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dan440
Dodge Dakota
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10/25/2007
01:37:29
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Hey people, My black 2000 r/t is really looking like crap even after I wash it.It has water spots all over, I had this problem a year ago and i spent a whole day hand buffing and polishing and waxing but the water spots were still there that you could see in bright light.
Someone told me I should buy a porter cable random orbit polisher and some good polish and wax and that it will look new again.
I priced these polishers at $135 shipped from ebay, anyone else have experiance with there black paint and a polisher or should i just pay a pro a $150 to do it?
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shadetree
Dodge Dakota
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10/25/2007
07:27:19
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Have you tried mequires clay bar or body scrub? They both work well for that sort of problem. I would not recomend polishing with a power polish unless you are 100% sure you know what you are doing cause if you catch an edge or burn through the pain it will ruin your whole day.
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mccamp
Dodge Dakota
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10/25/2007
10:17:32
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Have you priced having it detailed professionally? sometimes they run really good deals, and you ccan expect a decent result.
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pdiddy
Dodge Dakota
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10/26/2007
06:35:07
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dont use a orbital buffer on black paint!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! unless you want swirl marks from hell. Get some "color back" made by turtle wax, then wax with meguires wax, then polish with meguires polish, color back will strip the old wax and dead paint, the wax will shine, and the polish will remove swirl marks and protect the shine. Its 3 steps and takes awhile, but well worth it. Afterwards, never use the pull in car washes, they strip the wax and the detergent they use is what causes the water marks, along with dish washing detergent. And after each time you wash afterwards, use a chammy to dry the truck, Using a leaf blower works great also.
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Chris
Dodge Dakota
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10/27/2007
06:16:10
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Black is great as long as it is always garaged.
Otherwise. new buyers should conseider another color.
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GB2000
GenIII
10/27/2007
07:00:24
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60 grit sandpaper will make all your troubles go away:)
...but seriously, ask around your area if anyone recommends any detailers. You can prolly get a full detail from somebody who knows somebody for around $100-150 (black is usually more expensive). There are a lot of good car detailers who just do it as a hobby, whereas sometimes detailing businesses don't do so well since their goal is usually to move as many vehicles as possible a day (most detailers are paid per vehicle). Get your truck detailed once a year and it'll look good for quite some time.
Oh...and while it would technically be cheaper to buy the equipment/supplies and do it yourself, just because you got a good buffer/polisher doesn't mean you'll do a good job detailing. It's all about technique...not to mention, if you don't know what your doing, you can easily burn the clearcoat off and go right into the paint. ...and that wouldn't be very pretty. lol
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partsmanager
Dodge Dakota
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10/27/2007
13:46:57
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truthfully we aren't polishing paint we're polishing urethane plastic but that's the end of the lesson. As an owner of an 99RT Black and many Black cars including an 87Grand National with factory Black Lacquer which faded in the moonlight if you didnt polish it. Start with buying Mothers Cleaner paste wax in the Can It even says safe for clear coats which it is and find some ALL-Cotton old shirts that have been washed alot that way its nice and soft new ones scratch until they get used. buy a polish pad if you don't have one or use a small piece of terry cloth towel and keep it wet when using it. your truck should look like a mirror after a couple of times. Do half of he hood and compare both sides you'll see a difference with the Mother's Polish. Make sure you buy the Cleaner wax not the plain polish the cans look the same
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pete
Dodge Dakota
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10/31/2007
09:17:15
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You can use a orbital buffer, BE SURE YOUR TRUCK IS CLEAN !! Before starting using ANY BUFFER and clean bonnet,pad of your choice and do one panel at a time in the shade or garage if you have if you use a variable speed wheel use the slowest speed apply choice of wax haze it up then wipe I would use three step approach first use a good clay bar,then a good cleaner/polish, then a good wax and each application use a new bonnet or pad and a good microfiber cloth and whatever you do don't drop on ground will grab dirt that you won't see until those smiling swirls are staring at you GO SLOW don't be in a hurry. Those water spots might be acid rain or sap if you park by a tree.
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pete
Dodge Dakota
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11/02/2007
10:56:14
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To conclude DIRT is one of the major causes of those swirls when detailing whether it be sap,road tar,oil residue still all needs to be CLEAN THOUGHLY before polishing/waxing is done otherwise BLACK will pull out every imperfection you rub into to it goes the same for all dark colors to. Don't want to be drag on conversation probaly are though sorry.....
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