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stepdogg
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9/09/2002
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Where is the best to buy?? Scanners, C.B.'s, and all that other cool stuff they have???
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REKER
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9/10/2002
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Ford Dealership.... The Mercury Marauder!!! I know its a ford... but hey, its a cool car IMO!
ROB aka REKER
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2000 Intense Blue Club Cab
fully loaded
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Bill
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9/10/2002
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I did a quick search on google and found a site called www.galls.com that has a bunch of stuff. Be careful if you are putting stuff on your truck that may make you look like you are impersonating a cop!!!
Bill
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howdy
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9/10/2002
09:22:39
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I've bought many things from Gall's for work. They are in Lexington Ky. Good reliable company. You can get scanners from your local Radio Shack also!
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xplikt
GenIII
9/10/2002
09:43:53
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Galls rules, I can second them from first hand experience. I bet my truck would be sweet with a lightbar.
2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
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Hotchkis swaybars and springs
Bilstein custom tuned shocks
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Shaved emblems and antennae
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Bryan
Dodge Dakota
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9/10/2002
09:46:19
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be careful what you put in your truck, in some states in is illegel to have A scanner and A CB in A car or truck unless you work for the fire dept. or rescue squad.
someone please correct me if I am wrong, but the police do not like it when people are able to tell where they are at, much less being able to tell others where the police are.
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yates-in-DE
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9/10/2002
09:55:25
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Scanners are only illigal in commercial vehicles, and only 5 states have outlawed Radar Detectors. The best thing for scanners is a bear tracker, and a quad band stealth detector of almost all the top lines are good and if you plan on going a lot of places fast get a CB, keep your mouth shut, (truckers can tell in 3 words that you are an idiot with a radio) and listen to the truck drivers. They are like a large band of brothers, and look out for each other.
Later,
MyVW Killer
Lynn
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Bryan
Dodge Dakota
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9/10/2002
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Thank you yates-in-DE for clearing the air for me about the scanners, And you are correct about having A CB. There is nothing worse than someone stiring up trouble and wasting people's time having to listen to it on the CB.
The CB in my truck has paid for itself several times over.
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Bill
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9/10/2002
10:34:14
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Amen Bryan! I love my CB. If I am with others I can use it to keep in touch with them. Or if I am by myself, I can turn on the trucker channel (usually 19) and listen for any traffic or police problems.
Bill
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Dakota39M
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9/10/2002
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I've had a CB in my truck for years. The only time I took it out was when I was overseas in the Azores and had to because you had to pay an outrageous fee to the local government if you wanted to be legal. There are no laws that I'm aware of restricting the use of a CB in a vehicle of any kind. As far as talking to the big rig drivers, they are a great bunch of guys. I've had one offer to put my truck on his lo boy and haul it to North Dakota for me, another lead me through Chicago the first time I drove out there. Several times when I have need directions or assistance, the drivers have always been very helpful. It also works the other way too. I was on my way home from work last week and I passed a driver with a flat tire on his trailer. This tire was more than flat, it was blown to shreds. I got on the radio, talked to the driver and asked him if he knew about it. He said no and he would get it changed when he got to Dover. He said he was gonna slow down and he thanked me for letting him know about it.
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yates-in-DE
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9/10/2002
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Don't get me wrong guys, truck drivers will respect and talk to you like I or you would converse, but don't try to use Smokey and the Bandit hollywood lingo. Like GOOD BUDDY; Definition:one who goes to town and gets three BJ's and come back and gives you one he!! of a BJ.
It's GOOD NEIGHBOR (this one also has a special definition).
The trucker channel is '19' most every where except I-5 from LA to Sacramento (I-80) it's '15' and north of Sacramento (I-80) to Portland (or Medford OR, I can't remember) it's '21'.
Radar Detectors are illigal in all states in Commercial vehicles, I forgot to post that the first time.
I will not put a CB in any of my rides at all anymore, I hate the damn things. I use Bear Trackers and quad band Radar detectors and old trusty, My Good Vision. And other good folks with flashing headlights to make oposing drivers aware of Speed Traps.
I'm suprised no one asked what the 3 words was, It's 'Hey Good Buddy', and that's the first words out of most folks mouth when they start talking to a truck driver. HA!
Later, Good Hunting and Have Fun,
MyVW Killer
Lynn
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92dakotahd
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9/10/2002
17:05:23
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I always had heard than in nearly every state it's illegal to have a police type scanner in a vehicle. CBs are alright but a scanner which picks up emergency channels is not allowed due to one's ability to evade the police by knowing what they doing and where.
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98FlameRdDak
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9/10/2002
21:05:59
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This is Indiana's scanner law....if you are a Ham Radio Operator (living ONLY in the state of Indiana), you might want to print this and keep this in your vehicle. This piece of paper saved me from having my ham radios confiscated when I was pulled over for a speeding violation.
Mark
To legally carry a scanner on your person or in your car in the state of Indiana, the following applies:
IC 35-44-3-12
Sec. 12. (a) A person who knowingly or intentionally:
(1) possesses a police radio;
(2) transmits over a frequency assigned for police emergency purposes; or
(3) possesses or uses a police radio:
(A) while committing a crime;
(B) to further the commission of a crime; or
(C) to avoid detection by a law enforcement agency;
commits unlawful use of a police radio, a Class B misdemeanor.
(b) Subsection (a)(1) and (a)(2) do not apply to:
(1) a governmental entity;
(2) a regularly employed law enforcement officer;
(3) a common carrier of persons for hire whose vehicles are used in emergency service;
(4) a public service or utility company whose vehicles are used in emergency service;
(5) a person who has written permission from the chief executive officer of a law enforcement agency to possess a police radio;
(6) a person who holds an amateur radio license issued by the Federal Communications Commission if the person is not transmitting over a frequency assigned for police emergency purposes;
(7) a person who uses a police radio only in the person's dwelling or place of business;
(8) a person:
(A) who is regularly engaged in newsgathering activities;
(B) who is employed by a newspaper qualified to receive legal advertisements under IC 5-3-1, a wire service, or a licensed commercial or public radio or television station; and
(C) whose name is furnished by his employer to the chief executive officer of a law enforcement agency in the county in which the employer's principal office is located;
(9) a person engaged in the business of manufacturing or selling police radios; or
(10) a person who possesses or uses a police radio during the normal course of the person's lawful business.
(c) As used in this section, "police radio" means a radio that is capable of sending or receiving signals transmitted on frequencies assigned by the Federal Communications Commission for police emergency purposes and that:
(1) can be installed, maintained, or operated in a vehicle; or
(2) can be operated while it is being carried by an individual.
The term does not include a radio designed for use only in a dwelling.
As added by Acts 1977, P.L.342, SEC.1. Amended by P.L.162-1994
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Jeff kreman
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9/10/2002
21:19:46
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Mark, so what basically does this mean? I must hold one of those positions? Just curios. I am intending to obtain my FCC license anyway, for work purposes.
Waiting for my XTerrains!
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DaveR
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9/10/2002
21:22:11
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Scanners are nearly useless in Delaware. They changed to a burst/ encryption system for all state personel. All I could get after that was tow truck drivers. The scanner did come in handy though for hacking out the campus security freq. at college and avoiding them.
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98FlameRdDak
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9/10/2002
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Jeff,
Since I am not familiar with other state laws on scanner issues, I can not say for sure how the other states look upon this.
As for Indiana....basically it says:
You can LEGALLY carry a scanner if you meet the following:
Work for government agency, ie, police, fire, etc.
Work for utility company, gas, electric, etc.
Work for newspaper service, local news channel, etc.
Have an Amatuer Radio License issued by the FCC.
Also note as well, there is a clause there that states allows you to have a scanner in your home.
In a nut shell, if you rob a bank and are listening to the police on a scanner, you are evading them. You are caught, you are busted.
You also stated that you plan to obtain an FCC licence for work purposes? What type of work? If you are a repeater owner and have a license to operate on a certain freqency that is one thing, but that license does not allow you to legally carry a scanner in your vehicle.
Hope this clears some things up.
On another note, in the state of Indiana...you can not have RED lights on your personal vehicle. The designated lights are as follows:
Blue - Volunteer Fire Department.
Green - Volunteer EMT/Paramedic
Note, if you see these lights in your mirror, please move the hell out of the way. Indiana law does not require you to yield the right of way...but the property or life they are on their way to try to save maybe someone you love.
Red/Blue - Police vehicles.
White or Clear lights - Security Vehicles.
Also note, you can on PRIVATE PROPERTY, such as apartment complexes, have a red light on your vehicle, for purpose of security patrol, but as soon as you drive onto public roads you must have the light removed from vehicle. Excepted notice, the State of Michigan Volunteer Fire Department uses RED lights and are permissable in the state of Indiana. ONLY EXCEPTION.
Also note, you can not have any type of wig/wag lights mounted on the front of your vehicle unless you are a volunteer fire or medic. Wig wags are the lights that alternately strobe back and forth between 2 lights.
YELLOW lights are permitted on any vehicle. Alternating YELLOW strobes are permitted as well. A combination of YELLOW and WHITE are permitted.
Note, most volunteer fire, emt/medics carry some form of ID issued either by the state they volunteer for or the fire department they work for.
So, if you have a blue light on your vehicle and get pulled over by the POLICE and they ask to see your department ID, you'd better have it or else.
There have been several cases in Indiana where vehicles have been impounded because someone was impersonating a medic/fire or police officer.
Again, this is only in the state of Indiana...I am not sure on the laws for other states. If you have doubt, ask your local police department.
I should also point out that a GOOD set up light bars are not cheap. If you can afford this kind of money , plus the cost of impound, court fees and anything else, I would suggest you open a savings account and park your money there. Or spend the money on your DAK.
Mark
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92dakotahd
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9/11/2002
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OK, I'll add my $.02. I've seen on TV that if some areas you can basically have a police car but you just can't use the lights. There was a special where the show(20/20 I believe) bought a caprice and completely decked it out and it was legal just as long as they didn't use anything. ONe the otherhand as a resident of IN my senior year I borrowed a buddies truck for prom and he was volunteer fire dept. He flat out took the light out of the truck due to the fact he said a police officer could ask for a permit if the light was in the back seat. Again my $.02
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Bill
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9/11/2002
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I was under the impression that, like Zach said, that as long as you didn't use the lights, you were ok. Now, by lights I mean if you had strobes in your headlights. If you have a lightbar or some other type of visible light, that may be another story. I know some guys that have the strobes and headlight kits that alternate the headlights. They use them at car shows and other events, not on the public roads, which would obviously be illegal. Again, just my two cents.
Bill
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92dakotahd
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9/11/2002
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Don't get me started on using strobes on the road, I got passed by a car with them running once, I pulled over thinking it was a cop(at night) and saw that it was an older mitsubishi eclipse, if I'd have been in my GF's talon (5-spd turbo) I would have chased him down. That ticked me off.
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Window covers, Harley-Davidson mudflaps, custom cat-back exhaust,
head/taillight covers, ventshades side and rear, ram air on the way. Autolite 3923s, 180 T-Stat
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DakotaCop
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9/11/2002
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FYI- Having a scanner in your car in MN is illegal. Also, Galls is a great store, My dept. uses it alot.
Just to let you know.
Mike
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Drew
Dodge Dakota
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9/11/2002
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Man, where do yall find these laws online...i can't find my TN state laws...
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98FlameRdDak
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9/11/2002
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92dakotahd
it is probably a good thing you didn't. Might have been an undercover police vehicle.
Indiana has some of the sneakiest cops. They use unmarked vehicles from Camaros to Hummers. Heck, 1 state trooper in carmel has a 1995 ford mustang. His car by far has to be the fastest police cruiser in this state.
Mark
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Stepdogg
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9/12/2002
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I started this topic, and well the results are great. Thanx for all the info guys! But i am still wondering what's the best CB? And do cops have any thing else that might be worth obtaining/conteracting??? Could i use my lap-top to my advantage??? Again thanx for all the imput.
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Halo3
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9/13/2002
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A little late, but I've had good luck & pricing from Valco Electronics.
As for some of the rest of the above thread...
Having been a licensing examiner for a number of years, I can concur with 98FlameRdDak--especially in regards to the usage & coloration of lights. I had to learn a good portion of each state's vehicle codes & guidelines to ensure the compliance of our military vehicles while operating in different states. Many states seem to adhere to the same basic laws & limitations. The only one that I would contest is with the white & yellow strobes, as many states have laws that limit their usage to construction, utilities, maintenance, and recovery vehicles, vehicles that exceed certain D.O.T. thresholds in height, width or weight, and vehicles whose primary function is for security.
Semper Fi,
Halo3
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98FlameRdDak
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9/14/2002
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Halo,
just wonder why the military has to follow the rules for each state? After all, if I saw a camo hummer running down the highway with lights flashing, I would get the hell out of the way.
Mark
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98FlameRdDak
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9/14/2002
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Stepdogg
While I realize you started this thread, it is usually a good idea to ask about laws so you don't see your small fortune go down the tubes when you get busted and have your stuff confiscated. You know what they say...
Ignorance is no excuse for the law....or something like that.
Mark
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Halo3
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9/14/2002
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heh...part of the duality of the military's nature.
In any kind of emergency or war-time situation, all rules go out the window. However, in normal day-to-day operations, we have to at least attempt to abide by the traffic laws for our host state in order to "blend in."
Semper Fi,
Halo3
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92dakotahd
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9/14/2002
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LOL! Blend in?? There is nothing like watching traffic rubberneck at the site of those big military trucks and Hummvee's zinging by in nothing but shades of green and black. That's kinda funny. I wouldn't worry about it. It's hard to get a convoy to blend in.
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Window covers, Harley-Davidson mudflaps, custom cat-back exhaust,
head/taillight covers, ventshades side and rear, ram air on the way. Autolite 3923s, 180 T-Stat
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yates-in-DE
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9/14/2002
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Stepp Dog,
CB's are CB's, most 40 channel units will do the trick. The main concern will be the antenna. I suggest a WILSON 2000 Ball with and 18" shank. Mount it right behind the cab, dead center, making sure the ball clears the top of the cab, or within about 4". Also take it to a repital local CB shop (theres one at every truck stop nearly) and have them set the SWR's (Standing Wave Ratio). They have meters for doing this and usually don't charge ya but $5 to do it. And if you buy the antenna from them usually FREE.
I wood suggest for a CB that you get a UNIDEN PC66. They are good little Units and aren't as big as a house. They are usually priced around a $100, and about $70 for the WILSON 2000, and about $25 worth of hardware.
Good Luck,
MyVW Killer
Lynn
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Halo3
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9/14/2002
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Given the limitations, I went with a Cobra 75WXST. They are handy little units--requiring virtually no interior space. The connections for the antenna & power are made to a small box (approximately 1"x1"x4") that can be mounted just about anywhere. The handset carries all of the controls typically found on the "base" unit...channel up/down, squelch, etc.
In my case, I mounted a Uniden BCT-7 BearTracker scanner just below the cigarette lighter & auxilary power outlet, and mounted the 75WXST's power box underneath the center seat. Both power & antenna cables were easily run along the firewall from the passenger side, under the carpet and center console. There was even a die-cut opening in the carpet underneath the seat...so I didn't even have to mess with that.
As for antennas & mounts, I went with products from Firestik. Their Dodge fender mount kit (part #MK184R) uses the back fender bolt (closest to the windshield) to secure a small bracket that fits in the space between the fender & hood. The kit includes 18' of cable and the other assorted components needed to mount an antenna. The other bonus, is that you can bolt this mount onto either side of the vehicle, or like I did, one on either side.
I complimented these mounts with a pair of Firestik's medium duty springs, and a pair of 4' antennas...one for the CB (part #FS4-B) & one for the scanner (part #MSM-3-B).
The entire setup has worked quite effectively. With absolutely no intimate knowldge of CB's & scanners, I have successfully installed, tuned ($30 SWR meter from Radio Shack), & out-ran a few people that have spent considerable amount of time & money in "tweaking & peaking" their systems.
Semper Fi,
Halo3
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jeff kreman
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11/04/2002
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Anyone here have a Ham Radio setup in thier truck? Has anyone taken the test, and if so how hard is it? Pics of your setup would be cool!
Run your fingers over my truck, and I'll run over your fingers with my truck!
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