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Joe E.
Dodge Dakota
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2/02/2002
15:35:45
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OK, My 1990 Dak. 3in body lift, 2in susp Rough Counrty lift. Run 31x10.50s.
My question. With the 2in RC susp lift, you are sent front 2in spacers and 2 rear add a leafs that are advertised at 1-1.5in lift. What I am getting at. My truck has problems with the rear corners of the front fender wells hitting the tires. I cut them back alittle but when hitting a trail hard, I still get the rubbing. I talked to a AIM Ind. rep about getting a set of thier 2in rear lift shackels. But then he said you have to use them with the 4in lift hangers. Thats like 6in of lift, way over the 1-2inches I want.
I want to lift the rear another 2inches to get that rubbing prob. outa the way. Plus my back end sags alittle anyway. Could I relocate the stock hangers that are bolted to the frame 2in lower so the rear end of my truck will be 2in higher? I only want 2in lift more. Not 6in like the other methods had. Thanks.
Joe E.
I dont get this anyway. AIM sells a 3in front end lift. Then they sell a 6in rear lift. What gives?
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2THEXTRM
GenIII
2/02/2002
16:24:07
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If you have enough frame to relocate the spring hangers down 2" that would work, just precisely measure and do one side at a time to maintain rear-end alignment. I see you have 2wd, if you already flipped the axle under the springs(probably not), I suggest using a 2" lift block and longer u-bolts. If not, you will get 4" of rear lift by placing axle under spring which is more than you are looking for unless you remove the parts you used for the 2" rear suspension lift(drop shackles?) and return it to "stock" then you would end up with the 4" total you are looking for. This would be the easiest and most economical route. I used 1.5" lift blocks and leveled out front with torsion bar adjustment since my axle was already under the springs.
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3 inch body and 1.5 Block Lift, 33x11.50-16's
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Joe E.
Dodge Dakota
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2/03/2002
10:57:48
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Thanks man. I think part of my problem is the leaf springs are old and saggen. So the manufacture of the 2in susp lift could not take that into account. I will look into flipping the axel and removing the "add-a-leafs". I also looked at the frame of my Dak yesterday amd saw there is not enough room to drill new frame holes for the hangers. But do you think that the hangers them selves could have new holes drilled higher 2in to lift my rear up? Just a thought.
Thanks again man.
Joe E.
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2THEXTRM
GenIII
2/03/2002
12:37:37
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You carry alot of weight in the bed or do alot of towing? Springs don't normally sag under normal conditions. You could always buy a couple spring packs off a Dak from a junkyard(should be plenty around since you have a 1990) for pretty cheap if they are that bad. If you moved the hangers down, I don't think you would have enough steel against the frame to keep it strong enough and might have twisting problems with any axle wrap. I would really look at the axle flip first before you tried that, it should work and look great if front end is same height.
Flowmaster cat back, Air Raid CAD and homemade TB connect, Poweraid TB Spacer, Splitfire Plugs
3 inch body and 1.5 Block Lift, 33x11.50-16's
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Joe E.
Dodge Dakota
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2/03/2002
13:03:05
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Yeah, I kinda have that toad look. We call them mud jumpers here. I guess because when the front of the truck is higher than the rear, it looks like a frog about to go airborn. I will look into that axel flip. When you do that, do you simply replace the axels under the springs? Or are you requires to rotate the axel itself? I know my cousin did the axle fip to a jeep CJ-5 Scrambler. But he actually took the axel and rotated it where the left tire was on the right and visa versa. Well, thanks for the help.
Have a good Super Bowl evening!
Joe E.
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2THEXTRM
GenIII
2/03/2002
13:19:06
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Depends if the spring perches are welded to axle, if they are, then you would remove springs and flip axle like your buddy did so that the perches would be on the top and bolt right back up, little more work but still a free lift. If the perches are not welded then you could just remove springs, perches, u-bolts, etc. and place everything on top of the axle without flipping axle itself. Good-luck and let me know how it turned out with pics if you can get some!!
GO RAMS!!!!!
Flowmaster cat back, Air Raid CAD and homemade TB connect, Poweraid TB Spacer, Splitfire Plugs
3 inch body and 1.5 Block Lift, 33x11.50-16's
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CW
GenIII
2/03/2002
14:11:10
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LOL if you flip the alxe over it will reverse the direction. HAHA you could go really fast backwards.;)
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Joe E.
Dodge Dakota
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2/03/2002
14:26:48
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Yeah, that backwards thing is not what I am looking for! haha. I might just buy new perches. Or what ever they are called. It might be easier in the longrun. Thanks for the help.
Go Rams!!!, Go Pats!!!
Doesnt matter to me, neither the Bucks, Fins, or Lions are in the hunt. As a matter of fact, they are all very far from the hunt!haha
Basically, Go USA!
Joe E.
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2THEXTRM
GenIII
2/03/2002
16:54:51
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LOL CW, your right, didn't think of that after reading the jeep axle flip story. Sounded like a good idea! Could always drive forward in reverse down the highway after changing to higher reverse gearing:)
Thanks for spotting and correcting CW, sorry Joe.
Flowmaster cat back, Air Raid CAD and homemade TB connect, Poweraid TB Spacer, Splitfire Plugs
3 inch body and 1.5 Block Lift, 33x11.50-16's
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Joe E.
Dodge Dakota
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2/03/2002
19:27:23
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Yeah, thet sounds right. You gotta admit, it would be UNIQUE! But somehow my cuz did do something like that. I will ask him more about it because now you guys have me intrested in his situation.
Thanks again.
Joe E.
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Joe E.
Dodge Dakota
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2/04/2002
19:01:44
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OK, today I called up AIM and got ahold of a guy who was very helpful. He checked into everything just to make sure that what I was told prior to today was true. Which it wasnt. After a little looking, he found a lift shackle that was 2inches that could be used on my 1990 Dak 2wd with out using the 4in lift hangers. This was great news to me! He said they were not on the new computer system they have or something like that and it took a manual check to find the remaining few in stock.
Also, today I was using a grinder to trim away some more fender material. I am not worried about the looks of it because I also have Bushwaker flairs on there. I used a jack and lifted the rear of my truck just to see what 2in would look like. It really looked alot better. More agresive too. The rear did not sag looking like a scared pup running away with its tail between its knees. I also got a pair of 1.5in wheel spacers for the rear. So we will see how all this works out. Thanks for the help guys. Much appreciated!
Joe E.
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Jim
Dodge Dakota
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2/04/2002
20:28:33
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Did he give a part number for the shackles?I have a 94 2wd with the rough country spacer and the back is a little lower
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92dakotahd
GenII
2/04/2002
22:28:33
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Hey! What exactly is the lift you guys have and where did you get it? I am looking for an intermediate lift to get some bigger tires until I can convert to 4X4. Just curious
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Joe E.
Dodge Dakota
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2/05/2002
13:38:20
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Jim, Ill get it when the shackles arrive. Ill post it here OK. or you could call AIM ind. at 1800-892-8789.
92 Dakotahd, I used the Rough Country 2in spacer lift. A rear set of "Add-a-leafs" is used in the rear. The system also comes with Heckelthorn shocks. It wont give you a lon of lift but if it is only gonna be temporary, Id be ok I guess. I want to get the AIM ind. 3in coil spring lift. Its like $350.00 plus installiation. Right now they are doing a thing where if you buy a font and rear lift from them, they will install it for free at one of thier stores. The closest to me is Miami. I though about that too. But Id only get 1in lift out it. $500.00 for 1in lift, not sure its worth it.
Ill let you guys know when the stuff comes in OK.
Joe E.
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92dakotahd
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2/05/2002
15:17:32
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So what's the highest lift they make for the 2WD? I am not an expert at suspensions by any means and looked on their website, I saw parts but do they have somewhere to find complete kits? I'm not quick enough to pick all the right pieces and put it all together. I have a friend who can put almost any lift on I just need to find the lift. Any help is much appreciated.
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Joe E.
Dodge Dakota
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2/05/2002
20:35:28
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92Dakotahd, You asked the right guy. I have searched and researched just about every company I could find to find lift kits for my truck. I have been looking at the AIM ind. 3in suspension lift for a while now. It uses ,for the front, a 3in lift coil, & an upper control arm. For the rear, you can use the 4in lift hangers. Then youd be set. See with our Dakota's rack and pinion steering, we can only lift a maxium of 3in suspension. So that pretty well sucks for us who want to run 35s or something.
You can also get a 3in body lift for Trailmaster. it requires alittle fabrication of the steering column. An extender is needed, no biggie. But then you are still looking at running 32in tires. Not real huge, but still look nice.
I am trying to get AIM to make a 3in lift spindle for our GenI daks. That would give us 2wd people 9 inches of lift. Then the 35s can come. But that is months away, if they decide to do it. You can also go with the Rough Counrty 2in suspention lift. It cast me about $350.00 to have it done. So for like a few more bucks, youll get another inch lift using AIM.
Other than that, we dont have anything. I have contacted a company called Glass works unlimited about making fiberglass fender for our Daks. It like adding a 2in lift in tire increase means. So they told me! But that is not going yet. But is avaliable if your willing to send your stock fenders to them. Good Luck
Joe E.
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92dakotahd
GenII
2/05/2002
21:24:18
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Ok, thanks for all of your help, I've been looking on their site and am confused about the 3 different control arms they offer for my Dak and the prices They have:
87-96 DAKOTA LIFTED 3 IN UPPER ARMS W/COILS
$379.00
87-96 DAKOTA LIFTED 3 INXTREME ARM KIT
$875.00
87-96 DAKOTA LIFTED UPPER C/ARMS
$188.00
What's the difference? This may be simple but I just don't see it, the math on the arms and coils doesn't even add up. It's actually more expensive to buy them together than apart assuming the ones for the 97+ are the same as for my 92 dak. thanks again for any help.
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Joe E.
Dodge Dakota
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2/06/2002
23:51:08
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92Dakotahd, I dont know about the package to seperate prices. I do know about the lifts somewhat though. The $379.00 lift includes 3in lift coils, and lifted upper A amrs. This will give you 3in flat out lift. What I need to install to do what I like to do.
Or you got the X treme 3in lift. Like $800.00 That is also a flat 3 inches but you get lift coils, upper and LOWER arms. This will give you more suspension travel. For major off roading or rock crawling. Not me or for my truck. Too much.
I have not seen the lifted upper C arms. Maybe it is just the arma alone. At $188., then you gotta buy the coils, which is more. I dunno. All I can say is callem.
If your like me. Like the big tire look, but only do light trails and mud, then you really only need the 3in $379.00 lift. But its up to you!
As for the 92 Daks and new Daks suspension parts, I dunno tht either. My 1990 Doesnt have new Daks parts I know that! Hope I helped.
Joe E.
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