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Chris G.
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5/20/2006
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That 500k mile thing is getting a little out of hand. I have NEVER seen a v6 with 500k miles on it EXCEPT a DIESEL!!. A TRUCK motor is not going to last 500k miles if you are using it as a truck. If you use it as a grandma footed driver, then yes, it may last 300k, but DEFINATELY not 500k. You are feeding this forum a line of BS. As for your smartass comment Jeff...the reason I will not join this forum JUST YET is that every idea I throw out there or every suggestion I make get's bashed or unnoticed. Maybe if people like you would stop posting smartass comments, people may actually WANT to join. You are a serious dose of ANTI-MOTIVATION.
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Chris G.
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5/20/2006
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I expect this to get bashed also. I am a very level headed guy and I truly DO want to belong to a Dodge Dakota website, and YES, I do think this website has much more potential than it is using. This is a great website!, but it shouldnt be about everyone just joining, it should be about helping people. I'd rather lend out a helping hand to someone in need then to line my pockets full of money and feel like a jerk. The owner of this website has demonstrated just that in most respects. I really apprecaite this. I do however understand server costs and maintenance. That is where the existing members come in. The people in this forum...GraphiteDak, you are one of the few that are not BIASED or seem to be a jerk. Also, people should not come into this website with profit motive on their hands. Guy's like Steve Roark come in DodgeDakotas.com and try to sell us things some of us have never even heard of. I would just like to come to this site without seeing AMSOIL all over. Steve, no disrespect, but if you and Shatto are true Amsoil believers, maybe you need to do what the owner of this site has done. He made a site on Dakotas, maybe you need to make a site on Amsoil. If you have used Amsoil and it does fine, then please by all respects keep using it if it works for you. For the others, let us work at our own pace and see for ourselves what works best for us. This website is not an Amsoil advertisement, it's a place where fellow Dak members can get together to talk and converse. If this would happen, I certainly would be a member and i'm sure a LOT of other's would too. Thanks all and please in all reguards try to understand where i'm coming from. Thanks.
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Shatto
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5/20/2006
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Chris G,
In two posts you just said;
1. If you don't know about it and you don't believe it, it is not true.
2. A legitimate businessman with products that you, as well as others can benefit from, should not be allowed to offer it.
3. Someone, telling about how a product helped the performance of his truck should not be allowed to do so, because, in your opinion, that constitutes advertising.
4. Someone, telling about his experience is a liar if you don't believe it.
Are you sure that is the message you want to convey?
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Chris G.
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5/20/2006
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"If you have used Amsoil and it does fine, then please by all respects keep using it if it works for you. For the others, let us work at our own pace and see for ourselves what works best for us". How is this anti-anything? please ellaborate Shatto? You make yourself look like a jerk more and more everyday". No, i'm not conveying any of that. I am saying that someone should be able to come here without being spammed with Amsoil advertisements EVERYWHERE!. Literally, this site looks like $hit hit the fan and Amsoil ads shot everywhere!. You guys start threads about Amsoil constantly, and after awhile, it becomes a problem and makes people very annoyed. I understand if someone actually ASKS which is the best lubricant, then yes, tell them you think they should pick Amsoil. Other than that, just drop Amsoil talk just like everyone else.
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Chris G.
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5/20/2006
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ALSO, referring to 2 Shatto, I never said you should not be able to, but just not all in once place. This forum is about Dodge Dakotas, not Amsoil. If people wanted to know about Amsoil, they need to go to www.amsoil.com and help themselves. There is no way i'd trust some random internet person with my money and hope they shipped me some motor oil. 99.99999% of people would rather go to the store and buy a good motor oil like Mobil 1 Synthetic with a good filter and spend less than commerce across the internet, spend $10 more, and have to wait on their oil to arrive....and if you wanted to return it for any reason, you'd have to pay shipping, which would even farther throw any cry of benefit out the drain. You claim that Amsoil does soo well, but I have saw engines (90's-2000's) that had over 300k miles on them and the owners used non-synthetic oils with severe driving habits and did not change every 3k miles. Most people won't keep their car 300k miles, so why worry? I will probably have 2 cars by the time I could run one 300k miles. Yes, I do realize the benefit of Synthetic, that's why I use it. Also, I just came from the hospital from seeing my grandmother, maybe you think she can benefit from some Amsoil too? Maybe a teaspoon will make all her problems go away? hmm.....this thread really humors me.
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Chris G.
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5/20/2006
11:53:14
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BTW, yes this is my 3rd post, but I am just going to point out that I realize that I made a grammar mistake. I meant that you spend $10 more with Amsoil.
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Jeff
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5/20/2006
12:43:05
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Chris -
calling me a smartass isn't very nice. i don't enjoy personal attacks or namecalling. thats not why i'm here.
you continue to write posts telling everyone else who should and should not be allowed to post here, and about what. that doesn't put you in a good light.
apparantly you can bash other people (like those who claim 500k mi) but we should expect to be whined at if anyone says anything to you.
telling us that there are only a few people on here that are not biased or jerks doesn't put you in a good light.
if you don't like advertisers, sponsors, product reccommendations, endorsements, etc, then maybe this website isn't exactly what you're looking for. however, many many people that don't like all that can and do peacefully coexist here just fine, and make great contributions to the site.
personally i'd like this site to continue to be a site where anyone can come read and post about practically anything related to our trucks and even dodge vehicles in general, just as it has been for years. I enjoy hearing from different sources of information, from personal experiences to product information. We have salesmen, dealership employees, professional mechanics, home mechanics, DIY'ers, newbs, everyone, all coming here to talk and read about our trucks, truck maintenance, personal stories, professional stories, all kinds of advice, product info and reviews, etc.
Jeff
'99 3.9 clubcab
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franksmith
Dodge Dakota
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5/20/2006
12:50:22
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if there was a vendor forum on this site maybe steven would post less in the general forums much like he does here
http://www.dakota-durango.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=105
steven is a great guy and has been very helpful to me. he is also a site sponsor and his advertising means that i can post for free without becoming a member.
thank you steven and all site sponsors and advertisers. if we don't like their posts we don't have to read them.
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Chris G.
Dodge Dakota
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5/20/2006
15:13:20
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Ok, I admit my words were a little harsh. I do have some valid points though.
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5/21/2006
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Thanks again Shatto for mentioning the following.
******* AMSOIL Ea Air Induction Filters *******
Featuring Nanofiber Technology --- for Maximum Engine Performance
YES ... AMSOIL unveiled its new line of universal air induction filters, designed to replace stock oil wetted gauze or foam conical filters typically supplied by K&N, Injen, Green, AIRAID, AFE, TrueFlow and more. AMSOIL Ea Air Induction Filters offer superior efficiency, excellent airflow and are cleanable.
Like other filter products in the AMSOIL Ea line, the new filters utilize nanofiber technology and were developed through partnerships with global filtration leaders. The collaborative effort has been orchestrated by AMSOIL with the aim of producing a filter unsurpassed in efficiency and service life. Key benefits of the Ea Air Induction Filters include:
• Excellent airflow without compromising filtering efficiency
• Superior construction and cleanable design for longer service life
• Unique design to increase surface area and air flow volume
AMSOIL Ea Air Induction Filters are available in nine styles with varying lengths and widths with flange IDs of 3”, 3.5”, 4” and 4.5” for universal fit. Whereas intake kits were once sold only for performance applications, in recent years they have been marketed and used as a way to boost fuel economy in trucks, SUVs, minivans, etc.
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More Cold Air = More Horsepower
- The basic purpose of the air intake system is to bring cool air from outside the engine compartment into the engine. The cooler air is denser than the air found within the hot engine compartment. The denser charge contains more oxygen than warmer air, providing better combustion through a more effective air/fuel mixture.
Another advantage of most specialty-equipment cold air intakes is their consistent diameters and the absence of sharp bends, both of which help to eliminate turbulence in the air stream.
Large and Growing Market
- According to research done by the Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA), a new air intake system is among the first modifications a consumer makes to his or her vehicle. Since changing the air filter alone cannot eliminate air restriction built into the vehicle at the factory, replacing the factory air flow assembly includes replacing the filter, air box and air path. SEMA reports sales of air intakes are over 300,000 every year.
While intake kits were initially sold only for performance-type applications, they are now also being marketed and used as a way to boost fuel economy in SUVs, minivans, trucks and more.
AMSOIL EaAU
- AMSOIL Ea Air Induction Filters fit most of the popular intake systems available. They provide improved cold air intake and a level of engine protection only an Ea Filter can provide. AMSOIL is currently offering nine Ea Air Induction Filters with varying lengths and widths. These filters have flange IDs of 3", 3.5", 4" and 4.5". Since these filters offer a universal fit, AMSOIL provides the dimension sheet below that customers can use to determine the proper filter for their applications.
Cleanable
- AMSOIL Ea Air Induction Filters are cleanable and long lasting. AMSOIL recommends cleaning the Ea Air Induction Filter when designated by the restriction gauge if the vehicle is so equipped, or according to operating conditions. If it is used in extremely dusty environments or in a performance vehicle, more frequent cleanings may be required.
Unique Design
- To increase filter surface area and the volume of air entering the engine, the top of the Ea Air Induction Filter is cut away. The media is inserted in a conical form pointing toward the direction of airflow.
Quality Construction
- AMSOIL Ea Air Induction Filters are made from the same high-quality nanofiber media found in other AMSOIL Ea Air Filters. The nanofiber media is pleated with epoxy-coated wire on the face and back of the media for additional strength and stiffness. High quality, pliable urethane connectors with plastisol potting complete the product. Each Ea Air Induction Filter comes with a clamp for convenient installation.
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You can click below and - Request a FREE AMSOIL CATALOG.
Thank You,
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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franksmith
Dodge Dakota
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5/22/2006
05:46:36
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www.dakota-durango.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=105
steven's amsoil & dakota forum without all the flaming.
pictures and fyi and diy information. really helpful.
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Dan M
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5/22/2006
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Steve- Where on the amsoil website can i find comparison data showing the new filters are better at flow and filtering than those listed in the press release? "K&N, Injen, Green, AIRAID, AFE, TrueFlow".
My local advance has a K&N display set up with a fan and a slot for the filter and a ping pong ball in a tube. As the filter sucks in air, it blows the ping pong ball up into the tube. The K&N blows the ping pong ball up farther than other "stock" paper filters.
I just put in a new pureone air filter on saturday. I've noticed improvements already - a smoother lower idle. I used the PA model in my stock air box.
- Dan M
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5/22/2006
10:54:03
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Dan,
To begin with, Copy and Paste the following:
*** AMSOIL Ea Filter Brochure ***
https://www.amsoil.com/lit/g2202.pdf
... and I'll see what else I can find.
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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AmsoilSponsor
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5/22/2006
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Dan,
The above "pdf brochure" ( repeated here: https://www.amsoil.com/lit/g2202.pdf )
link gives you general information on "nanofiber" technology as it is used in our AMSOIL Ea Air Filters and our AMSOIL Ea Oil Filters. I am trying to locate information regarding our AMSOIL Ea Air Induction Filters.
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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Dan M
Dodge Dakota
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5/22/2006
11:22:20
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Steve - that's still generic information. The Pureone I installed uses "Micronic filtration" -whatever that means. It's not a wet gauze type and not cellulose. Pure One claims it traps 70% more than "stock" filters.
- Dan M
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5/23/2006
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Dan M,
It's not so generic. You can read the information and understand the significance of "nanofiber" technology, but I'm not certain we all know what PureOne's "micronic filtration" means.
Does PureOne think we are stupid? EVERY filter is measured by the size of particles it filters during one pass through the filter -- and "Micron" is the measuring unit - a unit of length equal to one millionth of a meter, and is the term to discuss a filters filtering capabilities.
Question: You don't want to respect our (Amsoil's) marketing materials (the language), but you accept the PureOne marketing comment of "Pure One claims it traps 70% more than "stock" filters" --- as gospel. Why and so what? What is "70% more than stock filters"? Is that a true statement? Is that a significant statement? What about FLOW? A piece of metal would trap 100% more, but what air flow would you get through a sheet of metal? None. Metal has GREAT Filtration and ZERO air flow.
FLOW and FILTRATION
I've got issues with "restricted flow" in the PureOne because of the densely packed media. Just read the flow information for the PureOne. A filter should offer optimum flow and filtration.
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MICRON PERFORMANCE
Most filters sold out there advertise on micron "performance" (how well and how small the particles the filter can filter in one pass). HOWEVER, there is another (as important) aspect besides how well a filter can filter, THE FLOW-RATE.
Proper oil Filter for Synthetic Oil
FLOW and FILTRATION (and unfortunately PureOne does not have good flow)
When considering an oil filter for vehicles using synthetic oils, you should use a Synthetic Engine Oil Filter that is specifically designed for the advanced filtration needs of Synthetic Motor Oils. As a vehicle owner you should look for a synthetic oil filter that provides the best possible balance of efficiency, long service life, capacity, and high flow capabilities.
- efficiency is a filter's ability to trap contaminants
- Service life is the period a filter allows proper oil flow
while trapping and holding contaminants
- capacity is the amount of contaminants a filter
can hold without loss of oil flow and filtration
Oil filters need good efficiency and good capacity to protect engines.
Those with poor efficiency fail to trap a significant portion
of particles large enough to damage the engine.
Those with poor capacity fill quickly, and once filled, allow dirty oil
to bypass the filtration media, circulate unfiltered, and damage the engine.
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I will never be able to produce a document that determines "for a fact" which filters are absolutely the best. You have to understand the terminology and make your own decision based upon the information provided.
Just remember two simple things ... FLOW AND FILTRATION.
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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Dan M
Dodge Dakota
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5/23/2006
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You are right, it's all the same among companies.
a few key differences though from my viewpoint.
1) I can pick up pureone at my local auto parts store.
2) it's cheaper
3) I will not be getting a K&N type washable filter for my truck again. I do more offroading in this truck in areas with alot of dust, I need more filter than flow.
4) i know pureone makes great filters - years of use of their products in home.
It's the same with the oil. The m1 i use works great. It added 1mpg to my old dakota. I've only ran m1 in the new dakota so i have nothing to compare. i'm happy with the products I use and have no motivation to change especially when the product is more expensive and not locally available.
I'm sure the amsoil product is at least comparible to the pureone/mobile 1 that I use. Is it better? I have no idea.
- Dan M
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franksmith
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5/26/2006
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steve
why don't u tell them about your amsoil forum
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