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Red99DakR/T
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12/21/2005
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If you check out this link (http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/keyless.asp) Here is what it says:
Remote Possibility
Claim: Any car equipped with a remote keyless entry system can be unlocked via cell phone.
Status: False.
Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2004]
This only applies to cars that can be unlocked by that remote button on your key ring. Should you lock your keys in the car and the spare keys are home, and you don't have "OnStar," here's your answer to the problem!
If someone has access to the spare remote at your home, call them on your cell phone (or borrow one from someone if the cell phone is locked in the car too!)
Hold your (or anyone's) cell phone about a foot from your car door and have the other person at your home press the unlock button, holding it near the phone.
Your car will unlock. and it works. Saves someone from having to drive your keys to you. Distance is no object. You could be hundreds of miles away, and if you can reach someone who has the other "remote" for your car, you can unlock the doors (or the trunk, or have the "horn" signal go off, or whatever!)
Origins: Many new cars now come equipped with "Remote Keyless Entry" (or "Keyless Remote" or "Keyless Entry" or "Remote Entry") systems (also known as RKE systems), a mechanism which allows automobile owners to lock and unlock their car doors remotely (from up to about 300 feet away) by pressing buttons on transmitting devices small enough to be carried on keychains. RKE systems are handy for a number of reasons: they enable drivers to unlock car doors without having to fumble around for keys (a great advantage in darkness, during inclement weather, and when one's hands are full), they enable car owners to give someone else access to their vehicles without having to hand over ignition keys, and they provide a means by which motorists can open their cars to retrieve keys that have been locked inside.
But what if you accidentally lock your remote entry device in your car along with your keys? (A plausible scenario, as many people carry them together on the same keyring.) If you own a car equipped with a system such as OnStar you can contact an operator and have OnStar unlock your vehicle remotely through a signal sent via a cellular network, but otherwise you have to call a locksmith or get a friend or relative to bring an extra set of keys out to you.
Enter the idea of the poor man's OnStar. No need to pay for a fancy car-unlocking service: just use a cell phone to call someone who has access to your spare RKE device and tell him to point it at the phone and press the "UNLOCK" button. You simultaneously point the cell phone at your car door, and voilà — you're in! A nifty solution . . . at least it would be if it weren't implausible for most standard remote entry systems.
Relaying remote entry system signals via telephone might work if the signals were sound-based, but they're not. An RKE system transmits an encrypted data stream to a receiver inside the automobile via an RF (radio frequency) signal, a signal that can't be effectively relayed via cell phone. (In any event, RKE systems and cell phones typically operate on completely different frequencies; the former in the 300 MHz range and the latter in the 800 MHz range.)
(More than a few people have inadvertently fooled themselves into believing the cell phone method of unlocking car doors actually works because they tried it and achieved the desired results — not realizing their cars were still within range of their keyless remote devices, and the signals that unlocked the doors were transmitted the usual way [i.e., through the air], not via cellular phone connections.)
It's possible this method might work with cars that use something different than standard RKE systems, but it doesn't work with the vast majority of models.
As a recent purchaser of a new vehicle equipped with an RKE system, I've found that it has reduced the likelihood of my locking my keys in the car in an unexpected way: Since I quickly became accustomed to always locking and unlocking the car with the RKE device, and I carry the RKE device on the same ring as my keys, I have to be standing outside the vehicle with my keys in my hand in order to lock it. Now if I only had something to keep me from losing my cell phone . . .
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Super bee
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12/22/2005
00:42:16
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i put a remote start on my ram
if anyone tries to drive off when its running they wont be able to stop, as soon as you hit the brake it dies, and after a programed time it dies as well, so thewy wont make it far :)
1990 sport RC SB, 1995 318drivetrain, 3.92 gears (came with truck) 95 dash/steering wheel, hearthrob exhaust, headers, cutout after y-pipe, necessary electric fan add-a-leafs, 30x9.5 mud tires, cranked T-bars, AR 39 15x8 rims, grill guard, roll bars
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Jecht
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12/22/2005
02:42:01
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thats pretty cool super bee. is that standard on all remote starts or just specific ones? do yo uhave to shut the system down and insert the key and restart it. I dont know how it works as I never looked in to one. might be something I might look in to. can yo ukeep your stock fob key system and intall the remote start up or is it one package and have to ditch the stock fob system?
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Pacman
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12/22/2005
08:34:54
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So here we are getting all technical about this issue. We obviously have too much spare time. It does work and i've verified that....so there! As for the 'ol plastic credit card spare key thing in the wallet; I suppose none of us has ever locked their wallet in with the keys? That option is not fool-proof.
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????
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12/22/2005
08:59:16
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Locked your wallet in the car with your keys? No! My wallet is carried in my back pocket. Do you carry your wallet in your purse Pacman?
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pacman
Dodge Dakota
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12/22/2005
09:23:41
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My butt's too big so I don't like sitting on it. Or would you believe I make so much money that it's too big to fit in my back pocket.
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pacman
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12/22/2005
10:51:00
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Ad how do you know I'm not a woman with a purse jack-ss!
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01DakSLT
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12/22/2005
10:55:25
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Hey Pacman,
If you make too much money that it won't fit in your back pocket, I can help you with that problem. Christmas is Sunday :)
He probably thought you weren't a woman cuz your name isn't MsPacMan LOL
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iceman
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12/22/2005
14:21:49
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Jecht, it does it on mine as well. If you get a good mechanic or electrician to set it up, you can have several cut off points. As for starting it, put the key in and turn it to the run position and you're good to go. I'm in love with mine with this cold azz weather here in NY.
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Dune_Op
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12/23/2005
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I have the XR 2WAY installed in my Dakota. It's not there to keep someone from making off with my Dakota though. My 04 Dakota comes with a Immobilizer 4 module stock. And let me tell you that thing works (It's been tested). Here in Edmonton Alberta Car thefts are a huge thing. And we have a useless Police department that doesn't really care. So it's rampid. I still remember comming out to my Dakota one day to find the ignition hanging from my steering wheel and my door handle ripped out (Very easy way to steal a Dakota). They stole everything in the Dakota but as soon as you punch the ignition or rip apart the dash you tare tiny wires that rap the ignition. If even one of these wires is cut the codes in the module are erased. And you will never start that truck. Trust me I tried. Now I didn't find the immobilizer module with the truck. No.. No.. I found that about a block up the road in my enraged state. It says very clearly Immobilizer 4 module. So the truck theifs were really stupid. Probably stole a lot of older model Daks with the glow ring (No offense to anyone who has a glow ring). Anyways. My truck would have been gone not it been for this marvel of Dodge enginering. However this still doesn't stop criminals from braking into your Dakota and stealing the contents. So thats why I got the XR Ultra Start. It cuts the ignition as well so I suppose I'm double secure in that respect and it works from 4 to 5 blocks away. But it pages me when those basta$ds even try. Which is sweet on silent cause while they're figuring out how to open your door, your standing behind them at 2:30 in the morning figuring out how hard to hit them in the back of the head. Plus it starts the truck in the winter and gets it nice and warm for when I get out there.
As an added Bonus if your Dak comes with an Immobilizer 4 module your insurance company should give you a discount as it is as good an anti-theift device as they come. Very well designed. My insurance company gives me a 5% discount for having it in my truck and it's stock. I'm not sure which model and year trucks have it, but if you do go get your insurance discount.
And if you live in the states where you can shoot someone trying to steal your Dakota put an extra bullet in him for me. The new ignition cost me 2000 bucks plus re-programming.
P.S. I'll give you the money for the bullet you waste. I'm good like that.
Working Harder Not Smarter!
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