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kennungesser
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5/15/2002
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O.k , in about 2 years , we are giveing our 1992 Shadow to our son.I had my heart set on the Sub WRX , but to be fair , we drove some others today.
First was the Mazda MP5. Kinda cool , rode and handled VERY nice. The wife liked the look. Me? I don't know , it could grow on me.
Next was the Toyota Matrix....YUC!!!! Ugly , no guts , and handled like a brick! Did not like it at all. Neather did she.
Last was the Honda Civic SI. What a ROCKET!!! That thing flat out gets up and MOVES!!! Looks strang , but to drive it is to love it. 160 hp , in a VERY small car.
Will drive the Sub WRX tomarrow....I hope it handles 1/2 as good as the honda , 'cause I love the looks of it.
To bad Dodge Neon (at least now) doesn't have thaat kinda of HP. But I have heard of a 200 hp one comming out soon......
Kenneth l Nungesser
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blueballs
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5/15/2002
16:44:48
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try the nissan sentra se-r v spec. 175 or 185 hp and lots of low end for a rice cake.
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Clevite 77
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5/15/2002
16:45:34
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srt-4
go for the neon
2.4L s/c
I do like the looks of that, blue wrx, the one on the comercial. I guess they run mid 14's from the factory and with a little turbo tweeking you can really get that thing moving. but at the same time I'm sure the'll have kits for the s/c neon.
I think it's a 2003 model, but don't quote me on that.
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blueballs
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5/15/2002
16:55:16
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If your looking for mod freindly go with the honda. The parts fall off the trees. My girl has the nissan senta. Stock vs stock it will pass a rc 01 auto 3.55 3.9l in the quarter and it is not the se-r v spec. Another is the Acura RSX 200 hp.
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DaveR
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5/15/2002
16:56:33
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The Mini S comes out on the 20th of this month i think and it is 160hp supercharged in an ultra light car. Good luck finding one though.
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blueballs
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5/15/2002
17:07:26
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the sentra se bla bla is 175hp w/180tq
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sandman
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5/15/2002
20:34:19
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The Subaru WRX will blow you away. They are poping up like Daisy's here in Mi.
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handi2
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5/15/2002
20:34:40
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Go with the Honda for reliability and resale value. With regular maintanence they last forever.
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xplikt
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5/15/2002
22:05:43
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You can not go wrong with the soobie! The manuals are rated at like 14.1 stock, brand new, this was C&D who tested it. With a few home modifications and and uppie (up-pipe) you can bring max boost down to mid 2000s easy. Those are just simple mods. Lets not forget they have AWD...I wish I had AWD.
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kennungesser
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5/15/2002
23:05:59
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I'll let you know what I think when I drive it. They are calling for rain , so I'll be able to really put the awd to the test!!
Kenneth l Nungesser
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Jonathan
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5/15/2002
23:25:32
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Im laughing that nobody brought up the bran new Nissan 350Z, now this is BADAZZ!!!!!!!, 350 stock hp!!!, I saw it personally at the Atlanta International Auto Show, and you can order them now!
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kota on 20s
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5/15/2002
23:33:18
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i'd rather have the WRX!....or the mini! that thing is BAD ASS!
Eric, 98 5.2 5speed, K&N gen II, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, JBA ciramic headers, carsound cat, dumped gibson, and a lot more
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Wiley
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5/16/2002
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The new 350z has about 280hp or so, i've seen quite a bit of info on it. Actually I have a set of "Z" playing cards that nissan sent out a few months ago. I just signed up for some info on their website and they sent the pack of cards. They are pretty nice the cards have info about the new car and some fact about the old school ones too.
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Dak-five-oh
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5/16/2002
03:18:45
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Also you might want to look around for the new mitsubishi Lancer EVO VII it is turboed all wheel drive version of the lancer and has like 276hp and will run the quarter in 13.1 (estimated) the only problem is they are not out in the US yet, but they should be at some point in the next year
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kota on 20s
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5/16/2002
03:23:34
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yea but its ugly.. i will be the 1st to admit the WRX is no pice of art, but it looks better IMHO. the sub sts (or whatever) is comming too. 275 hp and a 6speed. can be easily modded to run 12's
Eric, 98 5.2 5speed, K&N gen II, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, JBA ciramic headers, carsound cat, dumped gibson, and a lot more
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Douglas
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5/16/2002
06:35:39
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If you liked the Civic Si, you are going to love the WRX. you can throw that thing all over the place and not get yourself into trouble with it.
I agree with Jonathan and Wiley. If you have some more cash to spend go for the Z. Great Looking car with a great history behind it.
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kennungesser
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5/16/2002
08:30:38
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O.K , I go right by a Nissan dealer on the way to the Sub dealer. I think I'll check it out. Is the EVO out yet? Go by a Mitsi dealer also...
Thanks for the tips guys! Keep 'em comming!!
Kenneth l Nungesser
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QwikKota
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5/16/2002
09:28:33
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The Subaru WRX is one sweet ride. I wasn't wowed by the body roll aspect of its handling but it stuck well and while under power in a tight turn, you could really feel the AWD do its magic. Just don't back off the throttle mid-corner, you will be seeing sideways. The boost is smooth and very linear. On a test drive with 2 passengers I rolled up on a new Stang GT and dropped it in 2nd and toasted him as he tried to romp on his V8. That little beauty can move. 5.5secs 0-60, massive clutch drop involved tho. They are 14 psi at stock trim, so chipping them is not gonna get you much, but as far as aftermarket turbos and parts, you can have as much fun as your wallet will allow. Don't get the 17's from the dealer, they are a rip off, and try and find one with a spoiler, most dealers have had the add on spoilers recalled and it looks goofy with out it. My buddy has a silver one in Phoenix and with the roads out there he loves it. Highly recommended by a car nut.
Grady
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Halo3
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5/16/2002
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Before I bought my QC, I was thinking of keeping my Ranger & getting a car. With that in mind, I spent a lot of time car shopping. One of the cars that impressed me the most was the Acura CL Type S. At ~260HP this thing will flat-out MOVE!!
Obviously, I ended up getting my QC, but ever since then, I've been thinking of picking one up as a secondary vehicle.
Semper Fi,
Halo3
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YJ
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5/16/2002
13:40:23
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I agree with Halo3. I test drove a pearl-white acura cl type S. Loaded, with leather, Bose, and Navigation, it was around 28 grand. Had the manual and automatic shifting on the stick. But I went with the QC. ; ) The acura is a nice car. The wrx and neons are fast vehicles but they look like toys I could pick up and wind. I guess to all his own! ; )
YJ
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kennungesser
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5/16/2002
15:50:26
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O.K Drove some others tody,
First was the Sub Impereza (0nly one WRX on the lot , and that was sold) Nice car. still NOT the WRX.
Next was the Sentra Type RS. Nice , 6speed , but after driving the Sub , not much diff between the two.
Next , and BY FAR the best , believe it or not was the VW Jetta GLS 1.8T (turbo). Made EVERYTHING else look and feel like a TOY!!!! This car was the best I have driven in a LONG time in any price range!! Pulls hard in about any gear , vety fast , and quick of the line. May not be as fast as the WRX is, but for 4 to 5 grand less , I think its mine!!! The Sub Impreaza was around 17,000 , the WRX goes around 26,000 , but the Jetta was going for 21,000 with most of the goddies , and one heck of a warranty!! , Lots better than Subaru. The search may be over...but I have a couple of years to go!!
Kenneth l Nungesser
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xplikt
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5/16/2002
16:08:58
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Didn't look at any Audis?
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kennungesser
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5/16/2002
16:35:37
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I looked at them , but not real close. Are they in the same price range? I don't wanna go over 21-22,ooo I dont think the wife likes anything over that. After lookin at the VW , she doesn't even like the price of the WRX.
Kenneth l Nungesser
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YJ
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5/16/2002
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Loaded Audi A4 with base motor but fairly loaded interior, runs for around $27K up here in Worshington. ; )
Good luck on the car hunt. Maybe wait for that supercharged neon srt-4???
YJ
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kennungesser
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5/16/2002
20:46:35
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Does anyon know how much the neon srt-4 is going to cost? Ball park?
Kenneth l Nungesser
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FastRT6dakota
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5/16/2002
21:26:27
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I was about to be original and mention the Audi A4, but then someone else did. Good call. That car is quick for what it is. The A4 quattro with the turbo 2.0 and the tiptronic trans is sweet!!! I work with 2 guys that have them. Of course, I can get it for $350/month for a 1yr/unlim mileage lease. BTW, I work for a company owned by Audi, so don't kill me about the price. I think YJ was right though, they can run you anywhere from 24K way up past 27K. Nice cars though.
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kota on 20s
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5/17/2002
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isnt the 1.8L turbo VW ratted at 150hp? the wrx would kill that, and AWD to boot....but it is more expencive, and i do agree the jetta looks nicer (expeciall with the 17's)
Eric, 98 5.2 5speed, K&N gen II, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, JBA ciramic headers, carsound cat, dumped gibson, and a lot more
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Dan Gruber
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5/17/2002
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VW's 1.8T was at 150hp for 2001. For 2002 it got bumped to 180 in the Jetta and Beetle, 170 in the Passat. Great engine, but not in the same league as the WRX.
VW's are sweet cars...very smooth, refined, and the interiors are the nicest on the market for under $30K. Only problem with VW is that the stock springs, shocks, and roll bars are WAY too soft, no matter what model. That's an easy fix.
Say it with Krylon!
Dan
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kennungesser
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5/17/2002
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The salesman gave me a web site to check out after I showed him my truck , and the homemade intake I made. Its www.vwvortex.com and has some cool looking things on there. Not as good as this one , and I couldn't get to the forums,but they had a nice looking red Jetta.
I had forgot to mention that I had the truck detailed at a detail shop. All winter I had just taken it through a brushless carwash,so it was in dire need. They usued a professional buffer , did all the trim and tires , even did the exhaust tip,cleaned and shampooed the carpet,and cleaned the engin bay. All for $160. Lookes great , and gives me a fresh plate to start on when I start washing and polishing her up the Spring!!
At every dealer I went to , you could just SEE those guys salivating over the Dak , hoping I was trading it in!!! When I told the Homda guy I wasn't , he looked like he just dropped his icecream cone!!hehe.
Kenneth l Nungesser
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