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2/28/2008
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hey can we atay on the subject of 4 bucks a gallon?
i know it has to do with the economy but come on people!!!
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daddio
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what do you expect from flamers with the IQ of a rock?
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Joe.C
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I hope that people such as Bush and Chenny are happy that there making big buck~!
Just more proof that are country is really going to hell and no one Fu-king cares!
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N56629
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Less than six months ago the pundits were saying that gas was going to hit $5/gallon this winter, so I guess $4 is a bargin.
As a percentage of my income I find that gas is cheaper now than it was 30 years ago.
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Wong is Wrong
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2/28/2008
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You're trying to make a point, all right, and you're almost there. But be honest: you're not a grammarian, are you?
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CheskYourMath
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N56629,
if you are making the same money you were 30 years ago, (adjusted dollars), then you can make that comparison.
If you gradualy moved up the ladder since 30 years ago, of course everything will be a smaller percent of your income now.
The stats are based on a typical wage per gas cost then as compared to a typical same wage for the same job per gas prices now.
Gas is triple what it was 10 years ago per incomes.
Gas is about 5 times higher priced per same income as it was 30 years ago.
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N56629
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2/28/2008
20:43:37
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"Gas is about 5 times higher priced per same income as it was 30 years ago."
Check your own math. That figure is not adjusted for inflation. We are at or below peak. That's why it is not having an adverse effect on the economy.
http://www.randomuseless.info/gasprice/gasprice.png
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=6440
Quit listening to talk radio and TV pundits.
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dakota49
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21:15:50
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I don't understand why everyone wants to blame Bush/Channey in the book Albert gore Jr. wrote he said he wanted to see the cost of gas go to 4-5 dollars a gallon. (Earth in the balance) was the name of the book, when it came out all the communist, excuse me Democrats praised him for saying what they had been thinking all along.People like Hilery Clinton, Bill Clinton,
Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, John Edwards, Harry Reid, and a whole host of others. Why doesn't any one blame Gore? He's the one that started this whole mess in the first place.
Dakota49
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N56629
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Yes, I know, and Gore also invented the internet. Gore wanted to increase the cost of gas by increasing tax on it. Did that happen? Nope. Investors, buyers, sellers, supply, demand, etc. drove the price up. Which one is Gore? Are the Democrats big oil? Are they the big market makers? If they are I want to be one of them.
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CheckYourMath
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2/29/2008
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These figures aren't precise, but to be rough estimate,
In 1998 gas was around $1.10 per gallon in Connecticut.
The typical light industrial worker wage was about $10 per hour in Connecticut.
A 20 oz coffee was $1.00.
An average apartment was $500 per month.
In 2008, gas is $3.30 per gallon in Connecticut (triple that of 1998).
A 20 oz coffee is $2.00.
An average apartment is $1,000 per month.
The typical light industrial worker wage IS STILL about $10 per hour in Connecticut.
Since 1998, payscales have stayed the same,
the price of goods and services has DOUBLED,
Gas prices have TRIPLED,
and fast food prices have QUADRUPLED-
fast food prices have doubled like everything else (except gas), but fast food meals now give you HALF as much food for the double price, making the price quadruple that of 1998 (and the quality of the food has become very inferior to boot!)
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brianj
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2/29/2008
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good point.
so......... i came to the conclusion that were screwed... right?
at this rate. driving a car will become a status symble, like starbucks or a mansion or going to a private school or expensive clothing or jewelry........ well you get the point.
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CYM
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2/29/2008
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Ya, the USA will regress back to horse and buggy!
So much for the flying cars.
The American people have the power to organize, perhaps via the internet, and with the power of the masses can shut them down (government and crooked corporations).
Something like a national tax boycott, where a predetermined date where everyone goes on a 'tax-strike' all at once (which is the only way it will work).
Entire communities can agree to be a part of it, so there will be stores, services, banks, and police that will allow the community to be self-sufficent without the government.
All these communities across the nation can order the scum out of the federal government and replace them with honest elected people that should be in the positions, and re-start the government- with alot of reform to get it back on track.
The leaders of the "take-it-all" corporations would have to work for a fair pay to live, and everyone would be paid fairly that will re-stabalize the economy.
Provocation of other countries would be terminated, and trained citizens will run the key commodities like power plants and, yes, the oil mining and refineries. The petroleum products would be sold at a fair price with a fair profit margin factored in.
The taxation on gasoline would also be fair and calculated as an economic stabalizer, and not a penny more.
Millions of people in the USA! Don't people want their lives back and want things to be fair and right again? Just a little organizing and word of mouth can get it going and we can put the a$$holes ruining our nation of people where they belong, and possibly bring criminal charges against them and make them reimburse all of us out of their own pockets for the wealth the STOLE from us (and are still stealing).
Why would anyone just stand still and let themselves be robbed without even trying to defend themselves?
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2/29/2008
16:29:30
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You people are just out of you minds!!
The fact is, it coast over 60 dollars to fill up your tank. Funny how back in the days (1977) people could still fill up there tanks and not think to much about it.
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daddio
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CYM, you want to put government back in the hands of people instead fo lawyers and corporations?
here is the organization to do just that.
www.goooh.com
happy reading and
pass it on.
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Eric
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2/29/2008
16:52:24
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Supply and Demand. Use less and the price will go down. If I was making a profit on producing/selling/distributing gasoline, I'd keep increasing the price until my total revenue began to decrease (Point of Diminishing Returns). That's what makes our economy run - Supply and Demand. Stop blaming everyone else and take responsibility for your own actions. I'm actually really proud of how Exxon and the like are spending my money. My stock has increase double digit percentages the last two years. More than enough to make up for the increase in gas prices. Based on my limited intellect, I'm guessing we'll hit the Point of Diminishing Returns at about $9.50 a gallon. Time to dust off my motorcycle (that gets 58 miles a gallon). Sweet.
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jdaoust
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We are paying about $5.30 for an imperial gallon in Canada!! ($1.18 per liter)
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N56629
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CheckYourMath, in historical terms ten years is a very short time. Was the price of gas average, below average or above average in 1998? Did you read the link that I gave you?
"For instance, let's look at 1955, a year most of us associate with big cars, big engines, and cheap fuel – automotive glory days, as it were. Gasoline sold for 29 cents per gallon. But one dollar in 1955 was worth more than one dollar today. If we were using today's dollars, gasoline would have cost $1.76 per gallon in 1955.
Gasoline now costs around $3.00, so we are worse off than in 1955, right? No. Because we were poorer in 1955 than we are today, $1.76 then had a bigger impact on the pocketbook (that is, it represented a larger fraction of income) than $1.76 today. If we adjust gasoline prices not only for inflation but also changes in disposable per capita income (defined as income minus taxes), gasoline today would have to cost $5.17 per gallon to have the same impact as 29 cents in 1955.
Let's pick another year we associate with low gasoline prices – 1972, the year before the Arab oil embargo. Gasoline was selling at 36 cents per gallon. Adjusted for inflation, however, the price was actually $1.36 in today's currency. Adjust again for changes in disposable per capita income and the price would have to be $2.66 per gallon to have equivalent impact today.
Were we better off then when we rolled into the filling station in 1972 than we are today? No, because our cars get 60 to 70 percent better mileage today than in 1972 (22.4 miles per gallon versus 13.5 miles per gallon). That more than offsets the 10.5 percent increase in gas prices adjusted for change in inflation and income from then to now."
This is neither the worst of times nor the best of times. We are paying pretty much average prices. Gas here is far cheaper than most of the rest of the world. One of the reasons gas seemed cheaper 30-40 years ago is that we didn't waste money on cell phones, cable tv, fast internet, etc. We simply went thru a period of relatively cheap gas.
In 1971 I paid a bit less than $4000 for a Challenger R/T. What do you think one of them new ones will cost if and when they come out? Personally, I don't think I will be able to afford one. It's hard to swallow paying two times more for a car than I paid for my house.
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dakota49
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The new Dodge Challenger is coming out and its starting at around 34000 bucks if you can find a dealer that will let it go for that price, they are only going to build 6000 for 2008, and you can only get it with the 6.1 hemi eng. I read that most have already been bought.
Dakota49
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UPs90R9QO8&feature=related
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CYM
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To Eric,
One of the theories IS that the fossil fuels are running out, as scientists DID predict would happen right about now, and the government is not only not telling us to prevent a panic, but the corporations are using it as an opportunity to rip people off.
The government should be stepping in with this crookery.
Oil is a need for society to function, just like air traffic controlers.
When air traffic controllers tried to take advantage by crippling the airlines by going on strike, Ronald Regan fired them.
Bush should fire the ceos of the oil corporations and run the supply until they can be replaced.
I wonder why Bush isn't doing that?
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