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OffRoadRuss
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7/17/2002
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I was wondering what you use to detail the interior surfaces of your DAK's... Ie the dash and center console/arm rest.
I refuse to use armorall and have been just wiping down the interior with a damp towel for the last year. I saw reference to the www.303products.com Aerospace protectant and that seemed like the right stuff to use.
I dont want it to be shiny, but it definitely needs something...
HELP !
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dan
Dodge Dakota
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7/17/2002
11:38:23
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stick with the 303. Damp towel works good too but if you want UV protection against plasticizing then 303 or something like that would be ideal.
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Nitro Junkie
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7/17/2002
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The best stuff is meguiars natural shine. It wont dry out your dash like armour-all will. I is also not as shiny and greasy like otherproducts.
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forexfour
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7/17/2002
15:12:55
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I use all Zaino products.! I tried it once and will use nothing else.
www.zainobros.com
I order the products as I run low.
The interior cleaner works by squerting the liquid on to a damp sponge. After applying you wipe it with a towel. The more you apply the shinier it gets. Since you wipe with a wet sponge this cleans deeper. Not greasy or shiny unless you want it to be.
Also the Ultra high gloss spray is Awesome. Use this instead of washing. I wash only a couple times a year with water the rest I use the car duster and the spray, Unless of coures I go out muddin, then I have to pull it up on the lawn and give it a thorough washing.
I love Zaino products!
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Bluethunder
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7/17/2002
16:31:58
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I like to take a little Mobil 1 syn oil (10w-30 works best) pour it on a clean terry towel and wipe it on..
ok, seriously...i use this stuff i get a local detailing supplier called perfect 10...just spray it right on, wipe lightly with a towel and your done...gives a nice shiney finish but is not greasy
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intimidator
Dodge Dakota
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7/17/2002
22:36:09
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Lexol Vinylex or 303. Both have UV protection...Lexol-Medium shine non greasy (nothing like armor all). 303-more of a matte finish (factory finish).
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Dak95
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7/18/2002
14:58:09
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Zaino is good, but I like the Aerospace 303 best!
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Mikey
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7/18/2002
17:29:09
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whats wrong with ARMOR-ALL?
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sandman
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7/18/2002
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I currently use low gloss Armor All. I have tried just about all of them and did not see any real difference. Armor All, 303, 3M, Lexhol all worked ok. I liked 3M vinyl cream the best but cost and availability were issues. The same goes for the others. I had to order all of them. I can get Armor All any place. Armor All does have UV protectents but alot of products have more. I tried 2001's product and it was too greasy. Dura Shine makes a good product also but it also cost alot more. My only complaint with Armor All is that it does not last long enough. What is wrong with Armor All?????
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Mikey
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7/18/2002
18:09:59
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Exactly sandman, what is wrong with armor all???? what makes the other products better than armor all?
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forexfour
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7/18/2002
19:15:39
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I think the original post asked what do YOU use. So we posted what we use. Everyone has an opinion and what they thinks works better. No one down graded Armor All. If you like the way it works and protects use it. Know one said it sucked or anything just that it tends to dry out your dash. If you guys do not have this problem then use Armor All. That is all I used til I found something I thought was better for my needs. I never heard of the 303 stuff but I went to the site and checked it out and I may try it. I think the original post was a good question and got allot of good responses. Once again I have learned of a new product that I should try.
Take the info if you need it. If someone dogs your preffered product then back it up with a response of why you like it.
I agree that Armor All dries the dash, is greasey, to shiny. IMO it does not protect well either.
FXF
Post why you like the Armor All that is all the originator wanted to know.
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Mikey
Dodge Dakota
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7/18/2002
19:24:38
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I just want to know the cons of armor all thas all.
you say that it dries out the dashboard, but or dakotas have plastic dashboards, so it cant really dry it out right?
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Bob W
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7/18/2002
20:28:10
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Wrong! Plastic can and will dry out, get hard, crack, etc, there are plastisizers in most plastics that will leach out after time, UV rays and heat will accelerate the leaching. If there are any bass fishermen out there platisizer leaching is the reason the rubber worms (soft PVC) melts the plastic hook boxes and other things in your tackle box. Woo that turned in to a long-winded more than you needed to know post.
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handi2
GenIII
7/18/2002
21:20:03
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Armorall and like products contain silicone and flourocarbons that will prematurely dry out dashes and plastic parts.
All detailers that I have talked to at car shows have said that any products containing silicone are bad.
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Rjay
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7/19/2002
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I use Griots Garage Interior cleaner, 35oz is $9.95. Great stuff, cleans well, is not greasy, and leaves a very low gloss shine. All their products are great, check em out at www.griotsgarage.com
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Abercrombie
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7/19/2002
05:09:20
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Where can I buy the 303 products from?
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dan
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7/19/2002
08:04:33
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Just an added note about the plasticizers. Also, you know that hazy film that accumulates on the inside of your window? Well that's from the plasticizers breaking down. Not only does this dry out your dash, it will eventually crack. You're right, Armor All may look decent and appear to be fine now, but later on you will see the effects. This not only applies to Armor All but to all silicone based products. But like "4x4" said, use what you like. We are just trying to help by explaining the cons of using silicone based products. We all love our Daks, and yours too and would hate to see it get ruined.
Abercrombie - you can buy 303 right from the manufacturer but you pay shipping. It's cheaper to find a place near you that carries it. Check their website. I think they list businesses that carry it in different areas. I get mine from a Truck Accessories Shop about 25 miles from my house. It's a good 35 minute ride but worth it.
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handi2
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7/19/2002
09:11:21
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Most nationally advertised over the counter silicone oil based products do not usually contain UV protectants and the silicone oils may act as a magnifying glass, intensifying the UV degradation. Silicone oil may also dissolve the essential oils in the vinyl skin, hastening the premature formation of cracks in the vinyl skin. A quality cleaner/dressing product will contain a UV protectant and essential oils to replace lost oils from the vinyl. These protectants are very expensive, so the K-Mart specials may do more harm than good. Silicone oil also has a very strong electrostatic attraction which may be considered beneficial in that it will tend to stay where it is placed, but will also attract every dust particle in the surrounding three counties. Many nationally advertised Vinyl products also contain formaldehyde. As you can imagine, this is not particularly beneficial to the vinyl.
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fourgivn1
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7/19/2002
09:15:29
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In a completely unrelated topic, formaldehyde is often mixed w/beer overseas to keep it longer. Yum! *L*
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dan
Dodge Dakota
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7/19/2002
11:32:46
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TRUE TRUE TRUE - Armor All is a dust magnet. Don't like the greasy feel either.
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sandman
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7/19/2002
11:36:36
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fourgivn1, While you are right some country do that I just want to make sure that everyone is aware that Europeans do not do this. Germany for instance has strict purity laws for it's beer and the beer is still alive when they bottle it. Nothing but pure water, yeast, malts, hops, sugar and natrul spice can go into it. South East Asia and third world countrys tend to add formaldehyde to keep beer fresh in the abscence of refer.
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sandman
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7/19/2002
11:42:28
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Thanks guys I did not know that silicone was bad for dash!! I had no idea that their were essential oils in PVC/vinyl. I will switch once my Armor all runs out!
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Forexfour
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7/19/2002
12:02:45
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I still have 1 bottle full bottle and a little left in another of Armor All. I now use it for the wheel wells to clean them up. Works great in there and makes weekly wipe downs easier. But once it is gone no more. I have been using the Zaino since last October. I am gonna try the 303 stuff as well.
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Nick
Dodge Dakota
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7/19/2002
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I've been using 'Mothers Back-to-Black'. Works wonders. Works on all colors, all materials, doesn't leave a greasy film, a low gloss shine, doesn't seem to attract dust and doesn't film up the windows - and lasts! But I have no idea if it's a silicone based product or not :(
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dan
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7/19/2002
13:21:49
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Just another thought. Liquid Glass makes a product called connisseur's choice that is for interiors and contains mink oil. I am not aware of any detriments of mink oil though.
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