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BearHit Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
5/22/2002 23:46:51
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Subject: RE: AMSOIL IP: Logged
Message: Auntie Sandie was probably not a leadfoot either, eh?
I'm all for cheaper oil changes - but if everyone gets on the synthetic bandwagon, aren't we less inclined to be so nice to all the Middle Eastern Oil Sheiks?
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Dr. D Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
5/23/2002 01:55:54
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Message: Jason,
I am very satisfied with the performance of
AMSOIL, I own a lawn care business and I really
depend on their products.
A lot of people think that their products are
expensive and I am here to tell you that they are
not.
I buy their products in the Quart, Gallon, 2.5
Gallon, 30 and 55 gallon drum containers
(ask about wholesale pricing),
and have yet to find any other company that will
help lower my cost to run my equipment and help it
last a lot longer.
People can say what they want to about AMSOIL'S
marketing statements, but I have yet to find them
stretching the truth.
Dr. D
P.S.
I talk a lot about AMSOIL products because they
have worked above and beyond my expectations and I
do not get paid by AMSOIL to make these
statements.
P.S.S
I hope nobody ever gets me started on AC-Delco and
OPTIMA batteries!
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QuackDak Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
5/23/2002 06:47:15
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Message: I am all for synthetics and extended oil drains.
The last thing I want to do is send my $$$ over to a bunch of towel heads for every 3000 mile oil change.
Use whatever 100% pure synthetic you want. Advances in formulation and technology have greatly extended the life of synthetic oils.
Hell, I remember when my father used to change sparkplugs every 15k miles. No more.
I remember when my father sold every truck at 50k miles because he knew it was shot at 75k. No more.
I used to change my conventional oil every 3k miles. No more.
Now I use extended drain synthetic in all my vehicles. The reason is technology advances in both the oils and additives and filtration. Forever more.
(15 year synthetic oil user, over 1 million combined miles)
My $$$ ain't going to the towel heads.
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BeAware Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
5/23/2002 07:18:17
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Message:
BE Aware and Be CAREFUL:
Not all Synthetic Oils are TRUELY Synthetic.
To quote an expert:
In 1999 the National Advertising Division (NAD) of the council of Better Business Bureau ruled in a debate of what is "synthetic".
Mobil challenged Castrol's replacement of polyalphaolefins (PAO's) with hydroisomerized waxes in their synthetic formulations. The Bureau ruled in Castrols favor and allowed them to call this hydroisomerized processed petroleum oil a synthetic. (A license to LIE)
The NAD ruled that synthetic was just a marketing term since there was no true definition of what synthetic is.
Since then many oil companies have replaced their True Synthetics with this highly refined petroleum oil in place of the more expensive True Synthetic PAO's.
These new highly refined petroleum oils are better in quality and performance than the cheaper refined oils, but they only come close in some parameters to a True Synthetic Oil and are cheaper to manufacture.
However, there is a growing place in the market place for these new oils, (at least they are better than conventional), as the bar keeps raising in regards to motor oil improvements required for new engines.
These "pretend synthetics" (you will see them advertised "as good as"), will NEVER be able to measure up to the parameters of hot and cold temperatures that True Synthetics can safely handle.
Only TRUE 100% Synthetics offer TRUE protection!!!
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Dr. D Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
5/23/2002 09:42:14
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Message: Hey QuakDak,
You have taken the words right outa my
heart.... "My money ain't going to the towel
heads"!
I like knowing that the oil company that I buy
from does NOT rely on foreign oil for their
basestocks!
"No Iran, No Pakistan, No Taliban in their can" !
Do I hear an A-Men ?
Dr. D
P.S.
Now if we can just get Ethanol on the market and
the automakers to build a fuel system that could
handle Ethanol like the aviation industry did.
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sandman Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE ![Email](http://www.dodgedakota.net/amb/icons/email.gif)
5/23/2002 11:50:32
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Message: Well you kind of have to be driveing like a lead foot when you driveing that much each day just to get to and from work! It was a 4 cylinder Cavalier wagon and she had 5 kids that were in sports, band, and church youth group. She was also driveing to college a few times a week and letting the kids learn to drive on that car!! The point I was trying to make is that synthetic oils are much better then conventional oil. If this is possable with conventional oil imagine what is possable with a half way decent synthetic. You would be hard pressed to find any 100% synthtic that is inferior to a conventional product!!!So even a lesser synthetic should allow you to go 500,000-800,000 miles!!!!!!!!
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NJ-Dakota Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
5/24/2002 16:54:31
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Message: Reasons I'm switching to extended drain synthetics so I use less oil:
Recent escalations of tension around the world (it is inevitable that oil prices will be more volatile)
Underground water supplies are being contaminated by gas and oil to a greater extent than the public is aware of causing birth defects, cancer, etc.(CNN News today)
I don't want to be held hostage by foreign oil producing countries. (look how wealthy the oil sheiks are already and they have been supporting terrorists, which are often extended family members)
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AmsoilSponsor Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE ![Email](http://www.dodgedakota.net/amb/icons/email.gif)
5/24/2002 17:02:49
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Message: A lot of people have emailed me asking about 0W-30 so I am reposting this. Here is your answer:
" 0W- " is a viscosity GRADE, not a viscosity MEASUREMENT.
When testing for cold fluidity, the temperature is lowered
approximately 5 degrees centigrade between each test.
The Cold Crank Simulator Apparent Viscosity is tested at:
-20 C for 10W-
-25 C fpr 5W-
-30 C for 0W-
It is my understanding that the oil has to be labelled
at the lowest temperature it meets the specifications.
It may not be long before someone comes out with a " -5W-30 " which would correspond with -35 C.
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DakFlagWaver Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
5/27/2002 22:22:44
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Message: I am in agreement with QuakDak when he says:
"I am all for synthetics and extended oil drains.
The last thing I want to do is send my $$$ over to a bunch of towel heads for every 3000 mile oil change."
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CaliforniaDak Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
5/28/2002 08:38:50
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Message: ACTUAL MILEAGE VS. ENGINE MILEAGE.
I believe it should be noted somewhere that an engines mileage will be different than the odometer mileage.
Example: I drive my truck 17 miles to my office, and don't drive it on the weekends. 17 miles each way times two times a day = 34 miles per day times 250 work days per year = 8,500 miles per year.
17 miles X 2 trips = 34 X 250 days = 8,500 ODOMETER MILES
However, my "time" on the road is 1 hour each way (bumper to bumper) times two trips per day = 500 hours per year (# of hours engine is running). If I were driving 60 miles per hour for those SAME 500 hours, I would travel 30,000 miles in that same time frame where I am traveling only 8,500 miles in actual distance.
1 hour x 2 trips x 250 days x 60 mph = 30,000 miles
When considering engine protection don't just look at the odometer ... think of the hours and how far you would have traveled. I too believe that the whole point of using a Premium Synthetic Oil is peace of mind. I like knowing that I can trust the oil in my car to protect my engine whether it shows 8,500 miles on the odometer or 30,000 miles on the clock.
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FYI Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
5/29/2002 16:58:38
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Message: Seeing the ads for synthetic motor oils and lubricants, you may ask if they are right for your gasoline or diesel engines. Are they worth the extra money?
Conventional mineral motor oils are refined using crude oil for the base sotck. Mineral oils contain impurities, such as nitrogen, resin, asphalt, wax, carbon, sulfur, and aromatic residues. Refining removes most of these, but some remain to cause problems, especially under stress and temperatures.
In contrast, synthetic oils are developed in the laboratory from man made organic esters and other synthesized hydrocarbons to provide the exact characteristics desired. These "designer" oils include no impurities, at least when poured from the can. Impurities, of course, can appear during combustion.
Even the best conventional mineral-based motor oils break down or oxidize at temperatures of 250deg to 350deg F. Above this the life of these oils drops drastically, resulting in increased engine wear and formation of harmful sludge (or BLACK DEATH), varnish and other deposits. Synthetic oils can easily tolerate temperatures of up to 450 degrees, and some can go up to 550+ degrees. With synthetic oils, there are no impurities, so they resist oxidation much longer.
Synthetic oils also work better at low temperatures because they flow much more freely down to -40 to -50 degrees F. Also, synthetic oils start lubricating much sooner and reach critical areas much faster.
The advantages?
Longer intervals between oil changes are possible because synthetics suffer less breakdown due to the better base stock used. Usually the synthetics will have a better additive package, allowing the oil to clean better among other things.
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Jdak Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE ![Email](http://www.dodgedakota.net/amb/icons/email.gif)
5/30/2002 07:48:15
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Message: Amsoil is the best..Not too many people are disagreeing with that BUT..
Don't forget the proper filter...
Amsoil makes those also.
Change regularly.
Jdak
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Tommy Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
6/15/2002 23:15:40
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Message: I work in the Fuel Cell industry, and trust me ... if it weren't for the middle east (they need our oil $$$ to help keep the peace - otherwise Armagedon) and the big oil companies, we would have fuel cells already. Any comments as to how fuel cells will affect how you guys plan to build race trucks when everyone has fuel cells.
--- I predict 2013 ---
Me??? I'm running only the best oils to make sure my trucks last forever. I'll be the Mad Max of the next decade.
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Nudder2Cents Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
6/16/2002 15:46:59
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Message: A few years back, Wal-Mart discussed carrying AMSOIL products. They told AMSOIL how much they wanted on a yearly basis, and how much they would be willing to pay. AMSOIL told them that AMSOIL would have to "reformulate" (read "cost-engineer") to meet those price demands and 1) Amsoil would not do that 2) It is hard to lower prices if you use more expensive premium materials 3)Amsoil does not discount the oil and compete directly with its Independent Dealers (which were their life blood from the beginning). Discussions ended.
Many retail stores now carry AMSOIL, and they sell a lot. But in many cases, the local parts stores won't carry AMSOIL because they don't perceive a demand for it. NOTE: Stores don't compete with Independent Dealers because they have to be "sponsored" by a dealer to carry the product.
Amsoil's lack of public advertizing is probably it's own worst enemy ... the reason (not a household name). You would think that Amsoil would do far better as a company if they advertized on TV, lowered prices and sold their products wherever Mobil 1 does.
Well, look at it this way. Take a tiny company (Amsoil), started out some 30 years back, with one man formulating and blending in small quantities, and bottling in gallons. He has a great product, and no way to get anyone to hear about it (no advertising budget)and learn of its superior qualities. He has great resistance from existing oil companies and auto manufacturers. So what does he do? He signs up his friends and customers to become "Independent Amsoil Dealers" to get the word out.
It is hard to lower prices if you use more expensive materials. On the other hand, both Castrol and Mobil "reformulated" (read "cost-engineered") their synthetics to compete on the "Walmart type" shelves. Did either drop their prices? I don't think so.
AMSOIL is still a small company, and their advertising budget is nowhere near that of the large oil companies. They focus their money on educating the public in specialty publications-- Sno Goer, Trailer Life, American Iron, Custom Rodder, etc. (where the knowledgeable people are)
For about 20 years, Mobil probably spent more on advertising Mobil 1 than AMSOIL had total sales. However, if Mobil had to pay for advertising only from sales of Mobil 1, you would never hear about it. They use profits from their other divisions (retail gas, etc) to pay for the Mobil 1 advertising.
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Jethro Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE ![Email](http://www.dodgedakota.net/amb/icons/email.gif)
6/20/2002 06:31:58
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Message: Thanks Guys,
Ive learned a lot on this board
and just wanted to keep it going (sorry)
bump
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Amsoil Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE ![Email](http://www.dodgedakota.net/amb/icons/email.gif)
6/20/2002 09:48:11
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Message: *** Borrowed from the Amsoil Corporate Website ***
(they can state the facts better than I can)
EP Additives
Q. An individual has posted a message on an Internet message board that said AMSOIL motor oils "lack sufficient EP additives" and the "quality of the product has dropped" in the last few years. Due to lack of EP additives and the the drop in product quality he "wiped out bearings, pistons, rocker bushings, etc."
A. No truth whatsoever. AMSOIL INC. has continually improved the performance of its products over the years. The best performing oil we've ever made are the oils we make today. In addition, new technology has allowed us to improve performance as the introduction of our Series 2000 oils. Our standard products outperform the competition and the Series 2000 products blow them away.
ADDITIVES
First of all, extreme pressure (EP) additives are not typically used in motor oil. EP additives are used in gear lubes and some greases. This is because they contain sulfur or chlorine compounds that become active under engine operating conditions. In this activated state they react with the water found in by-products of combustion, and form acids which are corrosive to engine components such as bearings.
Engine oils typically use antiwear (AW) additives to prevent metal-to-metal contact within an engine. These are commonly zinc and phosphorus compounds (zinc dithiophosphate or ZDP). These additives are different from EP additives because they activate or bond with metal surfaces at lower temperatures and pressures and do not form corrosive acids. EP additives are intended to withstand higher pressures and temperatures than found in engines. AW additives offer more than enough protection for all engine conditions without any of the harmful side effects of EP additives.
AMSOIL INC. has always used higher quality and a higher level of additives including zinc and phosphorus than most motor oils on the market.
Quantity of AW additives alone, however, will not make one lubricant perform better than a competitive lubricant. It's the combination of blended synthetic basestocks with a perfectly balanced package of the highest quality additives that allows AMSOIL to consistently outperform the competition in all aspects, including wear protection.(NOTE: Perfectly balanced means that using an aftermarket oil additive will not improve and may actually harm the performance of AMSOIL motor oils.)
WEAR PROTECTION
AMSOIL products clearly offer better wear protection than competitive synthetics and much better protection than conventional oils. Engines can fail due to mechanical problems even when using AMSOIL. AMSOIL Motor Oils, however, in over twenty-five years have never caused an engine failure. If you ever hear someone say AMSOIL caused their engine, bearings, pistons, etc. to fail, they are wrong.
INSUFFICIENT LUBRICATION
Some causes of insufficient lubrication include oxidation, oil thickening, sludge, cold temperature related dry starts, etc. These, however, are also areas where AMSOIL motor oils out perform the competition.
YES, You can say this is a sales pitch. I am simply offering this information to those that are interested.
S. Roark, Amsoil Dealer
www.american-synthetic-oil.com
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GTKILLR Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE ![Email](http://www.dodgedakota.net/amb/icons/email.gif)
6/23/2002 22:52:05
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Message: I recently traded in my 97 Z28 for an 01 Dakota 4.7 QC. I'm extremly happy with my purchase. I am getting ready to convert my Dakota front to back with AMSOIL products (tranny, engine, rear end). I used AMSOIL in my Z28 (front to back) and was extremely satisfied. I saw an increase in gas mileage (22 to 25 in hwy) and longevity of the motor. At about 70K miles, I had to fix an intake leak. Took off the intake and the motor was clean -- no sludge!! In the three years I owned it, only had two oil changes. I highly recommend using AMSOIL in your vehicles.
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AmsoilDealer Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE ![Email](http://www.dodgedakota.net/amb/icons/email.gif)
6/23/2002 23:38:46
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Message:
Well put and thank you for the Amsoil Endorsement
Congrats !! ... on the new '01 Dakota 4.7 QC !!
(P.S. Time to get a new email address )
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Additional information for those interested...
AMSOIL Synthetic Oil surpasses the North American AAMA, Japanese JASO and European ACEA oil specifications for high temperature/high shear viscosity protection.
Automobile manufacturers and OEM oils
The vehicle manufacturers need to sell you vehicles, that's their business... sell new and REPLACEMENT vehicles. Each vehicle maker has product planned obsolescence built into their business plan (frame-body-drivetrain-ENGINE-etc.). They won't tell you about or recommend AMSOIL synthetic oil because your vehicle engine might last two or three times as long. That's not in their business interest! Also they make a tremendous profit on the OEM oil that they sell. This OEM oil provides two functions, it keeps your vehicle on their planned schedule for maintainance, repairs, and wearout ... and it adds a tremendously profitable add-on sale. So recommending AMSOIL synthetic oil that would make your vehicle last longer and reduce their oil sales would be counter productive to their business plan.
Dealers and their Demands
If your vehicle dealer takes issue with you using AMSOIL Synthetic oil and tells you that it will affect your Warranty if you don't use their OEM oil. Please have them refer to the Magnuson - Moss Act (1977) which states that if a Dealer requires (demands) that you use their parts or accessories, they must supply them "Free of Charge."
Steven Roark, Amsoil Dealer, www.dodgedakota.com sponsor
www.american-synthetic-oil.com
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7/15/2002 09:15:19
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Message:
I've gotten quite a few emails asking about Amsoil (thank you Dodge Truck Enthusiasts).
For the benefit of all, I have suggested that they (you) visit this forum and specifically this string. If this does not answer your questions please let me know and I will mail you any additional information that I am unable to post due to the fact that it is in print form.
Thank you,
Steven Roark
AMSOIL Synthetic Oils, Lubricants and Truck Care Products
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S. Allen Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
7/15/2002 11:32:15
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Message: ...if you're SO WORRIED about sending your money to the "towel-heads"...what are you doing driving a V-8 pick-up that gets maybe 14mpg on a good day?
Shouldn't you be in a hybrid that gets 50mpg if you're THAT worried about feeding the Middle Easterners?
Kinda silly if you ask me.
Write your Congressmen and ask for more domestic oil exploration and production and to ignore the "greenie-weenie" enviromentalist doomsayers. Then, stop voting for Demo-rats that don't want to drill here and keep us dependant on the foreign oil.
(I'm not taking up for the "towel-heads...or anything like that!)
-SA
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TOYOTA vs DAK Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
7/15/2002 11:39:23
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Message:
Toyota is THE LEADER in Hybrid Technology.
Looking for 70% of global sales in 2013 to be Hybrid.
Perhaps we will all be able to buy a TUNDRA HYBRID soon !
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The Dak Man Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE ![Email](http://www.dodgedakota.net/amb/icons/email.gif)
7/15/2002 13:44:52
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Message:
Today's vehicles are built to go 100,000 miles without a tune-up. Tires last for 75,000 to 100,000 miles. Anti-freeze now lasts up to 150,000 miles.
If it weren't for your oil and filters, you could drive your car off the lot and never see another service technician for 100,000 miles. Don't you wish "they" would come up with some way to avoid the hassle and the expense of so many oil & filter changes? If you're tired of 3,000 mile oil changes, this will be some of the most important information you ever read.
LUBRICATION INDUSTRY SECRETS REVEALED! - Why isn't the automotive lubrication industry offering the same convenience that other automotive industries are? Because they're afraid of lost revenue. The technology's been around for years.
It's simply more profitable for large oil companies to sell conventional petroleum motor oils, or a four dollar STANDARD DRAIN Synthetic ... than a slightly more expensive EXTENDED DRAIN Synthetic. They've got you coming back every 3,000 to 5,000 miles. They've want your money ... and they've got your money.
In fact, Synthetic Oils are just an ADD-ON for the BIG oil companies. Their bread and butter is conventional petroleum oil sales. If they start selling cost-effective, extended drain synthetic oils, you will quit buying petroleum oil. And, you'll purchase synthetic oil less often. In the end their profit margins would fall drastically. They would have to completely rethink their marketing strategy. How sad.
Here's another little known tidbit you should know. Mobil came out with a 25,000 mile synthetic in the mid 70's. But, the company refocused on petroleum oils because they were more profitable. Guess what? They've done another 180 degree turnaround. It appears Mobil Corporation is now working on yet another 25,000 mile synthetic oil. Why 25,000 miles? Why not 20,000 or 30,000? Who do you think their competing with? I won't mention any names (Amsoil). I am not into promoting someone else (Amsoil)... but if you look around I bet you might find them yourself. (Amsoil)
TheDakMan
12 Year Amsoil User
(Not a Amsoil Dealer or Salesman)
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Pinnacle Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
7/15/2002 16:12:12
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Message: So what your'e saying is that AMSOIL is not into making a profit, because they make an extended drain product???? i dont think so.
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7/15/2002 17:23:45
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Message:
Fund Raising Opportunities
Volunteer Fire Departments, Churches, Athletic Organizations, Little Leagues, Bands, Choirs, etc.
---- Any Not-For-Profit Organization ----
Why sell candy for a one time profit when you can sell Amsoil and every customer you register is a customer for life with residual commissions paid to your organization.
For more information check out this thread on the Off Topic Board
http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/ot/804.html
... or email me for additional information.
Steven Roark, Amsoil Dealer
AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants and Truck Care Products
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Dr. D Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
7/15/2002 21:19:42
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Message: I think what Dak Man is trying to say is that it pays to use AMSOIL.
I own two small businesses and if it were not for AMSOIL my expenses would be much higher than what they are.
AMSOIL saves me over $300.00 a year in oil costs alone by using their 100:1 two cycle oil in all of my two-cycle equipment and I went from 1.6 to 1.25 gallons per hour on a KOHLER 25 h.p. just by switching to AMSOIL.
Dr. D
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YellerDak Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
7/19/2002 22:43:59
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Message: China's Oil Imports are growing at a rapid clip as they are embracing the 21st Century
...and capitalization ...and commericialization.
Current population is 1.2 billion and 220 million (roughly the population of the US) are making a decent income and buy luxury homes and automobiles. Combine this with the banking power of Hong Kong and what do you have. THE NEXT DECADES SUPERPOWER!
Also, If they want ultimate POWER, they don't have to launch a nuke ... they just decide to buy the oil output and oil goes to $75 a barrel. Get ready ... it's going to happen.
Then you will be crying for a case of extended drain Amsoil. BTW, I'll wave as I pass the quickie lube.
The only fluid that I have not switched to Amsoil is my Pepto Bismol. If I thought Amsoil would grease my chute I would drink a bottle tomorrow.
:-)
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7/22/2002 13:33:31
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Message: Somewhere and someplace someone asked about Amsoil Warranty. I can't find the post with the question so I will post here.
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Most Important: Keep accurate service records and all purchase receipts
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Vehicle manufacturers recommend using motor oils meeting certain grades and American Petroleum Institute (API) service requirements. Whether the motor oil is petroleum based or synthetic will not affect warranty coverage. The manufacturer is required to cover all equipment failures it would normally cover as long as the oil meets the requirements and was not the cause of the failure.
AMSOIL exceeds these requirements and has never been deemed the cause of an engines failure. Even so, AMSOIL has its own limited warranty, protecting you even further. In addition, the federally mandated Magnuson-Moss Act states that a manufacturer may not require the use of a specific brand of aftermarket product unless it is provided free of charge.
* If a car dealership, service center or other business states that using AMSOIL will void your new vehicle warranty, ask for that statement in writing and send it to AMSOIL Technical Services (AMSOIl Inc., AMSOIL Bldg, Superior, WI 54880). If the business won't provide the statement in writing send AMSOIL Technical Services a letter identifying who made the statement, the name and location of the business and what the specific statement was. AMSOIL will then send a letter to the business informing them that their position is inaccurate, and, in fact violates existing law. Your name will be held in confidence. A sample of this letter can be provided upon request.
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For additional information on Amsoil's Limited Warranty please visit my website.
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Amsoil's Limited Warranty is in effect when Amsoil Products are used in mechanically sound engines, providing, of course the oil is kept free of contaminants by changing the oil filter according to the manufacturer's recommendation or, when using an AMSOIL Super Duty Oil Filter, changing the filter based on Amsoils oil and filter change recommendations.
Additionally, if there is ever a question of whether or not a particular oil was the cause of an engine failure make sure to get a sample of the used oil in a clean bottle, typically 6 oz. minimum. The oil can then be sent to two independent testing labs for analysis (labs are located throughout the country).
A reminder: Keep accurate service records and all purchase receipts
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Remember, an informed consumer is your best defense against being taken advantage of by a vehicle dealership or service center.
Steven Roark, Amsoil Dealer, Proud Sponsor of DodgeDakotas.com
Amsoil Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubrication, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
** Additional Amsoil Limited Warranty Information is available on my website
** "SECURE" online ordering is available on my website
Thank You
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7/28/2002 22:26:36
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Everyone at DodgeDakotas.com
Honesty is the best policy. I am "bumping" this thread since I have seen a lot of Amsoil posts over the last few days and thought it best not to "over post" and take up valuable server space. Valuable information can be found here if you go back to the "original post" and read them all.
Let me know if I can be of any assistance.
Steven Roark, Amsoil Dealer, Proud Sponsor of DodgeDakotas.com
Amsoil Synthetic Oils, Lubrication, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
New Redesigned Website Offering Product Information and SECURE Online Ordering
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7/30/2002 07:00:22
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Message:
"Which Oil" discussion reminds me of CROSSFIRE on TV. (careful everyone, we don't have an "oil" moderator)
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As a followup to a previous post:
Additional ways to cover yourself with the Amsoil Limited Warranty:
Go to your local "quick lube" for oil change service. Just bring in your own Amsoil Motor Oil and Filter (or whatever other brand) and they will install it for you and provide you with a receipt stating "the customer provided their own oil". My "quick lube" charges me labor only and gives me all of the extras (freebies) you get when you're getting their standard oil change. They check all the other fluids, tire pressure, air filter, etc., etc. At my local "quick lube" the standard oil change is 19.95 and they charge me 14.95 when I bring my own Amsoil. This way I am covered no matter what, no questions asked, just "proof" of change.
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Rather do it yourself? Here is what some of my customers do.
You can save your receipt from your Amsoil purchase, then take a DATED PHOTO of the odometer on the day that you change the oil.
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Beyond these two options, I don't know what you could do.
Sincerely,
Steven Roark, Amsoil Dealer, Proud Sponsor of DodgeDakotas.com
Amsoil Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubrication, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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8/01/2002 13:12:56
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Message:
I just wanted to thank you Steven for all your assistance and I received my Amsoil order today. I'll keep you posted on my analysis.
CanaDak
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