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PaulQuad01
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3/21/2001
22:48:52
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Just purchased a '01 Quad with 4.7L. I love the truck! I've only put about 300mi on it so far. It has a strange quirk already though. Cold start in the morning (stays in garage)is fine, idle is fine, no problem. I park in a parking garage at work, which is about 6mi away. When I leave in the evening to go home, it starts fine, idles fine, then when I put it in gear it nearly stalls. This has be a daily occurance. Anyone else experience this? Is it something that will go away? Maybe the short drive has some affect?
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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Blckdak
GenI
3/22/2001
11:02:08
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There's a heading in the Recall & TSB forum, its called 2000 4.7L Idle fix
2000 Dakota CC 4x4 , Magnaflow exhaust, Z-Tube, Runnin Amsoil
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Python97
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3/22/2001
16:44:34
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It happens to all these trucks. Mine does iyt my freignd does it. I have stalled the truck once. I thing its just the way these engines run. I dont think its really a problem. If you find anything out please list it.
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WhiteQuad
Dodge Dakota
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3/07/2002
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I have a 2001 3.9V6 Automatic Dakota Quad cab. From the first day I brought it home it has hesitated and wanting to stall. It has actually stalled just a handful of times because when it starts acting like it wants to I juice it pretty good. However, it usually occurs when changing gears from Reverse to Drive. There are times when it will hiccup a little when accelerating from a deadstop such as from a stop light. It did stall once in the Drive position just after backing out of a parking space, but just once. The dealer says there is nothing wrong. They did replace the PCM when I first reported the problem, but it didn't fix the problem. I have taken it in several times since then, but they say there isn't anything wrong with it. Does anyone know of a contact I can talk with at Dodge? When I called the numbers given to me from the dealer, they provided the absolute worst customer service and kept telling me there wasn't anything wrong with my truck. I kept telling them that because they can't find the problem does't negate the fact that a problem exists. Any help much appreciated.
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David Forest
Dodge Dakota
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3/07/2002
23:50:45
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I have a 2000 Quad Cab with a 4.7L. I read that Dodge was trying to meet really low emissions with the truck and the idle was set very low. I had the same problem with stalling on cold mornings as soon as I put it in gear. The Dodge dealer fixed the problem under warranty by adjusting the computer. It's been 6 months since that and it hasn't stalled once. Good Luck.
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Throttle
Dodge Dakota
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3/09/2002
21:52:24
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I too have an occasional stalling problem. Example, pulling into my diveway I put the truck in park and the RPM's drop down around 2-3 hundred (it almost sounds like the engine is gasping) and it stalls. When it doesn't stall the RPM's come back to idle which is 600 rpm. Iv'e got 3200 miles on the truck and this has happened 5 times. Anyone have the same symptons? Thanks, 2002 4.7
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idle
Dodge Dakota
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3/09/2002
22:02:51
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There is a TSB that addresses the low idle stalling issue.
See your friendly neighborhood Dodge dealer for details.
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scat pack
GenIII
3/10/2002
10:45:32
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Definitely see your dealer. It doesn't "happen to all these trucks". Mine doesn't do it.
2K RC 4.7 4x4
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xplikt
Dodge Dakota
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3/10/2002
11:18:07
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I'm getting mine checked on Tuesday, yey!
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idle
Dodge Dakota
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3/10/2002
17:46:58
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Here's the details........
NUMBER: 18-001-01
GROUP: Vehicle Performance
DATE: Jan. 26, 2001
THIS BULLETIN SUPERCEDES TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN 18-023-00 REV. A, DATED DEC. 21, 2000, WHICH SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM YOUR FILES. ALL REVISIONS ARE HIGHLIGHTED WITH **ASTERISKS**. THIS LATEST REVISION NOW INCLUDES THE WJ - CALIF. EMISSION PACKAGE.
SUBJECT:
4.7L Engine Performance Enhancements
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves selectively erasing and reprogramming the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) with new software (calibration level 99Cal20 and 00Cal17)
MODELS:
2000 (AN) Dakota
2000 (DN) Durango
1999 - 2000 (WJ) Grand Cherokee
NOTE: **THIS BULLETIN APPLIES TO VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH A 4.7L ENGINE.**
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
Some vehicle engines may exhibit several of the following engine performance conditions:
1. Part throttle or wide open throttle spark knock.
2. **Sag or hesitation following a cold engine start (except WJ with Calif. emissions).**
3. Rough idle.
4. Idle sag when decelerating to a stop.
DIAGNOSIS PROCEDURES:
1. If the customer experiences any of the above conditions, then perform the Repair Procedure.
PARTS REQUIRED:
EQUIPMENT REQUIRED:
NOTE: THE MDS2 AND DRB III(R) ARE REQUIRED TO PERFORM PART OF THIS REPAIR. WHEN USING THE MDS2 AND THE DRB III(R), THE SYSTEM MUST BE OPERATING AT CIS CD 2076 OR HIGHER.
REPAIR PROCEDURE:
1. Log onto the MDS2 (Mopar Diagnostic System).
2. Connect the MDS2 and DRB III(R) to the vehicle and switch the ignition key to "ON".
NOTE: AUTO CONNECTION WILL OCCUR ONCE THE DRB III(R), MDS2, AND VEHICLE ESTABLISH COMMUNICATION. THE "CANNOT READ VIN FROM DRB III(R)" MESSAGE (ON THE MDS2) WILL BE REPLACED BY THE VEHICLE VIN. PRESS THE "OK" BUTTON ON THE MDS2 TO REQUEST A MDS2 SESSION FOR THE VEHICLE VIN INDICATED. PRESS THE "OK" BUTTON WHEN ASKED TO BEGIN SESSION.
3. Push the FLASH tab on the MDS2.
4. Select READ PART NUMBERS FROM VEHICLE and click SHOW UPDATES on the MDS2.
NOTE: A MESSAGE MAY APPEAR (AFTER STEP 3 OR 4) THAT INDICATES NO UPDATES ARE AVAILABLE. IF THIS OCCURS, MAKE SURE YOUR DIAGNOSTIC EQUIPMENT IS OPERATING AT THE LATEST SOFTWARE LEVEL AS LISTED EARLIER IN THIS BULLETIN. IF THE LATEST SOFTWARE IS INSTALLED, AND NO UPDATES ARE AVAILABLE ANOTHER VEHICLE CONDITION EXISTS THAT WILL REQUIRE FURTHER INVESTIGATION.
5. Select the new software part number with the light pen and click UPDATE CONTROLLER SOFTWARE.
6. The MDS2 and DRB III(R) will prompt for any operator action needed during the remainder of the reprogramming process.
NOTE: DUE TO THE PCM REPROGRAMMING PROCEDURE, A DTC MAY BE SET IN OTHER MODULES (EATX, BCM, MIC, SKIM, ETC.) WITHIN THE VEHICLE, IF SO EQUIPPED. SOME DTC'S MAY CAUSE THE MIL TO ILLUMINATE. ALL DTC'S RELATE TO A LOSS OF COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE MODULE THAT IS BEING REPROGRAMMED. CHECK ALL MODULES, RECORD THE FAULTS, AND ERASE THESE FAULTS PRIOR TO RETURNING THE VEHICLE TO THE CUSTOMER. ERASE ANY FAULTS IN THE PCM ONLY AFTER ALL OTHER MODULES HAVE HAD THEIR FAULTS ERASED.
NOTE: THE FOLLOWING STEPS ARE REQUIRED BY LAW.
7. Type the necessary information on the "Authorized Software Update Label" p/n 04669020 (Fig. 1). Attach the label to the PCM and cover the label with the clear plastic overlay.
8. Type the necessary information on the "Authorized Modification Label" p/n 04275086 and attach the label near the VECI label (Fig. 2).
POLICY:
Reimbursable within the provisions of the warranty.
TIME ALLOWANCE:
FAILURE CODE:
Copyright © 2002 ALLDATA LLC. Terms of Service
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CW
GenIII
3/10/2002
19:12:23
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Beware they probably knock back the spark timing on that flash.
2001 RC 4.7 5sp 9.25" 3.92 LSD
Ported 68mm TB, IAT adjuster, 3" flowmaster cat back, TPS @ .76V, 4" cold air, Roadmaster active suspention, Removed Third cat, Electric fan Convertion, HO cams.
Working on adjustable fuel pressure with return.
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Erik
Dodge Dakota
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3/10/2002
21:27:04
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I had the same problem. Had the PCM updated and cleared the problem.
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Carlos A
Dodge Dakota
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12/15/2004
11:11:13
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I have the same problem with my 2000 Durango 4.7L even after they updated the PCM and gave it a tuneup. Had the Fuel Injectors cleaned a month ago. It is back with the dealer
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Stevo
Dodge Dakota
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8/29/2005
01:25:21
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Hi, my 2000 Dakota did that to me too sort of, I would re driving and it felt wierd like something was holding its full power back and occasionally if I put it in reverse the idling would drop to low and it would stall, turned the key back then tried to start it, starts just fine. Then sometimes if I was waiting @ a red light for a minute or so I would look a the tach and the rpms would be fuctuating, light turns Green step on the gas and it would be o.k.
Also during this time the engine light never came on once.So I dicided to go and see one of my friends in Saskatchewan so I took it to the dealer to have it checked out and #1 cylinder had 0 zero compression all other 7 cyls 150 psi
turns out valve must have stuck or something and a roller rocker came loose and fell out.
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