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MadKaw
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12/09/2005
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Greg,
You did agree to supply the performer for $100 shipped.
I still fail to see why you have been unable to reply to my emails while you have time to post on all the Dak boards. It would make sense to clean up the old stuff first, wouldn't it?
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intensedak39
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12/09/2005
10:20:04
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yesterday was my first time to reply to any dak boards in over a week.
i'm sorry i dont reply to every email you send me, especially with the way you talked to my wife via AIM.
please check your emails ray.
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daveshotdako
GenIII
12/09/2005
10:29:25
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damn guys. leave the guy alone. harrassment gets nothing. the man just had a new baby boy and now he has to put up with these accusations and threats. get your pantys out of a wad and give the guy a break.
GET IN, SIT DOWN, SHUTUP, AND HOLD ON
custom 48mm tb, tps @ .768, relocated IAT, 180 t-stat, autolite double platinum, taylor wires, flowmaster 40 delta flow single in/dual out, CAI
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MadKaw
Dodge Dakota
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12/09/2005
10:40:28
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The way I talked to your wife? The email was directed toward YOU, not your wife.
I can post that one in an open forum as well if you'd like.
Back to the ethics thing, it should never have been allowed to reach this point. It should have been taken care of a long time ago. My name and reputation are good, I intend to keep them that way. I was involved with a parts problem a couple of months ago. To maintain my rep in the hobby and a freindship with a fellow MoPar guy, he got the parts (about $200 all told, I might add) for nothing! What is your name and reputation worth?
I am going to refrain from taking this mud slinging contest any further. Email checked and replied to. I await your response on the manifold and on Daves rockers.
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DakotaSport
GenIII
12/09/2005
10:50:03
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Shut up Madkaw, this guy isn't here to jack around people. He just became a father, and this is the sh*t you give him? I would probably trust this guy over alot of you punks on this board. And talking trash doenst get you anywhere.
00 Dakota Sport CC 4.7L 4x4
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intensedak39
*GenIII*
12/09/2005
11:02:31
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DakotaSport, the guy has every right to be mad.. i'd be mad if i was in the same situation.
Ray,
i am talking about a AIM message my wife got and she told you it was not me but you insisted it was... i'm not talking about an email.
we'll stay in email contact.
davesho, no need to defend me.. but thanx ;-)
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Sheesh
Dodge Dakota
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12/09/2005
11:13:16
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Most married guys become a father at some point in their life. It's not like it's a "miraculous" occurrence that has happened only to him. If he lied to somebody, he needs to make it right. The fact that he (his wife) just had a child has nothing to do with screwing people over, if in fact that is what happened. Why would these two guys come here and complain if it wasn't true? That isn't even a point that needs to be brought up in this instance. Get it straight with the people who you deal with. If something like this happened on Ebay, the person selling would not have any business because they get a rating from buyers.
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DakotaSport
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12/09/2005
11:19:12
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Your right Intense, I forgot to look at it on his side, I was one sided there, sorry about the bash Madkaw, I didn't even think about your situation either.
00 Dakota Sport CC 4.7L 4x4
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GraphiteDak
GenIII
12/09/2005
11:28:03
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Looks like it's just a bad deal for everyone all around. Sometimes sh*t happens.
When I ordered my HO cams form KRC, it took me something like a MONTH to get them suckers!
It was hard to be patient and I did email KRC a few times. But the cams eventually came. Seems that overall KRC is well respected but even a co like that can have problems sending/shipping parts.
Look on eBay. Sometimes someone will have tons of satisfied buyers. Then one or two buyers will absdolutely flame them for whatever happened.
When we buy something, of course we want it liek right now. Hoepful you all settle it :)
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Al Gore
Dodge Dakota
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12/09/2005
11:53:11
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It's like this guys.
Back in the 1950s my father, Albert Gore Sr., told me never buy anything from anybody on the internet. I asked him what the internet was because I never heard of it. He said, don't worry son, it will make you famous.
To this day, even though I invented it, I have never bought anything off of it. I don't trust anything I have done in my life, so I don't trust anyone else.
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toolfan
GenIII
12/09/2005
12:24:56
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funny one Al Gore!! lmao
[ and some mods to blow it up]
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daffydak
GenIII
12/09/2005
12:36:57
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$hit happens, don't take it personaly!
Dan
MOPAR=More Power!!
00 CC Sport Plus 4.7L 4X4 Auto, 3:55 LSD
Straight dual catack exhaust, adjusted tps to .76V, ported TB, home brew intake setup w/K&N filter, Superchips 3715 Tuner, 180* T-stat... more mods to come!!!
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Dave W
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12/09/2005
13:24:32
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Daveshotdako and dakota sport. He just had a baby. Good for him . I hope all is well there. I do not wish anything but the best. I am a father also, a 12 yr old (6 ft 3 and 250 lbs) he aint cheap to have around , a 9 yr old daughter who wants everything she sees. Also a 10 year old foster child we have had for 2 years now. I have had up to 4 foster kids living with me at 1 time before. You see, I am not a bad or unreasonable person. I just do NOT have alot of money to throw around. This has gone on for a long time now, and both Ray and myself are getting fed up. Why is that so hard to understand??? We have done nothing wrong . Telling us to shut up and leave Greg alone? We have lost money here.We are trying to get it back. If I got my refund as promised I would disappear, poof, gone. If Greg did send it , for the second time, I never recieved it, again ?. But I just do not understand how it could drag out for SO long. It started with Greg on Sept 17th.It is now December and we are still squabbling over this . I bought a valve body off of someone on BBDart and the money was sent and the transaction completed in a little over a week, a great experience and that fellow was in California . A very nice part exactly as described.So you see, this has been a bitter experience, for me. I am not a a$$hole just out to yank someone around for the fun of it, I am just out for what I paid for. NOTHING more. And being quiet about it has gotten nowhere.
P.S. Al Gore you are too funny man, that broke me up.
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Super bee
GenI
12/09/2005
13:45:21
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i jsut hope this whol emess gets straightened out so we can get back to talking about Delicious Dakotas. and not squabaling over problems and pointing fingers
a genI is awesome with a 318 ;-)
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intensedak39
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12/09/2005
15:20:08
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Dave,
i am not saying it's taking that long to get to you.. not at all.. but this did not start september 17th. Well maybe that's when you first decided you wanted it, but that's not when you paid for it.
It was not my intentions to screw you over and sell you defective parts. I pulled them off my motor the day i shipped them to you and they worked. i've had a lot of great transactions on bbdart.com, too.
i've purchased and sold stuff to about 11 people on that board.. three people locally, two in oklahoma, a couple in arizona, a couple in florida, one in new jersey and one in pennsylvania. At the time of our transaction, i sold stuff to six different people, four which are very happy with the product they got and ray's shipment, which is being resolved.
i'm sorry if anybody on this board, or any other board bark(s/ed) at you for coming here and doing this.
please check email.
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intensedak39
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12/09/2005
15:37:19
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dave,
email me so i can get your email address. Ray sent it to me but i may have copy/pasted it wrong.. my message i sent you got backfired.
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OBIO3
Dodge Dakota
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12/09/2005
19:11:02
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Wow > Sad situation all around and I'm in belief all parties concerned think there right and may be at that > Not condeming nobody here but I do know one fact that I myself have experienced > You do not get great service from UPS when something gets misplaced and more important lost or broken items are almost imposible to collect on > Been there and done that > Good luck to all >
so many problems > So little time
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Dave W.
Dodge Dakota
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12/10/2005
00:03:52
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Greg , my first contact with you was the 17th, my money order was sent to you on the 19th. I can paste the our correspondance here if you like. I have saved all of the emails. I tried to contact you repeatedly over a 12 day period to see if my money order made it to you OK. You ignored me completely, all the while you were posting on bionicdodge. Anyways, I am so sick of going over this story for a measly $80. It's not so much the money Greg. It is more the principal of it, this could have been resolved months ago, but you are not sticking to your word. Twice now you said the cheque is in the mail and it never arrived. Once, well maybe that is possible. Twice , no way,Sorry. I sent you money and it made it there the first time. Just live up to your word. By ignoring Ray and I it just makes it worse. And gets us more upset. Most of the guys on here seem pretty decent. GB2000 was not too kind to me , but I forwarded him a bunch of our correspondance and he now believes what I am saying to be true. A very nice fellow it turns out. I am glad I saved all of the emails . Anyways, you know what you need to do to make this right. Just do it, it has dragged on long enough. Dave.
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Jeff
GenIII
12/10/2005
03:12:30
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this is in a public forum so i will add my thoughts. deal with it.
:)
this is my personal summary of the situation from reading the posts on here and the thread on the other board.
Dave - you came on here and whined about Greg. Made it look like you were trying to shame him into giving you your money back. I might have done the same thing.
But further posts of yours have revealed more of the story. You chose to buy directly from a stranger, apparantly for the too-good-to-be-true low price. You changed your mind a couple times about which parts you wanted. You expected business-like responses to your inquiries. First you said you just want your money back and now you just said its not the money its the principle. All very confusing.
Greg - you decided to sell something. You found a buyer. He sent money. You sent item. The buyer said the item is not as promised. You, not being a business, were not available 24x7 to answer emails and whatnot. The buyer has asked for his money back for an item he has apparantly not offeredto return? You appear to be working to please this buyer.
my personal conclusions:
(once again, deal with it!)
Dave, maybe you should stick to ebay or other business-type purchases that have clear-cut 'rules of engagement'. I think you need that kind of structure. Also, when buying used mechanical parts from someone you don't know, it might be a good idea not to take their word on condition if you don't know them. (my local dealer's definition of a tuneup is very different from mine.) If you didn't like the ebay-photo-link, shoulda asked for a photo of the actual item before agreeing to buy it.
Greg, you sold a part that turned out to be bad. You appear to be trying to fix it, I dunno. You also appear to want to settle this issue off the board and directly with the buyer, Dave, who it seems would rather whine online and warn everyone of this injustice instead. Seeing as how you are not a used parts store, I really don't see why you should send him any of his money back unless he first returns the 'not-as-described' parts, in the same condition they were recieved.
Judge Jeff Wannabe-Wapner says:
Dave should stop whining about injustices. Greg should be more careful with his future product descriptions so people don't get confused. If Greg wants to refund any money, it should be after recieving the parts back, and less all the shipping/handling charges. If Dave wants his money back, he should work at contacting Dave to discuss possible terms for a refund, like sending back the items.
Like I said before, this thread was started on a public board, and is dragging on with no end in sight (kinda by Dave), so I decided to add my fiddy cents.
Also, I'd like to take this opportunity to say...
Kill Tookie!! Tookie Must Die!!
Kill Tookie!! Tookie Must Die!!
That is all.
Jeff
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Tookie
Dodge Dakota
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12/10/2005
09:47:47
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Jeff is right. On the Tookie Must Die part too!
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