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Blckdak Gen III
9/30/2001 11:38:22
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Message: Went to change my pads and rotors and Im stumped on how to remove the Caliper from the rotor. I saw 2 Hex head bolts on the back side of the caliper, do these need to be loosened? Any other tips?
Any information much appreciated.
Erin 2000 CC 4x4 Sport Magnaflow Exhaust, Z-Tube, Runnin AMSOIL
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J. C. Brandon Dodge Dakota
9/30/2001 13:53:00
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Message: Those are Torx bolts. Sorry, I don't remember what size. Yes, you remove those - with the correct Torx driver - and you're good to go. Don't try a regular hex driver; that will ruin them.
-J.
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steady GenIII
10/01/2001 14:30:18
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Message: 9mm, I got mine at Graingers.
Y2K QC, 4.7L, 4wd FT, Auto, 3.55, LSD, Sport Plus
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Blckdak Gen III
10/01/2001 14:54:50
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Message: So after removing (or loosening) these Torx bolts, the calipers should come off? Any tips on replacing the rotors to, gonna do those also.
Thank you for the info.
Erin 2000 CC 4x4 Sport Magnaflow Exhaust, Z-Tube, Runnin AMSOIL
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Blckdak Gen III
10/01/2001 14:59:10
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Message: 9mm, I thought Torx are labelled as T-#!
What would be the equivalant?
Thanks
Erin 2000 CC 4x4 Sport Magnaflow Exhaust, Z-Tube, Runnin AMSOIL
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J. c. Brandon Dodge Dakota
10/01/2001 17:38:46
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Message: Buy a set of Torx drivers at Sears (or wherever) and you'll have the right one on hand. They're just a few dollars.
Have a wire coathanger and a wirecutters handy. You'll use the coathanger to hang the caliper from the suspension without stressing the brake hose.
Once you remove the two Torx bolts the caliper just lifts off. Then you just pull the rotor off the wheel studs. The pads are held in with spring retainers that take a bit of gentle prying to remove. Since the new pads will be thicker than the old ones you'll need to (again, gently) push the pistons back into their bores a bit. I used a big c-clamp Visegrips to do that. Just clamp down gently and screw the Visegrips adjuster screw in until the piston gets pushed back a little. If the master cylinder is completely full when you do this it will burp brake fluid so it helps if it isn't quite full.
If you are installing aftermarket rotors they might be directional so make sure you put them on the correct sides.
It's an easy job.
-J.
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Stew Dodge Dakota
10/01/2001 19:10:46
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Message: Mine is a 2000 4x4, and mine needed a 7 mm HEX wrench. Just remove the two bolts and the caliper will pull off. I removed mine the other day to take off my warped rotors.
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J. c. Brandon Dodge Dakota
10/01/2001 22:56:25
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Message: Yow. Looks like I had a massive brainfart. Sorry about that. I just crawled under my truck in the dark and tried fitting a T-45 Torx bit to one of those bolts. Fits just fine. Then I tried fitting a 7mm hex bit. But I couldn't do it - because I don't own a 7mm hex bit. So I looked a *lot* closer and damned if that doesn't look pretty much like a hex.
Coulda sworn it was a Torx. Really. Five demerits to me.
-J.
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Dave Dodge Dakota
10/03/2001 00:14:33
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Message: Dakota rotors are notorious for warping and short life span. Get some aftermarket ones like Powerslots,etc. if you get just plain ole' auto parts store brand, make sure they turn them first, even new rotors can be made sloppy.
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Blckdak Gen III
10/03/2001 11:38:20
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Message: Thanks for all your info, just have to get the right tool now. As far as rotors go, im putting on the Powerslots along with Hawk performance brake pads. Had this stuff for about 3 weeks now and went to do this, took the tires off and found i got stuck at the calipers (no tool). Gonna give it another shot this weekend.
Thanks Again
Erin 2000 CC 4x4 Sport Magnaflow Exhaust, Z-Tube, Runnin AMSOIL
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Rascal Dodge Dakota
10/03/2001 15:52:57
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Message: Erin, haven't put my powerslots or hawk pads on yet, but will next week...what size hex did we ever decide that it was then?
Rascal
98 SLT 5.2
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CW Dodge Dakota
10/03/2001 19:51:04
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Message: 7 mm hex, I garantee it.
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Alan Dodge Dakota
10/03/2001 20:04:03
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Message: I installed my new Powerslots and Hawk pads two weeks ago. Here is what I learned;
You'll need a 7mm hex head wrench to loosen the two hex head bolts that hold the caliper on. I found it easier to remove them completely when it came time to put the caliper with new pads back on over the rotor, otherwise I would nudge them in a bit and then they would prevent me from getting the caliper back in place. It is easy to realign the holes after the caliper is in place.
You'll also need a straight blade screwdriver to apply compression to the caliper spring so that it can be tilted and removed. You do this by putting the screwdriver between the hub of the rotor and the center of the spring and compressing the spring upwards towards the top of the caliper, ( with a wide screwdriver blade you might get away with rotating the blade left/right to get leverage) while slipping an end of the spring out from under the "adapter" (those cast pieces of the caliper that hold the two ends of the springs). Pretty easy if you know the technique. I had to cheat and read the service manual. To re-install you put one end of the spring under the adapter and one of the little hooks in it’s hole. Now pull down the opposite and attempt to put it under it’s adapter while also pushing the center of the spring up (similar to screwdriver technique to remove spring) so that you can get the second little hook into it’s hole. Sound like a pain? It is.
You will probably really need to compress the heck out of the caliper to allow enough clearance for the rotor after you install your new pads. I used a small piece of wood and one of those clamps that has a squeeze grip to compress mine, not great but it did the job.
Though the book does not mention it, I applied some hi temp grease to the wear areas between the caliper and the backside of the pads. You’ll see the wear marks. Don’t over due it! Needless to say grease and your brake pads don’t go together.
Hope this helps. Sorry I don’t have and diagrams.
Good luck
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Rascal Dodge Dakota
10/03/2001 23:26:57
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Message: That is good advice. I might add one small difference.
I NEVER compress the caliper piston back into the caliper so that the piston fluid is forced back into the master cylinder...
I open the bleeder valve slightly, then as I compress the piston, I open it wider, (with a piece of clear tubing on it emptying it into a jar or pan), and the piston goes in MUCH easier, AND it does not force old fluid back into the caliper. I take this opportunity to siphon the master of most of its fluid and put in new fluid and let it run through until its clear. Ideally, do the farthest wheel first from the master and you have also bled your brake system...fluid is cheap but important.
Just installed a Black Magic fan on my 5.2 tonight. I tried others before but this one is superior by far. Even if the Black Magic fan cannot handle the hot Atlanta summers, I will simply put the clutch fan back on. I plan to add two smaller fans to the Black Magic. One between the condenser and the radiator, and one on front of the condenser. That should keep the old clutch fan from coming back.
Good luck,
Rascal
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steady GenIII
10/04/2001 09:47:47
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Message: Where can I get some information about the Hawk pads? I have the Raybestos and I hate them, they squeak all the time and I have to wash the front wheels every two days due to the tremendous amount of black dust.
Y2K QC, 4.7L, 4wd FT, Auto, 3.55, LSD, Sport Plus
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Blckdak Gen III
10/04/2001 12:55:50
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Message: Go To Hawkperformance.com, that is thier Website.
You can order them from Jegs.com.
Erin 2000 CC 4x4 Sport Magnaflow Exhaust, Z-Tube, Runnin AMSOIL
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Alan Dodge Dakota
10/04/2001 18:51:27
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Message: I agree with Rascal that this is a good time to flush your brake fluid as well. I just do it as a seperate function. First brakes, then fluid. Makes it easier for me to narrow down what ever I may have screwed up...pads not right, caliper loose, air in lines etc...
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andrew Dodge Dakota
10/04/2001 21:00:27
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Message: Can these procedures for brake work go for a 93 Dakota?
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andrew Dodge Dakota
10/05/2001 11:13:25
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Message: Anyone know?
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Rascal Dodge Dakota
10/05/2001 11:19:55
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Message: There may be some differences like the 7mm hex bolt, but generally yes, they are the same.
Rascal
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Rascal Dodge Dakota
10/08/2001 09:09:24
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Message: Installed my Powerslots and Hawk pads last night. Yep, 7mm is the hex size and yep a BIG difference. Brakes on these trucks are a snap.
Let me know how you like yours Erin.
Good luck,
Rascal
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Blckdak Gen III
10/08/2001 11:52:06
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Message: Installed mine on Saturday. I can actually go down a hill and brake without my truck bouncing all over the place, at times you could see the front end bounce up and down. I haven't done any major stopping yet, letting them wear in first. So far so good, am pleased with the performance so far.
Erin 2000 CC 4x4 Sport Magnaflow Exhaust, Z-Tube, Runnin AMSOIL
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Dolfun Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
12/03/2002 18:07:25
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Message: where can i get replacement 7mm hex bolts? I just bought a used 2000 dakota sport and when i looked at the left front brake caliper to see what was making the clunk sound I found that there were no caliper bolts! Help.
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UK-DSMer Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
2/26/2003 18:52:09
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Message: Sorry to drag up this old thread guys but I would like to know a good place to obtain the powerslot rotors for the 2000 Dakota.
I'm not new to rebuildings cars but am VERY new to American trucks! Need some websites to go look at! :)
Cheers Lads
Mark.
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BillPa Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
2/26/2003 19:39:06
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Message: and.....Clean the new rotor surfaces with brake cleaner to remove any oil or grease thet may have found its way there and ...... torque the lug nuts when you re-mount the wheels!
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