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csmith
Dodge Dakota
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4/26/2011
17:02:29
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Having problems with my 96 Dakota 3.9L V6. 200,000+ miles
The vehicle will not start back up after short trips. It is getting spark and will start then choke itself out. If you step on the gas it will run. No problems once started and running
The condition is worse the shorter the time between trips. Has been an intermittent problem for the last couple of months, I always managed to get it started but the other day, it wouldn’t, so I found out how to check the codes using the ignition switch and the codes were: 12, 45, 45, 55. The code sheet I have, said that 45 was to do with the OD solenoid either shorted, or open. I ended up getting it started and I took it to a garage, they said that their code reader didn’t bring up any codes. Which I didn’t understand, how is it that, it will flash codes, but none are brought up using a code reader? So the mechanic said by going off what I told them he thought it might be the crank position sensor. So they replaced that. So I guess we’ll see if it happens again. Anyway, are the codes for 96’ the same as the pre-96 codes? Any code info would be helpful Thanks
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Bob Lincoln
Dodge Dakota
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4/27/2011
08:16:51
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Are you sure it's code 45? I have:
45 Turbo boost limit exceeded (engine was shut down by logic module)
which would not apply to a Dakota.
http://www.allpar.com/fix/80s-codes.html
It's common for these to start and immediately die on a hot start. Sometimes changing the TPS will help, sometimes not. I have not found a permanent fix. Keeping your foot on the gas and very slowly letting up after about 10 seconds seems to keep it running.
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02dak4.7
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4/27/2011
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The solution is never just let it go. From the sound of it i would say clean the Idle Air Control motor, its on the back of the throttle body and is what provides your engine with air when you start and idle your truck.
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csmith
Dodge Dakota
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4/27/2011
16:32:20
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According to the Code list I have, A code of 45 is “Transmission OD solenoid circuit shorted or open”.
The reason I’m asking is because the code list I have said it was for “pre 96” but it’s all I can find. Also I did just recently have to replace my OD cancel switch, which might explain why this code is showing up. After he replaced my crank position sensor, I noticed the engine running a little rough on the drive home, but later on a second drive, seemed to idle and run fine, but the “check engine” light came on and stayed on, so upon checking the codes again, now in addition to the 45 code it’s showing code 43, which again, on my list, refers to “Multiple/single cylinder misfire” which would explain the “roughness” in running I had on my 1st drive home. I have not encountered the problem with the truck not starting since, which was my original problem. I’m still at a loss why my mechanic’s code reader didn’t show the 45 code?
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DuHHHHHHHHHhh
Dodge Dakota
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4/28/2011
10:03:08
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Once again booby lincoln proves to be an idiot!
This guy is forever passing along bad info..
45* Transmission OD solenoid circuit short or open
condition detected
http://dodgeforum.com/forum/1st-gen-dakota/239969-
obdi-pre-96-codes.html
csmith get it up safely on ramps
check to see if the OD is plugged in securely
if so then unplug it
spray the plug and all connectors with some brake
cleaner
may be dirty with oil/trans fluid/PS fluid
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other bill
Dodge Dakota
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4/28/2011
13:26:03
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DuHHHHHHHHHhh,
Actually...What Bob passed on was data that he acquired from a reputable website (even provided the link), and questioned if csmith may have misread the code...identifying that the explanation he was referrencing indicated it did not match up with a Dakota (no turbo).
What you did was bash him for attempting to help someone. It is great that you found a more accurate description of the code list and provided a link, but your means of delivery undermines the reason for sites like this and deters others from coming here.
Had you left out the 1st two lines of your response, it would have been just as valuable and you would have probably recieved a 'public' thank you from Bob himself for providing more up-to-date info.
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Bob Lincoln
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4/28/2011
16:19:13
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And once again the trolls demonstrate why insults are more common than helpful posts here. At allpar.com, you would get only the latter, as we moderate posts and ban anyone who violates the rules of service with personal attacks, etc.
The code 45 may indeed be incorrect at the link I posted, I will check my references and have it corrected if necessary.
Bear in mind, though, that a fault O/D circuit would not cause the symptoms reported. The AIS, along with TPS, are more likely candidates.
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Bob Lincoln
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4/28/2011
16:22:59
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Bear in mind also, that the OBDI codes go back to about 1984, and some pre-date overdrive transmissions. Sometimes the codes are dependent on vehicle type and vintage, so the description of code 45 that I posted may be valid for certain mid-80s vehicles. Some codes do have multiple descriptions.
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fosure
Dodge Dakota
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4/29/2011
11:03:20
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"Bob passed on was data that he acquired from a
reputable website (even provided the link)"
Seems to me that's what duhh did too, Except duhh
had the correct info. So who & what site is better?
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