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JMDEMT04
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11/28/2005
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Anyone know how to bypass the fog light kill when you turn on your high beams? I want my factory fog lights to stay on when I have high beams on but I want to keep the factory switch. Any ideas? I think all that needs to be done is to cut a wire but I dont know which one. Thanks in advance for your help.
99 c/c 3.9. tps @.75, 180T-stat, CAI, Relocated IAT, magnaflow cat-back.
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ucimaplaya2
Dodge Dakota
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11/28/2005
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Yeah I was wondering the same thing.... that pisses me off too.
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Dan M
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11/28/2005
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Before you go about making that change, make sure it's not illegal. In some states that won't pass inspection.
- Dan M
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ricardcapecod
Dodge Dakota
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11/28/2005
23:35:37
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What i did, was to separate the fog light switch.
Now, it works independently and the switch was installed just on the left side of the parking brake.
Be carefull to not to forget it on.
Dan M, i`m sure it is not legal, but good sense makes more sense than this idiot low. What is the point of not to be allowed to better see close when you are using high beam?
I have this set up since i bought and was my very first mod. No problems w/ inspection, once not every truck comes w/ fog light.
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GB2000
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11/29/2005
00:03:53
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Like mentioned in another post a while back... in many places it's illegal to have your fog lights on with your high beams, however, since you shouldn't have your high beams on when people can see them (referring to oncoming traffic here) it really doesn't make a difference.
Josh Blackshire - Founder, OhioDakotas.NET
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Jeff
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11/29/2005
01:18:32
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before you go bypassing stuff, make sure the affected circuits can handle any changes - wiring, relays, fuses, etc.
Jeff
'99 3.9 clubcab
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caulk04
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11/29/2005
02:21:43
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I did this a WHILE back on my 02. Works great.
What I did was basicly make the parking lamp portion of the switch activate the relay for the fog lights also. I put a switch on this wire so that I can shut my fog lights off though, because other wise they will be on ANY time the parking lights are. This does not put any addition strain on relays etc, only makes both relays (parking lamp and fog lamp) draw from the same section of the switch.
This is taken from a post back in '02 by 'mike':
"There is a simpler method then any described so far. This is referencing the 2001 Dakota Wiring diagrams in the Service Manual.
1) Locate the Central Timer Module. It is in behind the drivers kick panel. It is a black box about 4" X 4". It has three connectors on it. C1, C2 & C3. You only need to concern yourself with C1 (top 26 pin connector) and C3 (bottom 12 pin connector.
2) Remove or cut wire from pin 22 of the C1 connector. It will be a white/tan wire.
3) Remove or cut wire from pin 8 of the C3 connector. It will be a White/Violet wire.
4) Splice these two wires together.
The modification is complete. It takes all of about 10 minutes to accomplish without any tool but a wire stripper, crimper, cutter. If you choose to remove pins instead of cutting wires this can be done also, however it requires a bit more time and effort.
The Timer Control Module controls the fog lamp relay, it also senses the high beam position of the headlamp switch. By performing this mod you are essentially bypassing control of the Fog Lamp Relay directly to the Fog Lamp Switch.
This will allow use of you fog lights on either high or low beam... This works very nicely!!"
Don't quote ME on this, I don't recall if those wires are the same ones I used or not but, it gets you in the ballpark.
Remember, this stuff is all switched ground so do some probing and don't get confused.
'02 CC 4x4 4.7 HO
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2147050
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caulk04
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11/29/2005
02:27:02
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Did a little more looking and here is a post I left in another message on this topic:
"Read the last post (should be by TODD) of this post: http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/gen/5775.html
I did this on my '02 and it works like a charm. Basically ties the relay trigger wire for fogs into the relay trigger wire for the marker lights. Your fog indicator light will come on still but the push/pull will do you no good as turning on the marker lights turns on the fogs also.
Your fogs shoudl also blink with the keyless entry."
Hope this helps you out...I know I like it on my truck.
'02 CC 4x4 4.7 HO
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2147050
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dakota rules
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11/29/2005
20:41:53
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check out this web site
might be just what you are looking for
thebritebox.com
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jmdemt04
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11/30/2005
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Bear in mind that my truck is a 99. The central timer module isnt behind the drivers kick-panel. There is a box about that size underneath the dash with three connectors in it. One very large one secured to the module with a bolt and two smaller ones located underneath it. I think it would still be the same and I will probe around this weekend. I took one headlight switch apart once already. BAD IDEA! I had to buy a new one. Oh well, live and learn. Thanks again for the help.
-JD.
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eddy
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11/30/2005
02:31:36
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"Dan M, i`m sure it is not legal, but good sense makes more sense than this idiot low. What is the point of not to be allowed to better see close when you are using high beam?"
Unless I am on a pitch black road doing below 20 mph, the extra 10 or so feet of illumination that the fogs provide of those small patches of asphalt on the outter edges of the truck's path are not worth it. If my high-beams are on, adding the fogs makes next to no difference as I can already see almost the whole area that the fogs light up anyway. The factory fogs don't even add much light when used in conjunction with the low-beams.
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eddy
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11/30/2005
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Now on the other hand my aftermarket Hella DRIVING LAMPS are a whole different story. Even with the high-beams on, the driving lamps light up areas in my field of vision that I couldn't see before. If you're in places where the roads are so poorly lit or conditions are so bad that you actually believe high-beams plus fogs might make a difference, you need more powerful aftermarket auxilary lighting and aftermarket headlight bulbs.
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ucimaplaya2
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12/01/2005
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If you replace the 37.5 watt 899 foglight bulb, with an 50 watt 885 bulb you get way more light out of them. They are identical in size and dimmension but work so much better. And no its not enough to over load the stock wiring or overheat the lamp housing.
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caulk04
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12/01/2005
18:11:35
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My stock fog bulbs were 20 some odd watts (898 I think). I put in 894 bulbs which are 37.5W and don't have the black coating on the end.
Haven't seen an 885 bulb....hmm
'02 CC 4x4 4.7 HO
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2147050
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ucimaplaya2
Dodge Dakota
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12/01/2005
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you mean you've never been to walmart? lol jk thats where I found a set, they actually didn't have the 899 that my 2000 calls for. But the 885s don't have the black coating on the end either.
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choochoo
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12/01/2005
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There was a post last year on the same subject with a different set-up. It locates the under-hood relay and tells which terminals to jumper.
I might do it just for the fact that I like the ditch lights ( aka fogs ) ON with the low beams, but when I hit the high beams and the ditch lights go OFF, people think I'm flashing my lights at them. Don't need them ON with the high beams, but don't want them flashing ON and OFF. Dumb law too.
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caulk04
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12/02/2005
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Jumping the terminals may work as well, but you lose the lights off feature in the CTM. If you leave the switch on, the fogs won't turn off like stock.
Doing it like I posted keeps all the neat little saftey features intact.
'02 CC 4x4 4.7 HO
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tony
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how do you separate the fog light switch so the
fog lights stay on with high beams
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