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10/26/2005
15:49:08

Subject: Ture 5 speed auto
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Does any one have a clue in Chrysler group will have a ture 5 speed anytime soon?? I no fan of the 545REF becuase its just a 3 speed with two overdrives. Toyota,Nissan have ture 5speeds and GM will include 6speeds (starting the the 6-80E) for there new 06 or 07 trucks.



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10/27/2005
15:56:03

RE: Ture 5 speed auto
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My Dak has a true 5 speed, shifts when I want to......oh, you said auto, never mind!



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10/27/2005
20:34:17

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Dude... its spelled true



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10/27/2005
21:59:41

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So is the Viper's 6 speed manual not a "true six-speed" since it has 2 overdrives?!? WTF.



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10/28/2005
17:42:25

RE: Ture 5 speed auto
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If you look at what GM is doing there comming out with a pair of 6speeds (Hydramatic 6L80E) and Allison transmissons.





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10/29/2005
08:44:59

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Why should a 5 speed with 2 overdrives not be considered a true 5 speed ?

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10/29/2005
10:01:36

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I guess he wants it where he can select the gears 1-5 on his own. not 1-3. can you select 4th? or when yo upress the OD button it goes from 5th to 4th?



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10/29/2005
11:43:59

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Well the gears in the auto are pretty far spaced out. Maybe he was trying to say he wants the tranny more geared like a manual with 4th being 1:1 ratio instead of 3rd. With my auto i would like to have a lower second gear and another before my 1:1 (3rd) ratio on the upshift.

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10/29/2005
16:01:39

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true that, the dakota's auto's suck, really bad.



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10/29/2005
16:45:20

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Thanks Android287 you can read minds.

Yes, I'm looking for a 5 speed with 4 gears and a over drive not 3 gears and 2 O/Ds. Not only do not have to shift down back to third, but you have a lower 1st gear; Another word the gears are spaced closer. IE. Toyota and Nissan a better transmisson becuase 4th is 1:1 and its more suitable for towing.

I still can't understand why Chrysler won't up date there Heavy Duty transmisson (48RE) and borrow the a design from Eaton Fuller or Allison trannies.




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10/29/2005
20:16:31

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10/29/2005
21:44:57

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Yes Mr spencer that is correct, but i think what STS wants or is looking for is a tranny something like this.

first 3.40
second 2.00
third 1.40
fourth 1.00
fifth .70

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GraphiteDak
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10/29/2005
22:57:28

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Like a 5 speed MANUAL

Although in a 5 speed 1st is pretty low, and that is kind of cool. But when auto's have a descent stall speed, they do pretty good.


I do agree, that the 4th is RARELY used more than in brief moments. I'd like some control to drop from 5th to 4th muself.

However. It is NOT a junk tranny. Should be quite stronger than the 42/46, etc of the past. And NO BANDS to adjust/fail

With the SuperChips tuner, mine also shifts like a GOOD shift kit in a 46RE would. Plus mine still does a better job holding gears when towing.
I'm not complaining.



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10/30/2005
06:57:07

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Sounds like what you want is a close ratio transmission; the 545RFE is a true 5 speed.

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