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OBIO3
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1/26/2006
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http://www.daimlerchryslervehicleproblems.com/
I have no Idea how to put this site here so you can just click and go > It contains information you well be sick over about how the complaints, warrenties and dealer ships are controled > Your going to see over and over answers you get from the dealers in here and the suprise is it is all controled by the company , not the dealers > Read it all > You will not regret taking the time to do so > closer to the bottom is the durango/dakota ball joint problem and at least for me things I did not know > Don't just read the dakota part > Start at the top > It Is bad >
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Billy Bob
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1/26/2006
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OH GOD WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!
SWEET LORD PLEASE SAVE ME FROM MY DODGE VEHICLE!!!!
DEAR JESUS LOOK AT ALL THE FORD RECALLS I CAN'T TRADE MY DODGE FOR A FORD!!!!
http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/01-int/ford/
HOLY GOD LORD SAVIOR PLEASE DON'T LET ME TRADE MY AWFUL DODGE FOR A HONDA - JUST LOOK AT ALL THE PROBLEMS THEY HAVE:
http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/01-int/honda/index.html
OH CRAP I CAN'T GET A CHEVY EITHER THE LORD WILL SMITE ME IT HAS TOO MANY PROBLEMS-
http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/01-int/chevrolet/index.html
OF FAKKING CRAP I CAN'T EVEN GET A SATURN ITS JUST AS BAD AS MY DODGE IT WILL KILL ME FOR SURE!
http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/01-int/saturn/index.html
I CAN'T BELIEVE WITH ALL THESE PROBLEMS THESE COMPANIES ARE STILL SELLING THESE VEHICLES TO THE PUBLIC TRYING TO GET AWAY WITH A PROFIT!!
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Dan M
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1/26/2006
06:06:05
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I'm a little confused what that whole site is about. Everything has potential for failure.
Gee, I didn't know gasoline was flamable!
- Dan M
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RadioMan
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1/26/2006
06:46:37
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I was just at the site. I see it as very usefull
information.
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prodak
Dodge Dakota
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1/26/2006
11:51:07
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I'm not impressed. This guy clearly has a personal vendetta against DC. He goes from complaining about vehicle defects, to a "mean spirited" counter suit (apparently DC was vindicated in the original action?), to racial discrimination issues. For a factual piece there is an appalling lack of hard data - mostly vague generalizations and innuendo. Where he does cite specific numbers there are only the vaguest of references to back them up - indeed, none of his facts are referenced (don't confuse a bunch of website links with corroborative references, and links to his own site or to other coolaid-drinkers don't count). He'll claim tens of thousands of incidents caused by some issue or another, and then describes ONE lawsuit that relates to that issue. He also throws in the occasional quote from an "insider" (can you say "disgruntled former employee"?). Allegations from current employees are, of course, anonymous. I'm also amused by his use of the word "countless" when referring to problems with Neon/Stratus models. COUNTLESS? Ooooo, very convincing.
And my personal favorite, that "Internal Documents Revealed" thing, which turns out to be ONE document that he conveniently CAN'T reveal, and - here's the best part - tells you to ask a dealer to show it to you. Priceless.
I'm not saying how much of this is accurate or not, I'm just saying that you can't TELL based on this guy's enormous rant. The only thing impressive about it is the amount of time it must have taken to create this site. If you spend enough time digging up dirt on a multi-billion dollar corporation that sells millions of units each year you are going to find a LOT of it.
Sorry for MY little rant but I hate to see somebody with an axe to grind and a lot of time on his hands play fast-and-loose without being challenged.
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OBIO3
Dodge Dakota
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1/26/2006
19:31:06
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Well I sure hope all this isn't directed at me > I read it through and the reason I posted it was the fact the complaints most everybody has with dealers is repeated in the readings > actually I can not think of anything that has happened to those in here , not model for model but dealer explainations > You got to feel there's at least some truth in it > Myself, My dakota is the bet truck I ever owned >>>>>>>So far >>>>> And my dealer has always been way beyond fair with me paying for things that I never asked him to pay > But he also became a good friend prior to buying the dakota as he is my best friends brother-in-law > Oh , and he IS the owner of the dealership
So many problems > So little time
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prodak
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1/26/2006
23:18:47
| Ford, GM, and Toyota problems you never hear about
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http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/auto_recalls_often_late.htm
http://www.monheit.com/crashworthy/Vehicle-Recall.asp
http://www.carcomplaints.com/
http://www.crash-worthiness.com/ford/ford_news.html
http://www.vehicle-injuries.com/ford-fire.htm
http://www.productliabilitylawyer.com/gasTank.cfm
http://www.autosafety.org/article.php?scid=103&did=568
http://money.cnn.com/2000/09/12/companies/firestone_ford/
http://www.crash-worthiness.com/mercury/mercury.html
http://www.rolloverlawyer.com/ford_escape/Default.htm
http://www.yourlawyer.com/topics/overview/firestone_tires/
http://www.autoblog.com/2005/09/07/ford-and-toyota-issue-major-recalls/
http://www.vehicle-injuries.com/ford-explorer-lawsuits.htm
http://www.sptimes.com/2005/09/08/Worldandnation/Ford__Toyota_recall_m.shtml
OBIO3, no problem with you at all, your intention was clearly honorable, but the guy who created that website is a drama queen with a grudge. Look at the steaming pile I found in about ten minutes of googling. Sure DC has had a crapload of problems, but Ford makes them look like a bunch of girl scouts where it comes to this stuff.
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OBIO3
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1/27/2006
01:30:42
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Guess I should have known better > I'll be more csarefull next time and be sure I Know what's real
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caulk04
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1/27/2006
02:02:41
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Don't be sorry! It brings stuff like this to the attention of people who might otherwise beleive it!
Catching prodak's attention was great as well. Seems very articulate (something hard to do online) and educated.
'02 CC 4x4 4.7 HO
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2147050 <- Check it out!
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Ornery Cuss
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1/27/2006
03:39:24
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Nothing on you OB, but I would bet with enough Google time, one could dig up dirt on every car, truck, tractor, horse trailor, motorcycle, air plane, well you get the idea manufactor on the planet, heck even NASA has issues from time to time.
Bottom line, take care of your equipment and stay informed.
OC
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prodak
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1/27/2006
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OBIO3, next time you see anything like that, by all means, post it anyway and let everyone decide for themselves. Again, that was probably mostly accurate stuff, but if you remove all the drama and subjective characterizations and just left the hard facts that page would've been about one tenth the size.
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suggestion
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1/27/2006
10:18:31
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Also your posts would be much easier to read if you used periods instead of arrows.
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prodak
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10:22:53
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Actually I kinda like the arrows, has a certain dare-to-be-different sort of vibe.
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1/27/2006
10:45:23
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Yes, get rid of the Greater than signs and use some periods.
As it is, I can't read your posts because of this.
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DakotaSport
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1/27/2006
10:52:45
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The guy who made http://www.daimlerchryslervehicleproblems.com/ should move to Japan buy a Prius, then make a website about the Prius when their precious battery that powers the thing dies. That is just propaganda.
00 Dakota Sport CC 4.7L 4x4
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obio3
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1/27/2006
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Those >>>>'s had a reason. It was so everybody could tell my real posts from the fakes. Cat's out of the bag now so that won't work any more. Didn't seem hard to read to me but then it was my idea.
So many problems .... So little time
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