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Skeeter
Dodge Dakota
8/28/2001
01:00:57
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Alrighty folks came up with a simple yet effective way to keep the miles low on our kota's so we can finally cheat the dealers.......
Find the fuse that controls the instument cluster, now run a wire from that to a switch....the switch will just need a power source and a ground ,and your computer controlled odometer will just turn off, with a flip of the switch of course the downside to this is you will not know how fast you are going, and will have to rely on the overhead computer to keep track of milse so you can keep your fluid changes in proper order....
let me know what you think, i have yet to do this, but a buddy has a mark VIII and it works great..
Slappy
"Come on dad let me spank it one more time"
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DarkFury
Dodge Dakota
8/28/2001
02:02:45
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Ummm... what you are proposing is dishonest and ILLEGAL AS HELL!!!
Personally, I wouldn't want to be the guy that gets your Dak after you are done messin' with it...
Whatcha gonna do... re-enable the wire between oil changes and maintenance... I'm sure the records will catch up to you...
2 words for ya... CARFAX.com
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Skeeter
Dodge Dakota
8/28/2001
02:11:00
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I do all my own maintence, so the oil changes and regular maintence would be done without anyone knowing so anyways. I know it is compleatly and utterly ILLEGAl...... It is just a little tool so you could use your warranty as long as possible, I also plan on having my Kota' til it runs it self into the ground, so the person owning it after me will be getting parts from the junkyard anyways...here is the example, you take your truck in for a recall, you have the switch on and hidden, you leave, you let it run for a while, then shut it off, till something bad happens and you have to take it in again, that way it looks like some miles are being added but not as many as there should be, .....also there is no way to trace this, because all that is being done is power is being shut off to the cluster.....
Slappy
"Dad its only a T/A, I can take it with the Geo"
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kota on 20s
Dodge Dakota
8/28/2001
03:50:12
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my friend leased a 4-runner and disconnected the speedo at 34K. well he ran the he11 out of the truck. he must have had like 100k on it before he turned it in a the end of 3 years. he reconnected the speedo and the dealer didnt know a thing. i REALLY feel sorry for the poor guy that buy's the truck thinking it only has 34k on it.
good luck
ERic
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chippy
Dodge Dakota
8/28/2001
04:00:11
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Yeah, you could disconect the dash power on you dak to skip out on some miles, but if you take you truck to the dealer they can plug into the com port below the dash and look at all kinds of good stuff, like tire sizes(switch to the 31X10.5 if you have the P235, you'll save about 10% of you miles), also rear end ratios, and other stuff like the # of times you cycled the power to you computer(disconnect battery), # of times the check engin light came on. Also the computer logs miles seperatly from the odometer on the dash. This is done in conjunction with the regulating of the fuel mixture and other stuff that the computer does. So in the end, the dealer could call you bluff because there are really two odometers on you truck.
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ALEX
Dodge Dakota
8/28/2001
09:37:49
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Oh yeah- it's not just illegal..... it's a FEDERAL OFFENSE. So, when you get caught, it's not jus tgonna be some slap-on-the-wrist-fine. You'll be nailed on fraud & other stuff. But you can do whatever you think is cool.....
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Demon-Xanth
Dodge Dakota
8/28/2001
10:31:07
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My Grand Prix's instrument cluster developed a grounding problem at about 203,000 miles (I still haven't located the ground) but I'm always willing to admit that the odometer isn't even close (esp. since I replaced the cluster) and when my insurance company asked for the milage I told them it wasn't accurate. (though being lower than the last time they probably could've figured that out)
But declocking the spedometer w/o disclosing that is not good. And on the back of the pink slips in california they ask for the odometer reading and there is two boxes, one for over the range, and one for malfunctions. Essentially what you are doing is causing a malfunction and failure to check that box WILL have legal repercussions.
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Hersbird
Dodge Dakota
8/28/2001
10:54:20
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Not that I'm for this, but I don't think the computer logs mileage, and really don't know how it would ever be able to tell a change in tire diameter. That said maybe getting a new speedometer sending unit would be the best way to go about this fraud. Then it would just be off a set percentage like 20% less then actual. It is a quick and easy thing to swap back to stock. If the computer does log mileage it would be getting the same signal as the odometer and then logging the same thing. If you wanted to do it Skeeters way just get the mopar performance computer and run that most of the time and then run the stock computer when adding mileage. I agree though then truck should last the 36 month warranty period regardless of how many miles you put on it, I thought those highway miles were supposed to be easier on the truck.
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Jimmyc
Dodge Dakota
8/28/2001
12:11:19
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I'm personally not interested in "cheat"ing anyone. I think my ability to own/purchase firearms is more important to me than 0 miles on my odometer. Anyone that messes with wiring without knowing a lot about it causes one thing, the local Volunteer Fire Dept to have experience fighting car fires. I look at my Dak as an investment and want it to last as long as possible. To advise anyone to do something illegal, and especially how to do it doesn't belong on a site like this. Save the space for useful info we can all benefit from.
just my $.02
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Hersbird
Dodge Dakota
8/28/2001
19:09:14
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It seems I've seen a lot of advice on how to do something illegal many times before on this site (street racing, moding emission systems, speeding, smoking tires, thinking about buying a Toyota, etc.) It just is interesting, and if you can learn more about how your Dakota works in the process then how bad can it be? Very few dieseases were cured by actually attacking them directly, usually the cure is stumbled upon. Who's to say we may not be stumbling on to a simple way to defete a speed or rev limiter here? There really is no need in my book to "save space" here as 80% of the topics have been covered 2 or 3 times already. At least this isn't the 5th time this month this topic has showed up like the 5.9 -vs- 4.7 deal!
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sandman
Dodge Dakota
8/28/2001
19:52:56
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jimmyc, You need to calm down. We all understand you objection to this topic. I agree that it is ilegal and not an honest practice. This is a discussion on a hypothetical question. This discussion does not act as an endorsement for the idea. Surely you discuss thing that you will never do? I bet some of these things were also illegal! Heck most all of the discussions on the performance board are illegal from and Emissions stand point!
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skeeter
Dodge Dakota
8/30/2001
10:48:42
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Holy wow, i haven't thought about the speed limiter but i bet it would work..... I have thought twice about doing this regularly and will not do it, but if it will work to knock off the speed limiter hells yeah....
Slappy
"Como'n dad lets run the import"
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