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Scott
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2/28/2002
21:07:21

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I just bought a new 2002 Ram,screw the Dakota! Rams better! My truck has the same Dakota/grand cherokee powertrain,4.7L with 45RFE automatic,but with additional refinements and improvement too. Plus,its better looking than Dakota! Of course the Dakotas size might give it a slight power to weight ratio advantage,but Rams still better! haha!



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2/28/2002
21:47:29

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Man you sure like to gloat sort of...

Ram's are nice it's too bad the 2002 2500's and 2003 2500-3500's are ugly and ford wanna be's.

Personally the Ram is the older brother the the Dak is the better brother IMO. They are two different trucks by the same father so to speak. Both can tow and haul, the Ram may do this a bitt better due to a stronger frame and various bit's here and their but overall the same enignes and similar drivetrains which may even be the same so in esence the same towing capacity. Ram is just the Big brother that's all not better infact they are currently not selling as well as the Dak's.

However you are the genius that say's the Rams are better because you now own one. Depending on your opinion(your's is apparently skewed since you own a new Ram) the Dak or the Ram can look great. Facing facts though the new Ram's are not good sellers and infact the old Ram's sold better. Your trading may perhaps not be worth the same percentage as a dak down the line due to this reason, so you may love your ram but it could be a mistake and a poor investment. New models come with problems with the design that need to be worked out and tweaked before they are trust worthy and reliable. For example a Chysler Voyage in 93 has a bad reliablity rating but in 94 it is much better. Go figure. Speaking of power to weight might actually give the Dak a bigger advantage than you think because more troque OR less weight improves your ablity to tow. You may not have the king so far as towing a trailor but who worries about that when your car may fall apart on you...

In all likely hood you just bought a nice car that looks ugly but majority of the pop. Given time the census may change more to you favor but that is up in the wind right now.

It the Ram is really the better car go find a price from you dealer that knows you jsut bought a car and that your not gonna buy another one, for a Ram with modest options they would have on the lot and for a Dak with similar options and look at how much you wind up saving by choosing the dak over the Ram just think about those figures if you really care.

Or better yet I will fill you in my situation which I encountered.
Goes to buy a truck...
Finds a Ram V6 5 spd AC hardly any options 11999, Dak AC hardly any options 4 cyl auto 10399, Ram V6 Auto AC minor options MSRP 19k price quoted 13788, Dak V6 5spd ac similar option MSRP 17k price quoted 14799.

So for a Dak 14799, similarly configured Ram 13788. These are for the 2001's because this was what I went to buy and they are all reg cabs. I am the proud owner of and FSB, full size b*tch, and I mean it's a dog compared to the v6 dak that I drove but overall I like the big bench seat of the bukets that were in the Dak and the Ram was cheaper. The full size truck was cheaper then the compact... that says something about which one sells better.

I consider my self more impartial then most, and honestly I think the Dak is of the better design however the Ram has more to work with as in space for creature comforts. If the Dak was a full size it would surpass the 94-01 Ram's in ALL categories. Now the 02's are basically the Dak's idea's implemented in the Ram with more of thenew age styling idea's mixed with the Dak's styling idea's(which were based off the Ram's ... you get the point). However they went a little too far with their designs or the didn't go far enough. Wherever they are it isn't a good spot.
"(Rock) Ram (Hard Place)" we shall see if public opinion changes in favor of this new Rams in the coming years but so far not good.

Just my thoughts.

--James, 01 RAM 1500 3.9L V6 Auto, AC, 245/75R16's(Any idea what R16's COST??? Damn)

Oh BTW, Sorry if you feel in any way as to me judging you or your intentions but when you make a post like you did in a open forum agains the public support your bound to recieve negative comments. Besides you should slam a car simply by saying I bought A Ram so their better because they are...



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2/28/2002
22:08:47

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HEY TRY PARKING IT IN A NORMAL GARAGE BET YA IT DOESNT FIT HA HA. plus the Dakota is a much better looking TRUCK and remember this DODGE IS A ATTITUDE NOT A TRUCK!!!!!!! Actually i love all the Dodges i have had 7 of them and i will buy another



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3/04/2002
09:39:08

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I test drove 2 RAM 1500 Quad 4x4 4.7 autos and actually ordered one. I live in the most densely populated City in Ohio and on the way home negotiating city streets in my '98 regular cab Dakota I thought, "How the hell am I gonna drive that RAM around this town?". I went right back and cancelled the order and ordered a Dakota Quad instead. I got the Dakota last week. The RAM is a big beautiful truck and rides superbly. But, the Dakota is quicker 0-60 by 2 seconds over the RAM and cuts the 1/4 mile time by 3 seconds over a RAM. Now, when they put the 5.7 hemi in the RAM - that will be a real sweet truck. But, I really like the Dakota, it sounds nice and will surprise you when you floor it. And, it fits nicely in my garage.



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3/04/2002
16:24:57

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I just have to say the new rams look like crap. I liked the old style (pre-02) and that is why I got my Dakota. But what were they thinking when they built the new ram?



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3/04/2002
16:38:53

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Why are you coming in here saying the Dakota looks like crap? Do you have an axe to grind? Anyhow - I looked at the 1500, almost bought one, but the dealer wanted to take me to the bank. I walked out on him. Also, I would have gotten the 5.9.
While at the dealership, took the oppotunity to look at a 2002 Durango R/T. Man, it seems Dodge is taking a short cut lately -
no insulation on the inside of the hood, not even a light inside the hood. There are other short cuts, but why they are cutting stuff and raising the price is beyond me.
Enjoy your new truck - I am waiting a couple of years to see how many flaws are discovered. - Jim

99 SY 3.9 Dakota Sport
99 PB 5.9 Durango SLT

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3/04/2002
22:15:47

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I have both a 2001 4.7 Dakota 5 speed 3.92 and a 2002 Ram 5.9 3.55.

Both trucks are great. The styling of the new ram is also great. The ride in the ram is better and the steering and front end feel stronger. The whole truck feels built better then the previous ram.

The new ram handles awsome i like everything about it.

But the dak is more fun to drive. Way faster and feels more comfortable. But the interior is a little weak and so are the seats.

But the Dak is still the best deal.

Bottom line is that the Dak and Ram are both awsome. Designed for diffrent people. I prefure the ram for long highway drive and the dakota for intercity driving.

And finally FORD COPYED DODGE PERIOD.

I also saw the new ram and with a 345hp hemi and a 305 hp cummins and that new V10 8.3L its going to be one hell of a ride.

But I also saw the new 5.9 R/T with a factory Shaker hood scoop, MBRP cobra exhaust, and awsome stickers. Pretty cool.

So lets all just be happy with what we got and thank god we didnt get roped into buying a chevy or ford.



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