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Butch
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3/26/2001
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Just took delivery of my 01 SLT. Whats the general thought on rustproofing/undercoating. Is it worth having done. I've read articles that go both ways. Some say because of the metals being used today it's not necessary and others say it will help. Just looking for your opinions. Thanks
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Kenny
Dodge Dakota
8/25/2001
01:48:08
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I read once that rust proofing is no good. After a while the rust proofing cracks allowing rock salt to get into the cracks a lay there to eat out your metal. Most manufacturers warrant your car or truck for 7 years on rusting anyway.
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DarkFury
Dodge Dakota
8/25/2001
02:07:22
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Well... personally, I have both of my vehicles "rustproofed" through Ziebart with a "lifetime" guarantee...
Where I am... the Winters are rough and the DOT drops some serious salt on the road to keep the ice from making driving impossible...
There are so many "rust buckets" out there that don't have rustproofing that it would be almost stupid not to do it... especially if you plan on keeping the vehicle rather than leasing or selling in 3 - 5 years.
Now if you don't live in areas that get regular snow... then you might be able to get by without it...
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sandman
Dodge Dakota
8/25/2001
09:46:28
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I have a 1986 Toyota 4runner that has survived here in michiagan with allmost no rust. The areas that I undercoated look just like new. The only place it has rusted is in front of rear wheel opening and that is from a stone chip in the paint. The under coating does for the underside of your truck what a spray in bed liner does for you bed. If you are going to undercoat you should either use a non hardening rubber fiber/ashphalt mix or sometin g like Texaco grease. If you live down south you will notice that alot of toyotas will ooze this greenish yellow stuff that has a consistence of snot. This is Texaco grease. It is also what places like Ziebart normaly use. Galvined steel and the ALPO(looks like semi-gloss black primer on new unpainted panels) coating that GM uses on their panels is only good as long as it stays on the pannel. If a stone hits it and chips throught to bare metal you will get rust. It is very hard to chip through undercoating because it stays flexable.
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KCDak
Dakota Enthusiast
8/25/2001
10:09:29
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How much does this usually cost to have done?
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Jason
'00 Sport Quad 4.7L 4x4 3.55
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DarkFury
Dodge Dakota
8/25/2001
10:35:52
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Well... depending on new vs. used status... it differs (also the warranty differs).
You may want to call you local Ziebart (or other "vehicle detailing/protection" detailer) to get a specific quote.
Personally, my rustproofing cost me around $329, but since it was part of a "package deal" I'm sure that was a discounted price...
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DarkFury
Dodge Dakota
8/25/2001
10:37:21
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Oh by the way... I forgot... if all you want is JUST the rustproofing... then it might be somewhat cheaper than that... maybe under $200...
However, since I wanted the "sound deadener" treatment too, that cost extra...
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sandman
Dodge Dakota
8/25/2001
12:44:06
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If you do it your self one to two gallons of rubberized under coating will do the whole vechile. All you need then is a brush. You can buy it at PEP Boys and other automotive parts stores. It is kind of silly to pay someone to do an under coating job for you. You realy should not need to spray between the pannels if this vechile is a newer one. The undercoating will deaden alot of raod noise.
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Dave
Dodge Dakota
8/26/2001
00:37:42
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I wouldn't get my vehicle rust proofed. Where I work, we rust proof them all the time (atleast 3 a day) but, as someone already stated, with the newer vehicles, rust isn't really that much of a problem being that they're making them better (in my opinion).
The only thing I would reccomend is to get it undercoated. Don't necesarilly do the whole underneath (rearend, diff, frame) just spray it on underneath the bed where salt and road grime collect -- the frame and all that other stuff is strong (in my opinion) and doesn't need it.
My previous truck was a 93 Ranger in which I undercoated the whole thing because trucks look nice when everything underneath is black -- on my 01, everything is black ... so what's the point -- when it gets discolored, maybe I'll do it then.
- Dave
- 2001 Dakota 4x4 SLT
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Bruce P
Dodge Dakota
8/27/2001
20:44:47
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DO NOT DO IT
Here in Vermont they use copious amounts of road chloride to melt the snow.
If you read the rustproof warantee carefully, you will find it only gaurantees against RUST THROUGH. (HOLES IN METAL)
By the time even an UN-rustproofed car gets HOLES in it...it is well beyond any warantee.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS LIFETIME WARANTEE AGAINST RUST! Most of those companys will conviently go out of buisness before you can make a claim.
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DarkFury
Dodge Dakota
8/28/2001
00:23:00
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Well.. Ziebart has been in business for many, many years.... Personally, I feel that you can trust them.
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BMac
Dodge Dakota
8/28/2001
11:59:16
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What about Rust Check?
After a vehicle has been undercoated, it is so nice to work on it because the nuts and bolts come apart much easier.
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CharlieG
Dodge Dakota
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3/14/2004
11:08:09
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Well it has been a very harsh year here in the Northeast with lots of snow and therefore lots of salt on the roads. I've noticed rusting underneath my truck and wanted to bump this thread for advice. Speaking of BMac's prior post, has anyone ever tried to DIY on some areas of the truck with those aerosol cans of Rust Check or similar products? How do I clean it first? how do I prep before applying? Etc? Etc? Etc? i don't want to wait until next Winter before I start preventive action!
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3/14/2004
11:49:52
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Well, I live in NYC (Manhattan) and commute to New Jersey M-F, so I know your pain.
Personally, I spend my money on a truck wash, as I think keeping the truck clean in Winter helps keep rust from forming. If the salt is only on the truck for a short period of time before being washed away --- it doesn't have enough time to attack. Also, if your truck is parked outside, the extreme cold prevents the salt from attacking your vehicle, since you need heat and moisture in order for rust to form.
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papertrucker
Dodge Dakota
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7/09/2007
07:57:09
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Even in Florida rustproofing is a very good idea.Just living near the salt water cars and trucks get a salt film on them.Regular washings are a must or you will get undercarraige rust and rust from pits in paint manly from the love bugs.These bugs have acid in there bodys that will eat through paint if not washed off
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GRETCH
Dodge Dakota
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7/12/2007
05:20:34
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One area thats prone to rusting up a lot is a lip that runs along the bottom of the frame, under the doors from the back of the front wheel well to the front of the rear wheel well. On every dakota I've seen, it's an issue. My fix to it was to have Chipguard heavily applied to that area. The truck is two tone, blue and silver, I had Chipguard applied to the lower silver area around the truck, costed 400.00 for the body shop to do it. The Chipguard could be applied clear or mixed with paint to match color.
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Pugs
Dodge Dakota
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7/12/2007
10:37:01
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Up here in Canada, you most likely need some sort of rustproofing from the factory. I'm going to start having my Dak under oiled this year. Better then the rustproofing as the under oiling will creep into cracks, etc. as well as lubricate bushings, prevent electrical connection corostion and the such. The thing is that this has to be done every year, but well worth the $$ as your ride will live a lot longer and as someone said above, easier to work on when bolts aren't rusted to the parts.
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Por
Dodge Dakota
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7/18/2007
21:24:44
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Por.com
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Bob Lincoln
Dodge Dakota
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7/19/2007
08:42:14
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Eastwood products are better than POR-15.
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