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EternalStrgth
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3/27/2002
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Hey all. I am sorta wonderin about joining the Navy. I'm 20 right now and love math. Im in all the accelerated classes in my courses at my college. I noticed yall barely touched on the subject of enlistment or reenlistment bonuses. I noticed some large numbers to say the least. How does enlistment work?, and how does your salary work, bonuses? Can I please have some help on this topic?? Thanks in advance.
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5pnt9ltrluv
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3/28/2002
00:08:51
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Go to www.navy.com dood. or call your nearest recruiter. They would have more info about that than any old squid on this board...hehe
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ironworker
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3/28/2002
03:35:45
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go for oficer commision much better than enlistment
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Ex-Navy
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3/28/2002
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I spent 10 years as an enlisted Electronics Technician.
Had a lot of fun and saw places I may never have seen otherwise.
Reenlistment bonuses are based on "Needs of the Navy" i.e. if alot of ETs are getting out - Uncle Sam will be inclined to pay... say 10K for four more years commitment.
Advancement falls into the same role - if they have too many E-6s and few E-5s, they will raise the required score ("multiple") necessary to advance to the next paygrade.
For me, it was a great career move compared to staying home with Mom, working for minimum wage, and going to colleg part-time.
I got out - and used the G.I. Bill to get my BSEET
If you're considering getting your degree and then signing on for an officer's tour... I wish I had gone that route - for the big $$ but there is alot more politics involved.
Either way, after 4 or 6 years... you'll be glad you did it I bet.
I was 20 when I enlisted
I think all young men should do at least 3 years in the Armed Forces.
GO NAVY
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fourgivn1
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3/28/2002
07:28:20
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I'd agree with what's written above, with one exception. I am an ET, and the reenlistment bonus for me is $30,000. Not too shabby. It is based upon the needs of the Navy, but there is ALWAYS a reenlistment bonus for certain rates that have them. I've never seen them 'lose' their bonuses. They've gone down a bit, but I've been in since 1994, and our reenlistment bonus has gone UP since then.
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Bill55AZ
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3/28/2002
07:28:42
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As a former Navy Enlisted, I can tell you that it partially depends on what you want to do after you get out. I was trained in Nuclear Power, and the only place to get that training is in the Navy. A civilian career in Muclear Power involves a lot of shift work, which sucks after a while. Later on, after getting out, I got into Metrology, which is not the weather, but calibrating and repairing test equipment. Great working conditions! The best training there is in the Air Force as nearly all my coworkers were trained there. My brother was in the Air Force, seems they treat the enlisted people better there.
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Dr0p0ff
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3/28/2002
07:47:08
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if you want better treatment and living conditions, join the air force. if ya wanna be cramped up on a floating tin can for months at a time, join the navy. if you wanna be shuttled around by the navy on their tin cans for months at a time, only to go play in the sand and mud, join the USMC. (what i did) and if you wanna be a nasty, join the army. (just kidding army dogs.. take it easy.. down.. heel.. good army dogs) i'm also an electronics tech, the navy and marines operate very different than each other as far as promotions go, but you've got good advice from these guys. they'll give u all the help you need. if you can get into ROTC, and have them pay for your college, do it! and become a naval officer man. your wallet will thank you for that!
from the largest sand box on earth,
Sgt G
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JimB
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3/28/2002
11:02:34
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True - Air Force is more people oriented than the other branches. Hell, the enlisted guys call officers by their first names! Navy and Marines are a little hard core - i.e. 6 month deployments and such. Army - was stationed on an Army base for 3 years and all I can say about those folks is -- well, I better not.
As I said in a previous thread to you - if you're thinking about joining - finish your degree first. Yes, the VA has some great benefits (they paid for my grad. degree), however - a young guy like yourself doesn't have that much "free time" for education while at sea, where (and I know my Navy brothers and sisters in here will confirm this) 18 hour workdays are the "norm." Every once in awhile we worked half days -- 6 to 6. You wouldn't be able to finish your degree until you got a shore duty job -- usually right outta boot camp -- you're "haze gray and underway," so your school is going to be on hold for several years. - Jim
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dakota matt
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3/28/2002
11:22:20
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I had a best friend that joined the Navy and hated it. It had been his life long plan but he hated the life on a boat. I joined the Air Force 11 years ago and I am still in. The Air Force does treat its people better and the living conditions are the best. I am not trying to sell you on the Air Force, the military is not for everyone. I would suggest talking to more then just the Navy and choosing the one that sounds the best. The recruiters can help with the amount of enlistment bonuses and the bonuses in different career fields. The pay is geting better but you will not get rich in the military and pay is better when you are stationed overseas. Whatever you decide I wish you luck. You can e-mail me if you have any more questions. Again, I am not a recruiter and I am not trying to sell you on one service over the other but I am willing to answer questions.
Matthew Lee
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Bill55AZ
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3/28/2002
20:12:34
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And if you decide to go enlisted, make sure that whatever the recruiter promises you is IN THE CONTRACT before you sign it. I got the schools that I was promised, but a lot of guys I knew while in the Navy got their career paths changed on them halfway thru boot camp.
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Hersbird
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3/28/2002
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Well as both a former Navy enlisted man for 11 years and as a recruiter for 3 years I can give you pretty honest insight to any questions you may have. I was a recruiter from 95-98 so I doubt much has really changed. I did enjoy the Navy but was no lifer, I was a huge PITA to every supervisior I had, and often was pretty much the local representitive for the spread of hate and discontent. If I could enlist all over again would I? Yes, but I would have done a lot of things differently. I do honestly believe for me the Navy was the best choice by far of all the services. The Air force would have been good, but I would not have gotten as far as I did in the Navy, and I bet I would have spent almost as much time away from my family (the main reason I got out). I can tell you all about how enlistment, and re-enlistment bonus work, but to be honest that is the biggest thing I would have changed. I was in the nuclear power program and re-enlisted twice, and also received a $5000 enlistment bonus (way back in 1988!) If I could do it all over again I would have doen the nuclear power program but I would have not re-enlisted or even took the 1 year extension for automatic promotion to E-4. There is so much more money to be made as a civilian the re-enlistment bonus just doesn't make sense. I said the Navy was right for me, but can see how the Marines, Army, Coast Guard, or Air Force can be the best for others. Best of all what the navy did for me besides seeing the world, was getting me the job I have now (Letter Carrier with the PO) I do honestly love this job and all my navy time counts for added vacation time and toward retirement, plus it was the only way I got hired in my area where the PO pays probably 50% more then the median wage, which makes for a nice quality of life. Just ask any specific questions here or e-mail me. watch out for recruiters, we are trained not to let you go without a commitment, and some are really good. If your at the end of the month they will really put the pressure on to make it happen now! At the beginning of the month they are more relaxed as the whole "quota" thing hasn't hit them yet.
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DakAttack 4.7
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3/29/2002
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I'm A PR with 11 years in. First off go and talk to a recruter. Not just Navy but the other branches. Then you will feel better in the Navy. If you like math and do not want to go Officer (more $) the a rate that has a high SRB rate and math skills. I.E. "nuke". But there is a down side to that. the nuke field has a bad sea to shore rotation. Meaning you will spend more time on sea duty. But that is the navy. Main thing to do though is when you go talk to the recruter is let him know that you do not want to rush into it and get the best rate and srb you can get. BTW, SRB is for when you re-enlist. A signing bonus is when you first enlist. Go for one that has a big signing bonus. High SRB, and best chances for advancment.
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Hersbird
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3/29/2002
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Signing bonuses do not actually come on signing up, they usually come at completion of the school which in the Nuke field's case is 2 years down the road and a 50% dropout rate.
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