using seat bolts in the center and extending up from below the front center of the seat. Wanted to see other Dak mounted radios first in case someone had already explored this idea and overcame the install.
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jeff kreman
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9/24/2002
13:11:58
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Nice custom box Foleyr. I have a 6" Firestik on the back of my box, and rear facing Blazer lights. I also have a High-lift Jack mounted on the back.
Waiting for my XTerrains!
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Fred
Dodge Dakota
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9/30/2002
22:31:00
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hey all,
i just wanted to let you know that i finished my CB install. i started with a radio shack trc 504 cb and it mouted to the dash with the exsisting screws, no drilling involved (i was actually quite surprised). I mounted a Firestik II adjustable antenna to the Firestik dakota hood mount (once again, no drilling invovled). My CB had PA capabilities so i mounted a weatherproof PA speaker under the hood. Everything came out magnificent with absolutley no drilling. Now all i need to do is get a SWR meter and tune everything nice and clear.
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hardbody
Dodge Dakota
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9/30/2002
23:21:06
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I talked to a fellow dak owner at the orlando meet this past saturday nite ( if 7 of us can be called a meet) he brought something to my attention that was kind of interesting, he has one of those satelite radio tuners in his dak and the antenna is on his roof but what I found interesting is that he ran the cable thru the hole for the 3rd brake light. I removed my 3rd brake light tonight and their's definetly enough room to pass a cb cable/connector thru the factory hole into the cab. I like that idea since you could run a magnet mount antenna and only have to see a small length of coax. The bad thing is my good radio, a rci 2970, won't fit under the dash without blocking the little cup holder console, I had thought about removing the console, making some brackets and moving the console back toward the non-moveable center section of the bench seat, but even doing that the radio still blocks most of the console I don't wish to lose my cup holders. My other radio, an export version of an rci 2950 may fit if the plastic trim under the dash can be removed or cut since the radio is fairly deep, oh well another day and I'll look into it again, congrats on your install fred
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doh
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12/14/2002
16:29:47
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hardbody asked "how far do those 3' antennas stick up above your truck's roof?
"THREE FEET"
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JP
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12/14/2002
20:06:58
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I have a series of pictures (jpeg digital file)showing my CB installation but I don't know how put the photos on the board. Hints? Thanks, JP
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