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Bill
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2/24/2002
17:20:23
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I just saw a commercial for the new GMC Sierra Denali truck that is to come out very soon that has what they call Quadra-Steer where all four wheels turn when the wheel is turned. THe commercial makes it look really neat. I would love to test drive one just to see what kind of a difference there is in steering. It will be interesting to see if this catches on.
Here's a link if you want to take a look at their website:
http://www.gmc.com/sierra/denali/innovation.html
Bill
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Demon-Xanth
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2/24/2002
18:19:37
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I read about that a while back, at low speed the tires turn opposite the front to decrease turning radius, but at high speed they turn the same way to make more stable lane changes. A completely electric setup.
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LEWNDI
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2/24/2002
18:32:31
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The've had that setup on firetrucks for a few years now and i've seen it on large motorhomes also. It works great for turning big vehicles in small spaces.
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MikeD
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2/24/2002
19:11:54
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Its like what they have on the big monster trucks. :)
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Bill
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2/24/2002
19:18:13
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That's the first thing I thought Mike! I really like this idea and think it may catch on. Seems like it would really help getting into some tight parking spaces with a truck.
Bill
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camaro396
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2/24/2002
19:21:00
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There were several japanese cars that had this as a very expensive option in the early 90's. It never took off due to the price and complexity.
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graphite
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2/24/2002
19:23:32
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It is a nice idea but a $3,500 option and 350 lbs of extra weight. Not worth the trade off in my book.
joe
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2002 quad cab 4x2 Atlantic blue/silver
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DaveR
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2/24/2002
19:47:52
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I have riden in a mazda 626 with this feature. In that car I couldn't feel a difference. The rear wheels turned up to 6 degrees and proportionaly to the speed; the faster it went, the less the rear wheels turned.
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Hersbird
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2/24/2002
19:58:00
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You better like the factory ride height and tire size as I bet it is really pricey to try and change! What I can't believe is how they make backing that trailer up look so easy. I really don't think this system would keep a trailer that straight while backing, and think the ad is misleading in that way.
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Bill
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2/24/2002
20:17:54
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I noticed the boat backing up bit too. While I don't think this system would make it that easy, if it did in fact make such a difference I would really think about the option!
Bill
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BlackDak02
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2/25/2002
02:03:31
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Yeah, I know the boat backing bit must be staged, there's no way that the truck can sense how the trailer is going to track, IMO.
2002 Black CC SLT 4x4
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SuperBeeDak
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2/25/2002
13:09:11
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they should use the same setup as the steering on the stealth RT's and 3000gt's...that's sweet
soon as you hit 40mph...hello the rear wheels turn too..weeeeeeee!
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JimB
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2/25/2002
13:49:22
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Yep - saw that commercial. This isn't new technology. I remember well the 88 Mazda 626 with this option. You think you have ball-joint issues/concerns now --!!! Take all your front issues and double it with this set up.
99 SY 3.9 Dakota Sport
99 PB 5.9 Durango SLT
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Bill
Dodge Dakota
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2/25/2002
14:08:22
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I will withold my true judgement on the setup until I see some user/magazine reviews and some long term tests. I have no plans of getting rid of my Dakota for this thing anytime soon!
Bill
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Dave Mitchell
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2/25/2002
15:16:11
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Yeah...
Check out the gas mileage figures, also. I think there is a penalty in using CV joints.
Wheel alignments will cost more, I'm guessing, as it will require a four-wheel alignment.
The "tighter turn radius" will be somewhat reduced due to the use of CV joints in the front and rear. I haven't checked lately, but I believe the turn radius was smaller on my 4x2 Dakota than the 4x4 Dakota, if I recall correctly. Have to limit the amount of travel on the steering for axles with CV joints.
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Hersbird
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2/25/2002
23:04:42
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My 2000 RC R/T seems to turn in as small a radius as my old Neon would. It almost turns as sharp as the mailtrucks I drive but they are the tightest turning thing I have ever driven (besides a ATV or motorcycle I guess!) The new 4WD mailtrucks suck at tight turning and need a 3 point turn every time.
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