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Shatto
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4/07/2006
11:54:53
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Steve Roark, the AMSOIL dealer you've seen around this site has had complaints about 'pushing his business' and trying to 'ram it down our throat' among other negative comments.
Please, think about this;
When you go into your favorite parts palace to buy thinge for your beloved Dodge, you have dealt with the retailer.
The retailer is THE MIDDLEMAN between you, the consumer, and the manufacturer. You cannot buy from the manufacturer, you can't buy enough.
The business sequence is this;
Manufacturer
Jobber
Wholesaler
Retailer
Customer
Steves business puts him in the position of;
Jobber
Wholesaler
Retailer
Secret....
Steve will gladly let you buy Amsoil products at his price!
Why not ask him how?
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who cares
Dodge Dakota
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4/07/2006
16:29:00
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damn dude .. you sucking his dik or what ?
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I care
Dodge Dakota
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4/07/2006
19:50:37
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No, but if YOU are interested there is probably an Amsoil product to help you do that too!
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Dude
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4/08/2006
00:28:27
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Try:
Manufacturer,
Distrubutor,
Warehouse,
Retailer,
Jobber, (pricing for mechanics)
Consumer
And
Manufacturer
Pyramid scheme middle-man
Consumer
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Shatto
Dodge Dakota
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4/08/2006
01:14:41
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Ah, they who won't listen.
Guy's your ignorance is showing.
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trucky
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4/08/2006
02:14:31
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it doesnt matter, most of us kno ur word is better than most here shatto
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OBIO3
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4/08/2006
02:37:43
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I got nothing aginst Steve. Everybody far as I know including me bashese something automotive. Steve has got to be the only guy I know that tells it like it is and gets it right. The one thing he would normaly be bashing (other brands of oil) , he doesn't. Infact many times I seem him giving good words about mobil 1 . He does not tell anyone to change. It's up to us totally to change. Steve does a great job putting out the information we need to make reasonable decissions on our own. I don't read everything he writes as I have read it before. I have no problem with this occationl skip reading. I skip things at times others write also for verious reasons. If we didn't have Steve we would be running more blind then we already are. Same differance with the guys in here that have real Dakota knowledge. We need the whole book to make it all work proper. Just My opinion.
So many problems .... So little time
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4/08/2006
11:05:30
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Thanks you Shatto and OBIO3,
YES, ... ALL I ask is that people consider AMSOIL.
I understand why people are sceptical.
I have to admit, I was a sceptic in the beginning as well. My brother has been an Amsoil Dealer for over 15 years. He tried to switch me to Amsoil for over a decade. I never listened to him for the same reasons many don't listen to me.
However, I switched all my fluids to AMSOIL in 2001 and now I am an AMSOIL believer, ... because I can see and feel the difference myself (lower operating temps, better mpg, quieter operation, better shifting, extended drains which saves oil, etc., etc., etc.). In 2002 I became an AMSOIL dealer myself so that I could share the information with others.
That being said, if anyone is interested in finding out more about AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants and Filters please click the following link and Request a FREE AMSOIL CATALOG.
That's all I ask ... Please consider Amsoil.
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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Eye_Trip
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4/08/2006
12:30:25
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Thats a crock of sh1t!! You didn't even have a car when you started pushing this crap on this forum.
Shatto, That was the worst display of hose gobbling I think I have seen in a while.
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.boB
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4/08/2006
13:27:58
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I'v been reading this board for a few years now. I'v seen the Amsoil ads/posts. I also undertand how advertising and sponserhips work. I don't know Steve or Shatto personally.
I have never once thought it was being forced on me, or rammed down my throat. It's not possible. If I don't want to read it, I simply pass over it. Same way I do on radio, TV, newspaper, printed media, billboards, etc. I choose to ignore it. Public media exists to advertise. Do you think the internet is any differant?
Whether you want to admit it or not, our economy thrives on advertising. That's how we all make a living. Do you complain because of the banner ads at all the other web sites you visit? Especially those really irritating floating ads that won't go away? I don't, I just avoid those sites.
If you don't like it, seperate yourself from all forms of public media.
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DakotaEnthusiast
4/08/2006
14:08:43
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Mr. "Eye_Trip", ( a former site member - now a non-member )
In the "for whatever it's worth" category ... I, the www.DodgeDakotas.com AmsoilSponsor (my member name), became a member / sponsor / advertiser of this website 8/29/2002.
At the time I was leasing a 1999 Lexus RX, which I traded for a 2002 Lexus RX lease, which is up in September of this year.
Since you have a running file on what I own and drive ... here are my thoughts for when this lease is up this September, 2006.
Hmmmm ... let me think.
Currently, I pay $400 month (in Manhattan - NYC, -- not Kansas) to park my RX in the garage, a large SUV is $500+ and an "exotic" is $600+ so I must think of that when I consider an automobile.
My payments, parking and insurance are currently $1,200 month and I'd hate to put myself in a position where I would have to pay more. Thank goodness I have my Amsoil Commission Check to help offset my expenses (ha ha).
Oh yes, back to talking about my next vehicle ...
I'm leaning towards the newly redesigned 2007 Jeep Wrangler - Black on Black, Fully Loaded - just for kicks (I owned one from 1991 - 1994). If I had two vehicles one would be the 2007 Jeep Wrangler and the other the Maserati Convertible (my bro-in-law owns a Chrysler / Jeep Dealership and a Maserati / Ferrari Dealership) - but with just one vehicle I have to make the practical choice.
Or, maybe I'll just lease another Lexus RX. They guys at Lexus really love me since I've been a regular ever since I traded in my BMW Convertible for my first Lexus. I figured, if I am only going to have one car, it might as well be able to haul things, and be a luxury vehicle as well ... so maybe I'll stick with Lexus.
I would like the bigger Lexus SUV, but tight Manhattan streets and parking - you know ... not very practical, and I'm really a practical kinda guy.
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Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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DakotaEnthusiast
4/08/2006
14:16:41
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Eye_Trip,
In case you missed it the first time .....
"Thank goodness I have my Amsoil Commission Check to help offset my expenses (ha ha)."
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If anyone is interested in finding out more about AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants and Filters - or becoming an AMSOIL DEALER yourself, please click the following link and Request a FREE AMSOIL CATALOG.
That's all I ask ... Please consider Amsoil.
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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Shatto
Dodge Dakota
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4/08/2006
14:49:06
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Steve,
You want to haul?
Toureg with the V10 Diesel
300+ HP, 500Foot Pounds of TORQUE!
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SillyMe
Dodge Dakota
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4/08/2006
18:22:44
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500 lbs. of Torque. Thats alot of torque. My Hitatchi cordless drill puts out 512 lbs. of Torque and that an 18V. But, I know I am not matching apples to oranges. hehe.
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Dr. D
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4/12/2006
10:34:23
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I have been staying away from this website for quite some time
now because of all of the "Eye_Drip Flaming Anus Wars" against
Steven.
I see things have not changed here .... LOL !
I will never use any other oil other than AMSOIL and I am so glad
that Steven informed me of the product.
Dr. D
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Shatto
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4/12/2006
11:04:20
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Steve,
FYI;
I was stopped behind a Honda Pilot when a Jeep pulled next to the Pilot. I was completely supprised how much larger the Pilot was.
The point is, we buy wagons for room. I would love to get off road and see what each could do.
When I was in the Army I got a chance to see the advantages if independant suspension by driving a Jeep and M-151 (the Viet-Nam period 'jeep' made by Ford) up the same rutted hill. The M-151 had not the slightest problem, the Jeep spun wheels, bounced, slid around seeking traction. In otherwords, I had fun!
Dr.D
My mom used to tell me; consider the source....
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Eye_Trip
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4/12/2006
11:17:21
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I see Dr. Dueche bag can't possibly post anything without slobbing the knob. Looking good buddy.
"Thank goodness I have my Amsoil Commission Check to help offset my expenses (ha ha)."
I guess being a middle man in a pyrmid company has it's benifits. Welcome to amway, enjoy your cut and paste rat race.
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Shatto
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4/12/2006
11:52:53
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Eye_Trip,
In the immortal words of Abraham Lincoln; "It is better to be thought a fool, than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt."
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Yikes
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4/12/2006
16:21:55
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Eye_Trip = Penis_Drip !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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RodneyKing
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4/12/2006
16:52:33
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"Can't we all just get along? ...
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MStephens
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4/13/2006
15:30:55
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Abraham Lincoln didn't say that. That quote is from Shakespere.
Lincoln said "Four score and seven years, our American brethern started buying Jap cars and now they complain because the jobs they have suck."
Buy American and an American works.
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