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Free Nation
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Because in a FREE nation, the goverment cann,t grab control of private property. Only the stockholders can do that! If you have a 401K-you propably are a stockholder-VOTE! Wanting the goverment to replace people is communist...In america- the president does not have the power to steal property in the name of the piss ants like you. If you want to demand anything-tell congress to give the permits needed to build more refinerys. The goverment CAN demand that they build more!
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Super bee
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3/04/2008
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diesel is $3.69-$3.74 per gallon
$110 to fill up
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WiseMan
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Free Nation,
You do have a point. I guess it's like we are all wild horses, and when the grazing grass runs dry we move on to something else.
There is a catch 22 behind the whole thing, where society is designed in such a way that we need these things to conform or be outcast.
We are free to be bums living off the land like free spirited hippies, but we would be outcasts because we don't drive, can't have a good job that requires driving to get to, or an education, etc.
A government is formed for the purpose of protecting us, and that's it.
It shouldn't tell us what to do, control our lives, make our choices or steal our property.
I DOES need to stop bad guys who are running around loose killing our citizens with cars,
It should make corporations have to pay taxes, the IRS should audit those who have a rediculous amount of money, etc. In other words, the government should have mechanisms in place so the wealth is spread, which protects the country from the disaster that is coming from 1% of the population hording 99% of the wealth.
If the wealth is spread, then good 'ol free enterprise competition will re-emerge.
There will be colorful choices, the quality will go back up, and the prices will go back down from the competition.
THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO STOP STEALING PEOPLE'S COLLEGE MONEY in taxes that are supposed to pay for student aid programs that the government has been welching on providing to ELIGIBLE American kids. The government just blows it off and won't do anything to correct any beuracratical errors they make- to get out of paying up!
The government should stabalize our economy instead of siding with a few greed obsessed corporations to be paid off to break the law, and become totaliarist with these small hanful of the government's 'pet' corporations owning everything,
(there's your communism),
The government should leave people who are doing good alone, BUT seize anyone that is commiting crime, like on the roads killing people in the pandemic of perfuse motor vehicle suicide
missions missions that is going on in large numbers in the Northeast USA now, and the corporations owning everything so there is no more free enterprize and competition controlling quality and inflation.
Lack of COMPETITION and lack of American kids being able to get college EDUCATIONS is what makes American would-be talent get wasted....
so the solutions to alternative fuels that a smart kid could have figured out in college, never gets to happen because college educations are blocked in America today.
That is why the government is failing, and the USA is going to crash soon.
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Eastern Loon
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You are a east coast LOON! Having the goverment steal Profits or property to redistribute is cummunist...ALL of your left wing leaders are RICH and they will never lower their lifestyle while they say they are helping you get EVEN with the weathy fatcats(which They are!). Its the same bull for the last 75 years.
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WiseOne
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You are right!
Connecticut boasts being the "most wealthy" state, but the fact is they are averaging in the crooks who have millions of dollars in with the rest of the population.
The fact is that Connecticut is populated with very poor people scratching to barely survive working 3 jobs and barely making it.
It is NOT to say that the government should seize profits or property,
it should LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD so that everyone has a fair equal opportunity to prosper.
A system of, YOU DON'T GET PAID UNLESS YOU WORK FOR IT.
Then these overpaid wealth hording crooked corporations and overpaid professions could not gain the overpayment in the first place so no government would have to seize it anyway.
It is regulation of the medium that governs our society, which is MONEY.
If money was regulated so that individuals only got it if they contribute to society a fair exchange.
None of this making huge money while sitting back doing nothing bull.
Corporations would then have to produce quality products at competitive prices in order to grow into giants.
Then the food we eat would be good quality.
Radio stations would have to have good music veriety, less lie filled ads, and attractive listening or go out of business, unlike corporations now that can never go out of business because they hold the monopoly and the government reimburses their losses.
People would be paid fair wages because in order to produce quality at competitive prices, they would have to keep their workers, and get personnel that know what they are doing instead of get-what-you-pay-for labor that makes them sell bad quality.
It is all a loop that is eroding American society, and unless we get our good old USA we once had back,
USA is turning into a communist state.
Just listen to your radio stations play the same 20 songs over and over everyday, where the only thing that changes is the ads from time to time, and hear the mediocracy of communism ring in USA.
OH YEA, THAT THIRD OR MORE OF YOUR PAYCHECK THAT THE GOVERNMENT TAKES EVERY WEEK,
THEY ARE BEING PAID TO DO A JOB AND PROVIDE US WITH SERVICES THAT MONEY WE ALL CHIPPED IN FOR IN TAXES IS FOR.
THE GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN PAID AND IS OBLIGATED TO PROVIDE US WITH THE PAID SERVICES,
LIKE COLLEGE MONEY AID,
PROTECTING US FROM CRIMINALS AND SUICIDE TERRORISTS WITH MOTOR VEHICLES, ETC.
THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL DIRECTIVE IS TO "ENSURE DOMESTIC TRANQUILITY".
EVERY DAY THEY IGNORE THE CRIME AND ANARCHY ON THE ROADS HERE FROM DOMESTIC TERRORISM GETTING WORSE,
THE GOVERNMENT IS STEALING OUR MONEY BY TAKING OUR TAXES AND NOT DOING THEIR JOB!
EVERY KID THAT IS ELIGIBLE FOR STUDENT AID THE GOVERNMENT WELCHES ON FORKING OVER,
THE GOVERNMENT IS STEALING OUR MONEY BY TAKING OUR TAXES AND NOT DOING THEIR JOB!
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DOH
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"USA is turning into a communist state." if we follow your advice we sure as hell will be a communist state.
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Joe.C
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It's funny to me that when repubs where the majority in office you already have interment domain and other big gov't spending that was just out of control.
But the fact is you CAN NOT justify these ridiculous oil prices including what we pay at the pump.
Yes sometimes the gov't has to intervene to prevent unjust inflation at the pump, but you don't have to worry about that, because these oil companies and do what they want. Why not make it 60 Billion profits this time Exxon Mobile.
And you people that come up with the fu-king rejust for inflation B.S can really take your collage degree and shove it.
There's no way you can compare what people was paying 30 years ago and what we are paying today!
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N56629
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Idiots pay over $5/gal for water. Why do you say gas costs too much? Gas is incredibly cheap. Probably one of the best buys in the world.
You don't need a college degree to understand simple economics. I remember the 2cent stamp. Do you know what that stamp costs today? Do you know what gas would cost if it went up at the same rate as that stamp?
You think Exxon makes too much profit? Buy their stock and make yourself a millionaire.
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Radio stations playing the same 20 songs everyday, only a few choices of fast food as places to eat, only a small handful of corporations that own everything and are in kohoots with the government (which is unconstitutional; gov is supposed to oversee business, not do business with and take bribes like a business partner).
Leningrad!
DOH, what country are you living in?
Everyone can charge whatever they like, O.K., I hope you like living in a tent and hunting for squirrel to eat, if you don't mind not being able to buy gas, afford a rent, afford corporate priced food, and everything else the corporate communism is controling the monopoly on therefore there is no competition to stop them from charging any price they want.
There are people that don't want to live outside of society, therefore are willing to still pay any price, but that doesn't deny they are still being taken advantage of.
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dakota49
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Wise Man, I'm amazed at how little you know about economics, think before you start typing, if we give the government the power to control how much the oil companies can make, it won't be long before they start saying how much each of us can make, is that what you want?
You know there are still a few communist countries around if you think that is such a good idea. Once the government starts saying how much and who can make money, I can asure you it will not be you and me. I did just what someone else recommended and bought some Exxon stock a few years ago and it does pay a good dividend, that is sound advice.
Good Luck
Dakota49
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N56629
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It's amazing how many of the people whining about the price of gas are doing that whining on their cell phones and over their high speed internet connection. Go back to living within your means. Gas was relatively expensive 30 years ago but we didn't have to pay for all those toys.
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It's not saying the government should control prices, it needs to adjust pay scales to match.
Raising prices makes the value of the dollar go down, so therefore paycales have to ba adjusted accordingly.
If prices double and payscales double too, there is no problem. People just decided to make the denomination of the dollar be less.
The economic disaster coming, and yes, I know alot about economics and it is being graphed- the payscales not following the shrinking dollar is what is causing economic colapse to USA.
The equation is a y=-x^2 from the birth of the nation to about the middle of the 1900s, then a new function starts of y= -square root of x.
the dollar is worth 1/2 what it was 10 years ago, but that 50% since 10 years ago is only about 1% of the total depreciation since the 1700s.
The government controls greed and crime from crooked businesses trying to take advantage of the public by overcharging, which they can only do with a monopoly which the gov lets them do, by adjusting minimum wage to keep up with it.
They aren't lately. Just like they aren't doing anything about the carnage epedemic on the roads from terrorism. They aren't using planes but the airport security is feirce. They are using automobiles and trailler trucks on the public highways, which has the least law enforcement.
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dodger
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I hope you aren't saying that people becoming homeless left and right, and not able to afford to drive to work because of gas, getting in life ruining debt and losing their kids and their families being torn apart,
is good economics and what is going on is right and good?
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TexasTodd
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This is a good thread...........
for the OFF TOPIC board.
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HAHAHAHAHA
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"This is a good thread...........
for the OFF TOPIC board."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
This whole forum has become an OFF TOPIC board.
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Hey dodger-Remember Jimmy Carter----
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Joe.C
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"Idiots pay over $5/gal for water. Why do you say gas costs too much? Gas is incredibly cheap. Probably one of the best buys in the world"
What a moronic statement.
Please pay attention this time!
Ok so people pay for $5.00 a gallon for *Milk* or even water. But still, do you see them having to buy water and milk day after day; or even having to shell out over 60 bucks in order to buy 20 gallons??? Of course not.
It's not the prices at the store thats the problem, its the prices of a barrel of oil thats the problem; every thing goes up once oil companies are pushing for higher oil prices and you got people demanding so much gold that it has already doubled in price ($9.50 and ounce I think)and its taking a toll on our dollar!
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daddio
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"you got people demanding so much gold that it has already doubled in price ($9.50 and ounce I think)and its taking a toll on our dollar!"
where are you buying gold for $9.50 an ounce? i definitely want some of that.
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N56629
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"What a moronic statement. "
OK, clown, go into the gas refining business for yourself. How much do you think it costs to bring oil half way around the world, refine and transport it to your local gas station? When I mentioned water we are talking net profit. Why shouldn't oil companies be entitled to make the same profit margins as everyone else?
Your dependence on gas is not my problem, the government's problem or anyone other than your own. If you want to see prices drop then just use less. If you want them to keep rising then drive a gas hog. It's just that simple.
The only think moronic around here are the people that can't figure out that the price of gas is in line with inflation and it isn't going to change.
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Another suicide car bombing terrorist attack occoured in Connecticut today, March 5, at 2AM this morning.
The terrorist suddenly intentionaly swerved onto the wrong side of the solid double lines and flooring it toward oncoming traffic.
The terrorist attacked the United States on a narrow bridge over the Connecticut river so traffic would not be able to get out of their way.
The derranged terrorist that attacked U.S. citizens today was using a dark colored pick-up truck as a missle to attack U.S. citizens in Connecticut today at 2AM.
No government of law enforcement does anything to stop these motor vehicle terrorist attacks.
For some reason the gov WANTS the USA to be destroyed.
Deadly sharp weaponous debris ended up in the road for all citizens to be harmed by as a result of this derranged individual behind the wheel of the dark colored pick-up's psycho and anti-American behavior, completely intentionaly, not by accident, attacking U.S. citizens to deliberately cause them harm----ALLOWED BY THE GOVERNMENT!
There is your so-called great country.
Saying USA is great is saying 9-11 was great, because this morning at 2AM in Connecticut proves what USA is!
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