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here is the ac pdf literature file
only states that ac oils exceed api certification
not that they are api
http://www.ac-rerefined.com/AC_Passenger_Car_Motor_Oilsb_SM.pdf
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Fleet MGR
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I'm telling you they are API certified! The federal goverment would not use it in their vehicles and equipment if it wasn't. Look at this:
Feel good with America's Choice Premium Automotive Lubricants
formulated with highly re-refined base oil.
Re-refining motor oil reduces the need to tap limited virgin crude resources and allows environmentally conscious motorists the opportunity to "close the loop" by recycling used motor oil and purchase re-refined oil. Safety-Kleen's modern re-refining processes turn used motor oil to a like-new condition by removing dirt and contaminants before blending sophisticated lubricating additives to protect engines. All major car manufacturers have approved the use of American Petroleum Institute (API) certified re-refined oil in their vehicles. America's Choice Motor Oil is certified by API.
ILSAC
APPROVED
API
APPROVED
http://www.ac-rerefined.com/html/properties.html
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teacher
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API is over rated and worthless
API is a minimum rating and voluntary
neither amsoil or redline oils are API
both exceed minimum requirements for api certification
also, Royal Purple racing oils are not api
and the company only states that RP racing
oils exceed api certification
api is a minimum rating for oils interested
only in meeting minimum requirements
amsoil, redline and royal purple racing oils
exceed minimum api cert and don't give a $hit
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U R a moron
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"manufactures found out that API was approving just about any oil they had too"
well gee says alot about scamoil then doesn't it???
cause they never got API approved!
"also, Royal Purple racing oils are not api "
NO SH!T dumb azz!
there is no need for a racing oil to be API certified!
there is no factory warranty on a race engine!
Stan get off the drugs out of the welfare line and get a dam job!
all royal purples oil are API certified (except the race oils which dont have to be)
Amsoil can't get there oils API certified
they had to cook up a whole new oil just to get IT approved!
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Stan
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Royal Purple racing oils are also for daily drivers
just really short oil change intervals
and Cory posted the following info:
All vehicle manufacturers in the U.S. have agreed that a warranty cannot be denied because a customer was using any particular brand of oil that meets specifications, unless an engine failure was directly attributable to the fluid. If it is not a fluid related failure, they cannot void the warranty. The law supports this position.
Plus, the dealer/manufacturer has no way of telling what fluid you are using.
Amsoil meets and exceeds API specs.
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Get a Job
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"the dealer/manufacturer has no way of telling what fluid you are using"
ballz they dont
if they test the oil the high zinc content in amsoil shows up load and clear!
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Mel
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I have sat back pretty much quiet.
Now and then I would help someone when I seen a question I could answer. I never used my name for the most part I used "well".
This time I am posting. Stan you have been nothing but a P.I.T.A. on this site and made some of the dumbest posts I have ever seen. Your last post a top here however takes the prize. I mean you without a doubt are a true Darwin Award winner!
Race Oils should not be used in street engines.
Race oils are non or very low detergent oils.
They have very little to no cleaning properties.
They are made for motors that see high heat-High RPMs and are torn down regular & rebuilt.
This is also a reason they are not API approved
for their lack of cleaning properties.
Which they don't need in a race engine.
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Manny
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12/06/2007
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"Amsoil meets and exceeds API specs."
ow really? so why havent they been able to get API approved???????????
stan your a bull sh!tin liar!
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Stan
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posted earlier:
api is a minimum rating for oils interested
only in meeting minimum requirements
amsoil, redline and royal purple racing oils
exceed minimum api cert and don't give a $hit
Mobil1 EP is not API and is made by Craft Oil.
Not even made by Mobil and not even API.
PROVE ME WRONG!
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U lie again
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12/06/2007
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your full of sh!t
amsoil COULD NOT get their oil API certified!
they had to cook up a whole new oil just to get ONE API certified!
ALL Royal Purple OILS (with exception to the race oils) ARE API CERTIFIED!
Race Oils do not need to be or get API certified.
You want to make a statement, get the facts straight.
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hey
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redline is not api certified.
now comment on that one!
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Manny
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Stan said and i quote him
" Mobil1 EP is not API and is made by Craft Oil.
Not even made by Mobil and not even API.
PROVE ME WRONG! "
Well
it was a very easy task here you go!
(all Mobil 1 oils are API approved and meet & exceed warranty standards)
I wrote exxon mobil
"Are your Mobil 1 extended performance oils API approved? "
reply attached and contact Matt yourself
for further info
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Yes, they all are.
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Thank you for choosing ExxonMobil products.
If you need further assistance, please contact ExxonMobil at
1-800-ASK-MOBIL
-Matt Jacob
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hey dude
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12/06/2007
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"hey wrote: redline is not api certified.
now comment on that one!"
Redline doesn't claim their oils are API,
their labels simply mention 'recommended where
API specs ...... are required'
plus they dont have snakeoil salesmen
trying to tell you otherwise.
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Stan
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so redline says the same thing amsoil does
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
also, that is the same language Mobi1 EP oils use.
All vehicle manufacturers in the U.S. have agreed that a warranty cannot be denied because a customer was using any particular brand of oil that meets specifications, unless an engine failure was directly attributable to the fluid. If it is not a fluid related failure, they cannot void the warranty. The law supports this position. Plus, the dealer/manufacturer has no way of telling what fluid you are using.
Amsoil meets and exceeds API specs.
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LOL
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12/06/2007
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"Amsoil meets and exceeds API specs."
really smart guy?
so tell us then why havent then gone back and had their oil retested?
OWW WAIT!
cause they never addressed the issue!
instead they cooked up a whole new oil
which is group3 base stock (just like mobil 1)
and got that one API certified!
they other still will not pass!!!!!!!!!!
whats the diff between mobil 1 and scamsoil?
the wallet will tell you the differance!
gee not to mention you can find it anyplace
while with scamsoil you need a membership
then you have to order add S&H and wait for the over priced crap to get to your house!
Grow a phucking brain you sh!t head!
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Stan
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Show me Mobil1 EP oils
with the API certification donut.
Can't do it can you?
hahahahahahahaha
While you are at it, show me Redline oils
with the API certification donut.
Can't do it can you?
hahahahahahahaha
API means nothing. It is a MINIMUM rating.
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Fleet MGR
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If America's Choice Re-Refined Oil is API certified, (which it is, look it up on the API website), what does that tell you about API certification?????
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ya that if America's Choice Re-Refined Oil is API certified and amsoil isn't
(and they tried)
what does that say about amsoil ?
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M1 user
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(posted by Mel)
Stan said prove him wrong
Well
it was a very easy task here you go!
(all Mobil 1 oils are API approved and meet & exceed warranty standards) Amsoil is NOT !
I wrote exxon mobil
"Are your Mobil 1 extended performance oils API approved? "
reply attached and contact Matt yourself
for further info
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Yes, they all are.
--
Thank you for choosing ExxonMobil products.
If you need further assistance, please contact ExxonMobil at
1-800-ASK-MOBIL
-Matt Jacob
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GSled
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12/08/2007
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Interesting all and add that in a recent consumer afairs article that tested all oils from cheap dino to $$$ syn.
The result? After a 100k mi on each engine at manufatues recomended change intervil-no mesuralbe wear differance. The only differance they could mesure came in extream cold when M1 0-30 out flowed them all.
So what's the point of all the disscusion on this? RUN WHAT YOU LIKE
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