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RadioMan
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It's just too damn bad the users of this find
Dodge forum web site MUST see the CRAP some 100%
MORONS print.
Why don't you complete butt sniffin morons get a
frecken life!
We REALLY don't care about your comments!
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Dan M
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amen brother radio man!
time for a ddc meet up and beat down?
- Dan M
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TEACHER
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2/20/2008
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I am glad you asked for The REAL truth.
Seems the idiot amsoil flamer has his facts wrong.
Amsoil talks TRUTH! - and Mobil1 Lies!
Re: Amsoil
Taken from the FAQ section of Amsoil's website:
"AMSOIL has publicly stated that its XL motor oils are
Group III based and its other motor oils are
PAO (Group 4 synthetic) based."
Re: Mobil1
Mobil1 on the other hand:
They cheapened their oils by switching all of
their base oils to Group3 crude oil instead of
Group 4 pure synthetic oil.
THE DIFFERENCE IS ... Mobil1 DIDN'T TELL ANYONE
This saved Mobil1 millions of $$$ and the public
has no clue that they are being ripped off.
* Only PAO Group 4 oils are true synthetics.
Mobil does "NOT" offer any true PAO synthetic oil.
Mobil1's only interest is PROFITS and a cheap
price on the Walmart shelfs.
SWITCH TO PAO SYNTHETIC AMSOIL
Amsoil is a Genuine Synthetic PAO Formulated G4 Motor Oil
LOOK HERE:
http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/ot/4751.html
Additional Information about API Certification:
Some Mobil1 oils are NOT API.
API is a minimum gov't rating and they don't care.
Plus some of their oils have too much ZDDP to qualify.
Redline doesn't care either.
None of their oils are API.
They use a lot of ZDDP too.
ZDDP is an antiwear additive in almost every synthetic oil. ZDDP is phosphorus. For products that meet the new ILSAC GF-4 specification the phosphorus levels for the oil must be less than 800 ppm phosphorus. (Many Mobil1 oils are over 1000 ppm and are not API cert.)
The alternative is MOLY (like graphite) used by Royal Purple.
Do not ever use an oil with moly in your daily driver.
Amsoil talks the TRUTH! and MOBIL1 LIES!
"All" Mobil1 oils are now Group III crude oil.
Mobil does "NOT" make a true PAO synthetic anymore.
MOBIL LIES ABOUT THEIR OILS.
On the other hand ...
Amsoil tells the TRUTH - and ALL of their oils are
true synthetic PAO pure synthetic oils (except for their
XL line which they publically acknowledge).
Now tell the flamer to STFU!
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get a life
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2/20/2008
13:31:36
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Shatto your the only one doing the flaming/flooding/spaming around here you douche bag
get a life & a job you obviously have neither
the SCAMSOIL people dont want you to know the TRUTH
all they do is flame everyone and flood with the lies and babble
well we ARE NOT going to take it anymore
& as you all know the TRUTH HURTS!
watch how they will get upset and burry the posts
DODGEDAKOTAS.COM is your #1 Dakota site
MOBIL 1 API certified & Warranty approved!
amsoil is neither!
goes to show just how full of sh1t your local scamsoil spamming idiot is (he also need to learn how to spell)
in our service department you will find Mobil 1
you will NOT however find any amsoil products!
why? quick easy answer
for warranty approval you need to use a API certified oil
while amsoil claims they "meet and exceed" API standards fact is they don't!
if their statement was true then you can bet
your last dollar they would go and get API certified!
Dodge requires use of API certified oil
Heck every car/truck maker i have ever seen requires it
not using what they say to use for motor oil?
then they do not have to and will not honor your warranty
what the hell does everyone think the reason is amsoil couldnt get API certified?
yes to much zinc
and the reason they use so much of it is because its cheap and makes a low grade oil slippery
and they never fixed the issue
because they couldnt
they have to keep the product cheap
do you know how many people get a % of every bottle you buy????
the old saying you get what you pay for comes into play here
you are not getting a quality product
you are just paying a % into multiple people in their pyramid scheme
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(posted by Mel)
Stan said prove him wrong
Well
it was a very easy task here you go!
(all Mobil 1 oils are API approved and meet & exceed warranty standards) Amsoil is NOT !
I wrote exxon mobil
"Are your Mobil 1 extended performance oils API approved? "
reply attached and contact Matt yourself
for further info
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Yes, they all are.
--
Thank you for choosing ExxonMobil products.
If you need further assistance, please contact ExxonMobil at
1-800-ASK-MOBIL
-Matt Jacob
.............................................
ALL our oils (except race series oil)
IS API certified! & warranty Approved!
SCAMSOIL ISN'T
now watch them Lie - watch them cry !
Then they will run and Hide !
http://www.amsoil.com/articlespr/article_xl7500.aspx
Q: AMSOIL will be using a different formula for its XL-7500 Motor Oils. Why did AMSOIL change the formula?
A: Our XL-7500 oils are the oils of choice in the retail oil change market, and primarily because of warranty concerns the customers in this market require API-certified oils. In order to obtain API SL/ILSAC GF-3 certification and still remain cost-competitive with the other oils sold at retail oil change outlets, we had to change to Group III basestocks. To obtain API certification with our top tier basestocks would have priced our Dealers out of the market.
Gee kinda funny when steve put everyone down for using M1 cause in his words "its group 3 not real syn"
but when amsoil is group 3 it somehow becomes "True Syn Oil" LOL
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"Stick with what the manufacturer uses in it. MOBIL 1, period."
top of the line american sports cars
Factory fill with what oil again?
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?s=4be9f2a48ca25c99e87d8935cdc00294&t=1933616
Mobil 1 factory fill in what ???
Mobil 1 factory fill in Corvettes !
"Stick with what the manufacturer uses in it. MOBIL 1, period."
top of the line american sports cars
Factory fill with what oil again?
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1933616
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Mobil 1 Factory Fill for Bentley
"Mobil 1 Selected as Exclusive Factory Fill for Bentley Continental GT Coupe; The World's Leading Synthetic Motor Oil Selected"
http://www.allbusiness.com/manufacturing/transportation-equipment-mfg-automotive/5650091-1.html
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
"Mobil 1 Selected as Factory Fill for Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII"
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2003_August_13/ai_106557779
................................
amsoil Factory fill in
the NADA - made by NOBODY!
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TEACHER
Dodge Dakota
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2/20/2008
14:22:55
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YO FLAMER.
Do you even read the posts?
Or just copy and paste by habit?
READ THIS AND WEEP:
Amsoil talks TRUTH! - and Mobil1 Lies!
Re: Amsoil
Taken from the FAQ section of Amsoil's website:
"AMSOIL has publicly stated that its XL motor oils are
Group III based and its other motor oils are
PAO (Group 4 synthetic) based."
Re: Mobil1
Mobil1 on the other hand:
They cheapened their oils by switching all of
their base oils to Group3 crude oil instead of
Group 4 pure synthetic oil.
THE DIFFERENCE IS ... Mobil1 DIDN'T TELL ANYONE
This saved Mobil1 millions of $$$ and the public
has no clue that they are being ripped off.
* Only PAO Group 4 oils are true synthetics.
Mobil does "NOT" offer any true PAO synthetic oil.
Mobil1's only interest is PROFITS and a cheap
price on the Walmart shelfs.
SWITCH TO PAO SYNTHETIC AMSOIL
Amsoil is a Genuine Synthetic PAO Formulated G4 Motor Oil
LOOK HERE:
http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/ot/4751.html
Additional Information about API Certification:
Some Mobil1 oils are NOT API.
API is a minimum gov't rating and they don't care.
Plus some of their oils have too much ZDDP to qualify.
Redline doesn't care either.
None of their oils are API.
They use a lot of ZDDP too.
ZDDP is an antiwear additive in almost every synthetic oil. ZDDP is phosphorus. For products that meet the new ILSAC GF-4 specification the phosphorus levels for the oil must be less than 800 ppm phosphorus. (Many Mobil1 oils are over 1000 ppm and are not API cert.)
The alternative is MOLY (like graphite) used by Royal Purple.
Do not ever use an oil with moly in your daily driver.
Amsoil talks the TRUTH! and MOBIL1 LIES!
"All" Mobil1 oils are now Group III crude oil.
Mobil does "NOT" make a true PAO synthetic anymore.
MOBIL LIES ABOUT THEIR OILS.
On the other hand ...
Amsoil tells the TRUTH - and ALL of their oils are
true synthetic PAO pure synthetic oils (except for their
XL line which they publically acknowledge).
Now STFU flamer!
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4 The Flamer
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2/20/2008
14:27:10
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----- The TRIPLE PLAY -----
All Together Now ----- 1, 2, 3 .....
-- "API" -- "Factory Fill" - "Amsoil approved by Dodge" --
__________ "API" __________
To directly address the flamers posts, I post the following:
THE TRUTH ABOUT API:
1) "API" is a MINIMUM standard and means nothing. Manufacturers’ warranties are based upon the use of oils meeting specific API Service Classifications, for example, SJ/CF.
2) All vehicle manufacturers in the U.S. have agreed that a warranty "CAN NOT" be denied because a customer was using any particular brand of oil that meets (repeat "meets") specifications, unless an engine failure was directly attributable to the fluid. If it is not a fluid related failure, they can not void the warranty. The law supports this position.
3) "API" is VOLUNTARY and NOT Mandatory. (Mobil1 EP is NOT API. Redline is NOT API. Some Royal Purple is NOT API). API is VOLUNTARY and NOT Mandatory.
IMHO .....
----- IGNORE THE AMSOIL FLAMER.
AMSOIL "meets" AND "EXCEEDS" API specs.
WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED THAN DODGE's APPROVAL?
Amsoil is Approved for Dakotas and other Dodge vehicles:
DODGE DEALERSHIPS NOW CARRY AMSOIL
here is the thread on this forum:
http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/gen/16998.html
WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED THAN DODGE's APPROVAL?
NOTHING!
USE AMSOIL WITH CONFIDENCE!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<
I am not affiliated with Amsoil.
But somebody visited their FAQ page and posted this.
Here is what they found:
Q. Will AMSOIL Motor Oils void the warranty of a new vehicle?
A. Absolutely not! Manufacturers’ warranties are based upon the use of oils meeting specific API Service Classifications, for example, SJ/CF. (AMSOIL lubricants meet the current API Service requirements and, thus, are perfectly suited for use in any new vehicle without affecting the validity of the new vehicle warranty.)
__________ "FACTORY FILL" __________
.... "How and Why is Mobil1 factory fill?"
Factory Fill is a money loosing marketing gimmick.
If the customer sees the Mobil1 logo on the oil fill cap,
they feel compelled to keep using it.
FACTORY FILL IS JUST A MONEY LOSING GIMMICK
SWITCH TO PAO SYNTHETIC AMSOIL
----- Amsoil at your Dodge Service Center -----
Amsoil is a Genuine Synthetic PAO Formulated G4 Motor Oil
Only PAO oils are "true" clean synthetic oils.
Mobil does "NOT" offer any PAO synthetic oils.
WHAT MORE INFORMATION DO YOU NEED????
DODGE DEALERSHIPS NOW CARRY AMSOIL
here is the thread on this forum:
http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/gen/16998.html
AMSOIL IS APPROVED BY DODGE FOR YOUR DAKOTA
USE AMSOIL WITH CONFIDENCE !!!!!!!!!!!!
DODGE DEALERSHIPS DO !!!!!!!!!!!!
__________ AMSOIL __________
The Amsoil guy (Steve the Amsoil site sponsor)
that was a site sponsor here for many years
(from 2002 - 2007) left due to the childish
behavior of a few flamers.
Steve can be found on another Dodge Dakota truck
site that has moderators and does not allow
undue flaming and childish behavior:
http://www.dakota-durango.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=105
DEFEAT THE FLAMERS BY BUYING AMSOIL !!!
DEFEAT THE FLAMERS BY BUYING AMSOIL !!!
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MC
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Wow! Glad to see what's really important in the world! Forget Global Warming...Forget Famine..Forget Universal Health Care...Forget Osama Bin Laden....Forget North Korea's Military Buildup and Nuclear Proliferation....No here's what's important enough to throw down over and call each other out for a fight!!!! AMSOIL or MOBIL 1....Restores my faith in America....
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gen1dak
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2/21/2008
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Lions! Tigers! Bears! Oh MY!
Get the cheapest qualifying motor oil, change it regularly, and you'll get 100,000 miles out of it if it's not wrecked, blown up, or traded first. Fighting over which oil offers a miniscule improvement over the other is like 2 fleas fighting over who owns the dog (yes, from Croc. Dundee, but it makes the point). What do any of you possibly gain from this? That's a rhetorical question, by the way. If you want to be a mouthpiece for an oil company, go get a job in their PR department.
You come out way ahead with an aftermarket high volume oil pump circulating clean, qualifying quality oil at higher volumes, higher pressure than the stock units. No matter how good the oil is, it can't protect uncovered bearings, and no oil lasts forever, unlike this stupid "tastes great, less filling" crap.
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OZ
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2/21/2008
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There is a reason to choose synthetic over conventional oil.
Synthetic Oil is made from "clean" LIQUID NATURAL GAS
conventional or fake synthetic oils are made from dirty hydrocracked crude.
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