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Jol
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10/02/2006
02:46:20
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Can anyone tell me why Chrysler decided to make steel lug nuts with a outter chrome shell?????
Every time I have to remove a tire I find that a cap disappears somewhere. I'm sick of replacing them one at a time from the dealer for 5 bucks a pop (must be where dodge makes its money). Anybody got any recommendations on new lug nuts, that utilize the same size lug wrench?
'01, 4x4, Ext Cab, 4.7, alloy wheels
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Jeff
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10/02/2006
02:58:09
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i got mine all replaced at one time when i was at the America's Tire shop getting a rotation/balancing. i think it cost me $20 for all four wheels, all nice new 1-piece nuts.
Jeff
'99 3.9 clubcab
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Kowalski
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10/02/2006
09:31:14
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It is done for appearance and economy; and not limited to Chrysler by any means. You should be happier with a solid lugnut, but I can't help wondering how you are treating the stock ones ? I rotate tires twice a year, and my '00 stock nuts are all still intact.
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Izzy
Dodge Dakota
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10/02/2006
09:37:26
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And to think for several years I was accusing the tire guys of losing my chrome lugnuts and sticking plain old steel ones on in place of them. Finally 1 tech showed me the chrome cap that had just popped off the steel lug as he was putting them on with me standing right there with him.
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.boB
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10/02/2006
10:09:53
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Yes, that's been a common practice for many years. But, I'm with Kawalski. I rotate tires every 5K for the last 80K miles. Although the impact wrench has dented them up a tad over the years, the covers are still intact.
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Jol
Dodge Dakota
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10/02/2006
11:04:05
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I really dont do anything out of the ordinary... The only thing that I can think of is that the salt got in there (I live in Buffalo NY) and helped to break the bond between the two over the years...
I used to work at a wholesale club putting on tires. The caps used to pop off all the time, the worst is when moisture would get in there and they would corrode and swell. Early dodge caravans (we called them dump wagons) were notorious for taking several hours to change 4 tires.
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71firebird
Dodge Dakota
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10/02/2006
12:43:49
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Talk about crazy ideas,my wife's Pontiac Grand Prix has plastic caps that thread onto the top of the lugnut.
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fotodak
Dodge Dakota
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10/02/2006
13:57:20
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Had those dang things on my 77 Mustang Cobra...and that was probably the best thing about that POS....
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Kowalski
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10/02/2006
15:14:31
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Jol - I don't think its the salt; lots of salt on the roads by me too.
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71firebrid
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10/02/2006
15:52:33
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Ha! the 77 Mustang Cobra? or as I call it "Pinto II" LOL
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little jer
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10/02/2006
18:58:04
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With that plow kowalski, I doubt you ever get any salt on your wheels. I'd sure hate to parallel park with that thing on. lol
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Kowalski
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10/03/2006
16:19:16
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Those of us with plows generally are plowing driveways and parking lots - not roads. I go through more salt than most, having to be out during storms; and imagine you're j/k too. Parallel parking isn't really all that bad either though - you need a bit more room, but learn to angle the plow to get into the space - and once your in, if the car in front moves, most don't want to park too close to a plow !
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OBIO3
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10/03/2006
21:04:42
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Myself, I was preparing to wash my truck and noticed there was 3 missing crome lug nut caps on the right rear wheel. Walking around the truck, there was a total of 6 missing. Up to this point, I was unaware my lug nuts had these caps. To my surprise. these caps were $4.95 each at dealer. No way. I just went to Lisac's Tire store and got 24 solid crome lug nuts (INSTALLED) for less then $20.00 bucks.
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N56629
Dodge Dakota
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10/03/2006
21:40:43
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I've had a number of different dodges with these crappy nuts. Some of the nuts last forever and others just fall off even though they look like new.
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GraphiteDak
GenIII
10/04/2006
00:19:15
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LOL! How did CHRYSER/DODGE get blames for that one???
Those plated lug nuts have been around for years.
I think finding a socket that fits nicely is the key. In fact. I have a 2003 Dakota and a 2004 Grand Caravan. Both with chrome wheels and the exposed lugs.
Maybe the reason mine are ok still is because the POS tire iron/lug wrench has NEVER found it's way on our wheels (no flats away from home) I've ALWAYS used the impact and socket on them. Impact to get snug, torque wrench to torque to specs.
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fotodak
Dodge Dakota
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10/04/2006
16:02:38
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Ha! the 77 Mustang Cobra? or as I call it "Pinto II" LOL
yep, but mine had the 302 4spd...did fantastic burnouts with traction bars.
Come to think of it, my 73 Charger had those dang capped lug nuts, too.
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choochoo
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10/04/2006
18:15:50
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I agree with Jol. Had a 94 Caravan with those awful stinkers. I ended up having to chisel the nuts off to get the wheels off. Needless to say I bought solid nuts for it.
There is absolutely no reason for those cheapies to be made. They should be banned. Imagine a senior citizen or my wife stuck somewhere with that problem! In fact I imagined myself stuck with that Caravan if it had a flat on a trip. Just think of sitting on the shoulder of the hiway at midnight in the rain trying to chisel the nuts off! Wow!
The price of vehicles these days, a person should expect better quality - from all makes.
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little jer
Dodge Dakota
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10/05/2006
01:32:31
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never had a vehicle that had these type of nuts on it. all have been solid lug nuts and have never seen what you are talking about. Does that mean my %.9 really has some shell on it and I really have a 3.9 motor? No wonder it's been howling-the dog!
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Kowalski
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10/05/2006
18:00:03
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Many mistakenly belive they are solid, until they start comming apart. These are very common on most makes, and have been for quite some time. When you see one come apart, you'll understand.
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calikota
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10/06/2006
12:05:25
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Thanks for the post I was just about to bitch out my local shop for lossing one of my lug nuts and replacing it with some POS.
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N56629
Dodge Dakota
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10/06/2006
15:49:31
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choochoo makes a good point. If you are on the road and one the caps has previously fallen off you are not going to get the lugnut off with the wrench supplied. They should provide both sizes.
However, there should never be a need to "chisel" them off. Without the caps a standard socket will fit the remaining part.
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