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alaskan155
Dodge Dakota
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9/05/2005
17:14:16
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well, i finally pulled those aluminum wheel wheel modeling of the rear fenders to see how bad the rust was( from salt in penns., now in OK) andit is pretty bad on the drivers side, it goes almost all the way accross the wheel wheel and a 1/2 inch down (that how much off the fender is missing). the lower lip still goes accross, but it is toast.
so what would be the easiest way(that looks good) to repair this. i am a complete noob when it comes to body work. I know all the rust will have to be cut out, but what else needs to be done?
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DAHEMIKOTA
GenII
9/06/2005
02:15:59
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When I did mine, I removed allthe rusty outer fender enough so I could get to the rusted inner fender. This included removing the lip. . I then reconstructed the iner fender, finished all the seams and painted the inner parts. Then I reconstructed the outer fender, blended the seams and painted that. The outer and inner panels are welded at the lip and if you don't get rid of the rusty area, it will spread in a short time. I will have to ask my kid if he took pictures of it when I was doing it. He sneeks down and takes pics after I go to bed. He says he likes to show his friends what I do but he doesn't want to bother me while I am working. (he got spray painted once) Dan
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alaskan155
Dodge Dakota
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9/06/2005
20:31:34
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thanks for the reply, i guess i need to get a welder and some other tools, how much does a welder cost anyhow
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DAHEMIKOTA
GenII
9/06/2005
23:39:22
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You can get those small MIG welders from Summit,Jeggs,J C Whittney or PAW for around $200-$500. The gasless flux core wire is kinda messy. I use an Argon mix with mine. I usually tack with the MIG and finish up with a TIG welder. If you use a MIG for the complete weld, you will probably have to "stitch weld" it. That is making small 1/4"-1/2" welds at a time to avoid overheating the metal and burning through. If you practice on some old fenders, you can get the technique down pretty quick. Most of the welders come with a book that recomends the proper wire feed speed and heat range to use for the metal thickness you are working on. Make sure you get a good welding shield so you don't burn out your eyes. Dan
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Super-bee
Dodge Dakota
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9/07/2005
11:56:39
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if you dont have a tig welder the method he mentioned works well
i jsut usualy spot it with little bubbles, it looks like a regualr weld (a row of nickles laying down, but it wont burn through, mind you its not as strong, but there is no great stress on the weld, its jsut there to hold together and meld the metals together. But when i weld up machine guards at work i use the spot method. dont drag it, jsut hit it, stop,move down, and repeat
but a tig is the best thing to use, and flux core wire is a mess, i prefer an argon mix
some people say 5% co2 and others say 25% and anything in between, from waht i have found the 5% doesnt seem to spatter as much
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DAHEMIKOTA
GenII
9/08/2005
23:53:15
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I am making some repair panels for the GenII Dakota rear wheel openings. Seems there are quite a few of them getting rusty. I will let you know when I have a price and some pictures. Dan
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