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BooHoo
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If you are working "3 jobs" to make your $600 rent payment you should move back with your parents and finish your education. I doubt that "millions" are in your situation.
There must be a lot of "psychologicly unstable individuals" in Connecticut and it sounds like you are a typical representation.
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dodger
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You are incorrect about everything you just said.
Try living in Connecticut- oh, and you can't have help from anyone.
1>I never attack innocent people on the roads-I am one of the few very sain people in Connecticut that respect the law and other people's lives.
You may be a typical representation of psychologicly unstable if you deny things that are happening to the USA these days.
2>It shows how uneducated you are (maybe you should go back to school) about things, because the typical Connecticut resident IS INDEED unable to afford the cost of living.
Are you aware of how densely poulated the New York region of the United States is?
A typical Connecticut city has populations in the millions.
The way most of them find a way is by living beyond their means and posessing negative wealth, or,
indeed many Connecticut residents cannot afford to move out of their parents' house and ARE INDEED living off their parents for a percentage of their income. (they still work for the rest).
The 3-job workers DO make at or around minimum wage, but the government still takes 1/3rd of their pay.
The skilled trade 1-job 40 hour per week worker gets the money they need to meet living costs in one 40 hour paycheck which the gov takes 1/3rd of.
The 3-job minimum wage worker still has to make the same amout of money as them to live, which at minimum wage means more hours per week.
Their 3 paychecks are smaller amounts, therefore claiming the same number of dependants, the percentage the gov takes is less from each check, but the total income of all 3 checks added together is the same as the skilled worker's 40 hour check, and in the same tax bracket.
If the 3-job worker doesn't claim fewer dependants to make the gov take 1/3rd of their check, they will owe alot of tax at the end of the year.
The problem:
Different states have different costs of living.
States where the cost of living is cheaper have lower pay scales accordingly.
The FEDERAL tax brackets are still the same for all states. $10hour could be a fortune in one state, but poverty in Connecticut.
The gov. still taxes $10/ hour as if it was a lot of money.
You said it all yourself when you said that people that have to work 3 jobs are probably making minimum wage.
You admitted that what the gov calls the minimum wage you need to live on is, is far below what it really is in Connecticut, getting back to national labor strikes to demand fair pay.
The set minimum wage in Connecticut is a little over half what the min. wage to live on is.
In the past 10 years prices of everything have doubled but the minimum wage has not. That is look-upable proof.
There definately is a corrolation between the crime anarchy deterioration in the Connecticut area and the unaffodable cost of living in Connecticut.
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X
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Not that it will make you feel better or even care, but in 1972 oil was $3/barrel and gas was $.36/gallon. Today oil is $104/barrel and gas is $3.30/gal. If gas prices were proportional to oil prices we would be paying $12.48/gal. for gas. It would appear that the profit margins were much higher in 1972 than they are today.
Were you really better off in 1972?
Minimum wage was $64/wk and 20 gallons of gas cost you 11% of that income.
Today minimum was is $234/wk and 20 gallons of costs you 28% of that income.
Doesn't look good until you examine it a bit closer. In 72 you couldn't find a decent beater for 4X your weekly wage or about $250. Today I wouldn't have a difficult time finding a usable beater for 4X the weekly minimum wage or $1000. In 72 you would be lucky to get 12-15 mpg in that beater but it wouldn't be difficult to find a beater today that gets 25-30 mpg.
That 20 gallon requirement in 72 now becomes 10 gallons to travel the same distance and the cost of gas remains about the same percentage of your income.
Not feeling any better? Me neither but that's the way it really was back then compared to today.
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STS
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4/03/2008
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It’s good to finally read intelligent post. So even though it might be off-topic. Keep up the good work X and dodger. It just might begin to seek in to some of these other people.
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dodger
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Yes, the reason I got into the conversation is because someone other people from Connecticut found this thread, and discuss the serious problems going on in our area.
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BooHoo
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4/03/2008
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"A typical Connecticut city has populations in the millions."
Dodger, it's not difficult to show that you are wrong about that. The entire state has only 3,502,309 (2007). Even the largest city in Connecticut doesn't have a population "in the millions."
If you don't know those simple facts, how do you expect to have any credibility? Every thing you post is an exaggeration and the above statement is just one example.
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BooHoo
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STS, did you read X's post? It shows that you are not much worse off today than you were in the 70's. It shows that gas is much cheaper in relation to the cost of oil. Oil companies are make far less profit on a barrel of oil than it did in 1972 when oil was only $3 a barrel.
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dodger
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4/04/2008
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Most of Connecticut is farmland and rural hills.
Most of that population is in the urban areas.
There is absolutely no exaggeration about the motor vehicle lawlessness, and even attacks on people, and the cost of living doubling in the past 10 years is not either, and that can be researched and see the prices of things then as compared to now and what pay was for a given job compared to now for that same job.
People are losing their apartments and that is no joke.
The graph of how the payscales aren't keeping up with inflation shows an economic collapse coming when those 2 lines on the graph cross.
Keep playing pretend that everything is OK.
The people who would rather be aware of danger will have the common sence to know when to run.
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X
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11% of your income for gas in 1972,
28% of your income for gas in 2008.
BooHoo says gas is cheaper now?
Yeah, and there are no motor vehicle attacks in USA, and people can afford a decent living in Connecticut.
Sounds like Alice in Wonderland.
See any Cheshire cats lately?
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The corrupt corporations working with the US government fix the figures to make it appear that everything is alright.
Use your own judgement.
Listen to the radio stations playing the same recording every day like Orwell's 1984. That is the sound of the United States being destroyed.
Look at the crime and anarchy in the northeast USA out of control and law enforcement standing by and letting it happen right in front of them and ignore it. That is
Corporate Al Capone you are seeing.
Look at the statistics of prices in the northeast USA doubling in 10 years without pay scales following it resulting in extreme economic hardship for millions of citizens-----
all because a small percentage of the population is greedy and sucks the money out of the economy so there is hardly any left for society to function.
Destruction of a nation-inside job, not with guns but with money. Destroy USA economy from within, and don't enforce the laws so that Americans will kill themselves off, so the country can go under martial law, and the totaliarism begins.
It's all part of a chess game the crooked government and corporations have been playing the people with.
EVERYTHING WAS PLANNED!
The Savings and Loan scandal in 1987 where the money was never recovered,
the lifting of corporate monopoly laws in the 1990s letting corporations run wild aquiring control of everything,
then the fixing of the elections in 2000,
then 9/11
then the stock market fraud and exposure of selected corporations in 2002, with none of that money recovered and reimbursed to the people who were robbed,
the Iraq invasion,
making the American citizen financialy helpless by breaking them with gasoline prices, and oil prices affecting the cost of other vital necessities,
The next stage of their destruction makes me shutter to think about.
KEEP FOLLOWING THE PIED PIPER decieve you into their tricks.
You are not safe.
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BTW, BooHoo is proven wrong about the economy and unemployment:
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"Inflation declined in 07. Unemployment is less than 4.5%"
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Jobs Slashed, Pointing to Recession
Friday April 4, 11:43 am ET
By Jeannine Aversa, AP Economics Writer
Employers Chopped 80,000 Jobs Last Month; Jobless Rate Rose to 5.1 Percent
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Employers buffeted by talk of recession slashed 80,000 jobs in March, the most in five years and the third straight month of losses.
At the same time, the national unemployment rate rose from 4.8 percent to 5.1 percent, the clearest signal yet that the economy might already be shrinking.
The new snapshot of the job market, released by the Labor Department Friday, underscored the damage that a trio of crises --in the housing, credit and financial sectors -- has inflicted on companies, jobseekers and the economy as a whole.
"The labor market has indeed turned south," said Joel Naroff, president of Naroff Economic Advisors. "That was the one last bastion of hope to stay out of a recession. Now the question is how deep and how long will it last?"
The unemployment rate was the highest since September 2005, when significant job losses followed the devastating blows of Gulf Coast hurricanes.
Job losses were widespread in March. Construction, manufacturing, retailing, financial services and various business services all racked up losses. That overwhelmed gains elsewhere, including in education and health care, leisure and hospitality as well as in government.
On Wall Street, stocks fell, with the Dow Jones industrials down more than 30 points in morning trading.
The new employment figures were much weaker than economists were expecting. They were anticipating a drop of 50,000 payroll jobs and the unemployment rate to rise to 5 percent.
The 5.1 percent rate, while relatively modest by historical standards, was the highest in 2 1/2 years.
Job cuts in both January and February turned out to be even deeper. Employers got rid of 76,000 in each month. The elimination of 80,000 jobs in March was the most since March 2003, when the labor market was still struggling to recover from the 2001 recession.
"We don't like to see one job lost, let alone 80,000," Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez said in an interview with The Associated Press. "These are challenging times," he said. Gutierrez was hopeful that economy would turn around in the second half of this year given relief efforts by the government and the Federal Reserve. "We'll get through this."
The economy is suffering the effects of a housing collapse, a credit crunch and a financial system in turmoil. That's causing people and businesses to hunker down, crimping spending, capital investment and hiring. Those things in turn further weaken the economy in what has become a vicious cycle.
For the first time, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke acknowledged Wednesday that the country could be heading toward a recession, saying federal policymakers are "fighting against the wind" in combating it. Many other economists and the public believe the recession already has arrived.
Bernanke wouldn't tip his hand about the Fed's next move. However, many economists believe the central bank will lower interest rates again when they meet later this month, and they said Friday's employment report would justify another reduction perhaps by half a point.
The Fed has taken a number of extraordinary actions recently -- slashing interest rates, providing financial backing to JP Morgan's takeover of troubled Bear Stearns and opening an emergency lending program for big investment houses. All the actions are ultimately aimed at limiting damage to the national economy.
With a public on edge, Congress, the White House and presidential contenders are scrambling to come up with their own relief plans even as they engage in a political blame game.
In March, construction companies cut 51,000 jobs, factories eliminated 48,000 positions, retailers cut payrolls by more than 12,000. Professional and businesses services lost 35,000 jobs and temporary help firms cut nearly 22,000 jobs. Financial firms chopped 5,000 jobs.
When government hiring was removed, the numbers looked even worse. Private employers shed 98,000 jobs in March.
With the pace of hiring slowing down, the number of unemployed people increased to 7.8 million in March; workers with jobs saw only modest wage gains at the same time.
Average hourly earnings for jobholders rose to $17.86 in March, a 0.3 percent increase from the previous month. That matched economists' forecasts. Over the past 12 months, wages grew 3.6 percent. With lofty energy and food prices, workers may feel like their paychecks are shrinking.
Many analysts believe the economy shrank in the first three months of this year and could still be ebbing now. The government will release its estimate of first-quarter economic growth later this month. Under one rough rule, if the economy contracts for six straight months it is considered in a recession.
Bernanke and the Bush administration, however, are hopeful the economy will improve in the second half of this year, helped by the government's $168 billion stimulus package of tax rebates for people and tax breaks for businesses, as well as the Fed's rate reductions.
Still, even Bernanke predicted this week that the unemployment rate would rise in the months ahead. Some analysts say it could climb to 5.5 percent or higher by year's end.
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http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080404/economy.html
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N56629
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4/04/2008
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BooHoo, X stole that post from me. Neither STS nor dodger are not capable of understanding the contents.
Every generation has had thier share of Chicken Littles that keep yelling that the sky is falling. Eventually they all go the way of the dinosaur.
Nothing new here. You are wasting your time. They get all their info from talking heads on Fox TV.
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I Sell Them
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4/04/2008
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Keep gas prices up there.
I'm making a killing selling hybrids.
People are so stupid, they're buying hybrids cause the price of gas is high or they want to lower their "carbon footprint". Carbon footprint my achin' ass. That footprint is gonna get mighty big when it comes time to replace the batteries.
But hell. BRING IT!!
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BooHoo
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I doubt that you are a salesman of any sort. Hybrid batteries run between three and six thousand dollars. Many carry an 8/80,000 warranty or better.
How much does it cost to replace the engine or tranny in a Dakota?
"February 2008 sales of hybrid cars totalled 22,441 units. This figure is almost identical to the January figure of 22,411 units. Of the 13 hybrid car models on sale, 9 models showed increases when compared to their January's sales figures.However February's 2008 overall figure of 22,441 hybrid car sales, is down approximately 5% when compared to the February 2007 figure of 23,746 units."
www.hybridcar.com
There are over 23,000 new car dealers in the US. That means they sell an average of one per dealer per month. Granted they don't all sell hybrids but then they are not a very hot item. If that is all you sell then you are probably on welfare most of the time.
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4/05/2008
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Another drive by shooting/motor vehicle terrorist attack in Hartford Connecticut last night. Murders are the usual thing there. A rash of bank robberies in the Waterbury Connecticut area, to name a few examples of how GREAT American society is.
N56629 thinks this is O.K.
Could it be that every generation is simply observing an exponetial deterioration of American society? Yes.
The 2000s generation says the 1990s were better.
The 1990s generation says the 1980s were better.
The 1980s generation says the 1970s were better.
The 1970s generation says the 1960s were better.
The 1960s generation says the 1950s were better.....
Seems like a pattern here. Uhhh, the United States is steadily deteriorating.
The story isn't that of Chicken Little,
It is that of Noah's Ark.....
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"All you zombies hide your faces
All you people in the street
All you sittin' in high places
The pieces gonna fall on you
No one ever spoke to Noah
They all laughed at him instead
Working on his ark
Working all by himself
Only Noah saw it coming
Forty days and forty nights
Took his sons and daughters with him
Yeah, they were the Israelites
The rain's gonna fall on you
Holy Father, what's the matter
Where have all your children gone
Sitting in the dark
Living all by themselves
You don't have to hide any more
All you zombies show your faces...
The pieces gonna fall on you
All you zombies show your faces, I know you're out there
All you people in the street, let's see you
All you sittin' in high places
It's all gonna fall on you"
-The Hooters
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ChickenLittle
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THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLY!
In a killing spree, several drive-by tornados murdered 47 people in Tenn., Ark., Ala., Ky., and Mo. over a two day period.
Don't tell me that the sky isn't FALLING. This country can't last much longer. Soon the US will fall and then the rest of world and all of humanity.
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ChickenLittle
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THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!
The terroist SKY has claimed another victim. This time an innocent two year old girl.
JACKSON, Mississippi (AP) -- Strong thunderstorms toppled trees, knocked out power and damaged homes across the South on Friday, while flooding in Kentucky forced evacuations and left a 2-year-old girl dead.
You can hide from the truth but eventually it will hit close to home. This country is being destroyed by global warming corporation and the high cost of pizza and coffee.
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BooHoo
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Hm mm, what to make of dodger's disastrous unemployment rate of 5.1%. When he was born the rate was almost in the double digits. Poor little Connecticut must be a couple tenths higher for sure.
How did the US ever survive a decade of unemployment in the 20% range? I guess they were not such whinny wimps back then. They certainly didn't sit on the internet whining about it.
Year Ann Avg
1948 3.8
1949 5.9
1950 5.3
1951 3.3
1952 3.0
1953 2.9
1954 5.5
1955 4.4
1956 4.1
1957 4.3
1958 6.8
1959 5.5
1960 5.5
1961 6.7
1962 5.5
1963 5.7
1964 5.2
1965 4.5
1966 3.8
1967 3.8
1968 3.6
1969 3.5
1970 4.9
1971 5.9
1972 5.6
1973 4.9
1974 5.6
1975 8.5
1976 7.7
1977 7.1
1978 6.1
1979 5.8
1980 7.1
1981 7.6
1982 9.7
1983 9.6
1984 7.5
1985 7.2
1986 7.0
1987 6.2
1988 5.5
1989 5.3
1990 5.6
1991 6.8
1992 7.5
1993 6.9
1994 6.1
1995 5.6
1996 5.4
1997 4.9
1998 4.5
1999 4.2
2000 4.0
2001 4.7
2002 5.8
2003 6.0
2004 5.5
2005 5.1
2006 4.6
March 2008 5.1
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BooHoo
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What about our disastrous inflation rate for the past year. The inflation rate for 2007 was an unalarming 2.85%. The average inflation rate for the past decade has been less than 5% but what about the good old day back in the 70's and 80's. Turns out that a number of years averaged in the DOUBLE DIGITS, namely 1974, 1979-1981. The fact is most of the 70's and early 80's averaged well over 6%.
Even if prices have double in the last decade, which I doubt they have, it would mean an average rate of less than 7%. That's a long way from the paranoia that dodger is experiencing.
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dodger
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What does unemployment have to do with it? I only retorted BooHoo's claim that unemployment was low with a news article I did not write, but linked to.
Unemployment is being affected by the collapse of the United States economy from greed and corruption,
but unemployment figures don't tell how bad it is because many people are being grossly underpaid.
How many are employed does not tell anything.
The payscales of average typical citizens (no overpaid loser wimps averaged in that throw the statistic), compared to cost of living prices, is the figure.
It is a RATIO of normal incomes per living costs that reflect the United States collapsing into a pile of rubble.
Heres an analogy.
In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed but didn't collapse. People were shook up but ignored the wake-up call.
The problem was allowed to fester and by 2001 the whole thing came down.
The WTC is a perfect model for the entire Unites States. The United States is collapsing and the wimpy BooHoos will be sitting in their offices pretending everything is alright while the ones that are in touch with what is going on in the world around them will have gone to safe distance a long time ago, watching the evil destroy themselves.
Ask any World Trade Center survivors if the sky was falling on September 11th 2001.
It's hard for the closed minded shell livers to imagine bitter hollocaustic realities until it happens.
IT IS COMING, THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
The United States is being destroyed by it's own greed, and disregard for human life.
It HAS been getting worse and worse every decade,
and has not got better at any time period.
There is only so far it can deteriorate without it's integrity breaking.
The breaking point is very close, and that is no fairy tale!
Tornadoes don't think. They do not have free will to comit genocide. Humans do.
A tornado DID NOT blow up the World Trade Center.
Tornadoes do not gouge oil prices.
Tornadoes do not lie in advertizements to try to aquire people's money dishonestly.
Tornadoes do not plot terrorist attacks against society.
Tornadoes do not blame all the purposely caused fatal crashes due to severe disobedience of traffic laws, on the condition of the road, to prevent the police from looking bad for not doing their job to stop the crime that caused the crash. (part of the scheme is to sugar coat or cover up the deliberately caused crashes, the #1 threat to the United States right now and statisticly proven by the deaths and injuries per year that are deliberately caused; excluding genuine accidents. Thousands and thousands of crashes deliberately caused, but the media and politicians rarely acknowledge the cause as being deliberate, or sugar coat the crime by saying subtle things like "lost control of their vehicle" or "don't know why they were driving at accessive speed on the wrong side of the road" or "failure to observe traffic signals".
They are saying DEATH TO AMERICA everytime they cator to the motor vehicle terrorists on a mission to destroy the United States AND ARE SUCCEEDING!
The planes that crashed into the World Trade Center "failed to observe their flight plan and accidently lost control of their planes" Sounds kind of silly doesn't it?
The car in Iraq "accidently blew up". Ya right.
Anyone that denies the deliberateness of the motor vehicle crashes (the ones that are blatently deliberate), are anti-American and supporting the attack of, and destruction of the United States every time they deny or belittle the severity of the deliberate attacks on US citizens with motor vehicles that are going on in droves every day and are part of an anti-American campaign.
Great American free enterprise=
Charging as little as you can get away with to get all of your competitors customers.
Corporate dictatorship monopolies=
Charge as much as you can get away with up to the maximum people will pay= Inevitable Economic destruction.
Only whinny wimps cry that everything is OK and no one should be saying it isn't, as the wall are already in the process of crumbling down.
REAL ME FACE THE FACTS-as I am.
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Bin Ladin
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"Even if prices have double in the last decade, which I doubt they have"
They have [in Connecticut]
Do some research before you post. That is completely researchable.
The cost of about any product or service in Connecticut is about exactly 200% of what it was in 1998.
It is true, but don't believe me, look it up!
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