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Shatto
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7/13/2006
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What percent of the oil used in the world is used by automobiles?
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Shatto
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7/13/2006
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In otherwords, the percent of a barrel of oil used for automotive products determines how important it is that you dump your gas guzzling Dodge and buy a Hybrid.
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Chris G.
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7/13/2006
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I would never drive a HYBRID. It cramps my style. I can afford my gas just fine so im good. Thanks for trying to help me though Shatto. You are so kind. *lol*
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Shatto
Dodge Dakota
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7/13/2006
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Shut the f*ck up Chris. I'm only here to sell Amsoil. Dodge sucks. I'm here to make money, not to make friends. Me and AmsoilSponsor are going to be able to quit work and sit at home all day on our computers and make more than any of you spamming and selling Amsoil products.
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Chris G.
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7/13/2006
13:40:32
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HAHA....you are such a dumba$$. Shatto, I always knew how you are. You may fool others, but you never fooled me.
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modain
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7/13/2006
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I'm not sure this is the real Shatto doing the posting here. It looks like you've been fooled.
What's your left foot doing?
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Dude1
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7/13/2006
17:28:24
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Question on those Hybrids...where in the world will we put all those old batteries once they die and are no longer worth a crap? Also, when those batteries die, are you willing to fork out $3k to replace them? Give me dead dinosaurs anyday!!!
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Dan M
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7/13/2006
20:43:26
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One of my co-workers is looking at trading in his toyota suv in for a hybrid. He doesn't need an suv was was thinking it would save on fuel costs (he drives +/- 35 miles each way to work. He was looking at the hybrid accord and hybrid civic. The total cost of ownership on the hybrid accord was much worse than his current cost of ownership in the toyota suv. He would have 1) monthy bank note, 2)higher insurance costs (newer vehicle vs sevaral year old vehicle). He figured it would take 8 years of ownership of the accord before he broke even in total cost of ownership.
Now the civic was a little differnet story. I think it would take 4 or 5 year (can't remember exact number) to break even.
So the big question is .. is it really saving you money on the total cost of ownership for a hybrid?
There are a few unseen factors here that I've not mentioned so your total cost of ownership may vary. Such factors include but are not limited to miles driven a week, cost of fuel per gallon, insurance, and willingness to make payments (interest rate/credit score).. ie lower payment over 5 years paying more in total interest than higher payment over 4 years paying less total interest. Let's face it, we all have a budget and can't/don't want a monthly payment higher than x amount.
- Dan M
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Shatto
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7/15/2006
19:22:31
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We are told incessantly how horrid we are to use up all the world oil supply, that we are running out of oil, that our SUV's are destroying the environment, that America is to blame, Algore is right, we are killing the "fragile" planet, we deserve to pay more like the Europeans, high gas prices are high because of the Bush-Haliburton-OPEC-oil executive-oil company-Saudi, collusion, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah,blah. Blah, blah.
Everything I just said is demonstrably untrue.
My cute quiz was to illustrate how all of us have been duped, by the information sources we use.
Seven percent (yup, 7%) of a barrel of oil goes to vehicle fuel.
Would have been a fun to continue this conversation except there are people here who think their written vomit constitutes intellect.
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cuzindoug
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7/15/2006
20:56:45
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Dan M, someone did a study a month back about the differences between the Honda and Toyota hybrid. Honda uses their electric motor for supplimenting power and Toyota uses theirs for better fuel economy. In short, A Honda hybrid gets worse MPG than the comparable Toyota hybrid. I thought that was interesting.
If it doesn't fit, force it. If it breaks...well...it needed to be replaced anyway.
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V8MANual
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7/15/2006
22:33:26
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Shatto, I don't know where you got your 7% figure, but according to the American Petroleum Institute, 46% of each barrel is used for gasoline.
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Forseti
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7/16/2006
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According to the Energy Information Administration each 55 gallon of crude oil produces 19.6Gal of Gasoline, 10Gal Diesel fuel/heating oil, 4Gal Jet Fuel, 1.7Gal Heavy Fuel Oil, 1.7Gal LPG, and 7.6Gal of "other" products
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Shatto
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7/16/2006
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Brian Sussman Show. KSFO-560. Friday.7-14-06.
Lets check.
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V8MANual
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7/16/2006
06:59:13
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The 19.6 gallon figure is correct, but a barrel of oil is only 42 gallons, not 55.
The stock market is the only thing driving up oil costs, now. Production hasn't changed in the Middle East, but traders are buying up futures on the gamble that the price will rise. When there are more buyers than sellers, the price goes up.
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shatto
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7/16/2006
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AND,
When the President of Iran gets in the news, the price goes up, so he makes more money selling oil.
forseti,
Where do things like asphalt and plastics, etc. fit in?
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JR
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7/16/2006
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V8 MANual is right
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Dan M
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7/17/2006
04:26:35
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here is some stats based on 2004 figures.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/infosheets/crudeproduction.htm
Crude oil is measured in barrels. A barrel of 42-U.S. gallons of crude oil yields slightly more than 44 gallons of petroleum products. This "process gain" of volume is due to a reduction in the density during the refining process. In 2004, one barrel of crude oil, when refined, yielded 19.7 gallons of finished motor gasoline, as well as smaller quantities of many other petroleum products.
Total 44.77
- Dan M
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7/17/2006
05:58:21
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Yup, somebody hijacked "Shatto" earlier.
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HYBRID vs. ______
The benefits "personally" of driving a hybrid is more evident if the owner drives mainly city "type" miles where the electic motor is doing more of the work ... translating into higher MPG. I know people getting 50+/- MPG on both coasts (NYC and LA).
The benefits "globally" are that hybrids consume less fossil fuel and emit less hydrocarbons into the atmosphere. One should not think about "break even analysis". Imagine the long term benefits if everyone drove a hybrid (or alternative fuel vehicle) of some sort, and kept the vehicles 10 years or more.
On a related topic -- McMansions and Long Commutes
Perhaps one day Americans will realize that it is not wise to live 100 miles from work just so they can afford a McMansion. McMansions ??? I mean ... common ... how many sq. ft. of living space does each individual need?
I know people that have over 2000 sq. ft. per person. You can only imagine the amount of energy (natural gas, etc.) they waste cooling and heating that monster! And then ... they drive 200 miles a day just commuting burning 10 gallons of gas per day. YUP ... some of the guys at my office do just that (some in HUMMERS burning 20+ gallons of gas per day)
HELLO ????? Is anybody listening?
ALSO --- Imagine the long term "positive" environmental effects if more people lived in the cities and took mass transit.
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Billy Bob
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7/17/2006
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yeah, lets regulate how much energy each person on earth is allowed to use!!!
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Shatto
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7/19/2006
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If we are running out of oil, how come there is more than before?
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mccamp
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7/19/2006
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While most of the previous statements have some merit, there is a huge outside force that is driving the market and is behind a large part of the speculations and futures market increase which is killing our gas prices. That is China. China has boomed in the passed 15 years, mainly through production and manufacturing (which uses huge quantities of oil). They are also developing a much larger population base that is making money than in years past. These people are now able to afford one or two cars, where as 15 years ago many were living a very rural/non mechanical existence. China is the wildcard. If they continue to grow as they currently are, and there is no current reason why they will not, they will quickly surpass our oil needs in the next 15 years based soley on the size of their workforce and car ownership. Just Ask GM about China, their Chinese division is actually turning major profits their with record sales revenue while loosing their ass here.
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