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STS
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1/08/2004
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Thats about like Hummer installing a Dmaxer as an option with the H2.
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jam0o0
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1/29/2004
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a diesel dak. wow that would be perfect. cheep fuel, loud, torque, Banks working on power adders. this seems like the solusion i've been wating for. so if or when?
and a side note: the fastest pickup in the world is a dakota club cab with the diesel that is offered for the ram. i think it was something like 212 mph.
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CThomp
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1/29/2004
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I keep hoping that DC will surprise us with the 4.0L V6 Detroit Delta Diesel in the '05 Daks. It has like 210hp and 350ft/lbs.
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5/04/2004
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I thought this article would be of benefit to anyone that owns a DIESEL --- or for anyone thinking of buying a DIESEL.
Excerpts from an article that appeared in National Oil & Lube News (a RESPECTED Trade Journal)
Why do people buy diesels? Are diesels better? Why do many people switch back to gasoline engines? And finally, what does any of this have to do with changing oil?
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?
Both gasoline and diesel engines use a piston in an enclosed cylinder to develop power. As the piston rises in the cylinder, it compresses the space about it, generating heat. A mixture of fuel and air in this compressed space is ignited, causing it to burn and release gases. The gases expand, forcing the piston down. This turns a crankshaft and generates power.
The difference between a gas and diesel engine is that in a gasoline engine, fuel and air are pre-mixed before being released into the cylinder. A spark plug ignites this fuel-air mixture and away we go.
In a diesel engine, air alone is compressed, raising its temperature. Fuel is then injected into the heated air, causing ignition.
Between diesel engines, there's also a difference in how fuel and compressed, heated air are mixed before combustion. In most heavy-duty diesels, air is compressed and fuel is injected right in the cylinder. In most light-duty diesels, a small amount of heated air is trapped in a pre-combustion chamber first. The fuel is injected there, causing part of it to ignite. The ignition then continues into the cylinder, where the rest of the fuel mixes with the heated air and burns.
The advantages of a pre-combustion chamber are quieter operation, more efficient combustion of the fuel and lower exhaust emissions. In some applications, pre-combustion chambers are used in heavy-duty diesel engines as well.
WHY DIESELS ARE POPULAR
Diesels have been popular for a variety of reasons. There was a time when diesel fuel was significantly cheaper than gasoline and maybe some diesel owners hope it will be that way again some day.
The primary reason people like diesel engines is due to the way the engine delivers power. Gasoline engines deliver their power at higher RPMs. Anyone who ever burned rubber in a muscle car knows that you rev it up before you pop the clutch. Diesels deliver their power almost at idle. As a result diesels operate at lower engine rpm and higher torque. Higher gear ratios can thus be used, thereby improving power, efficiency, and fuel economy. Because diesels generate peak power at lower rpm (2000-2100 for diesel vs. 4000 rpm for gas engines), they have a much longer service life.
The benefits of diesel engines have made them the most common "workhorse" in trucking, shipping, construction, farming and industry. Their adaptability to automobiles and small trucks has proven to be successful and today more and more light-duty vehicles are being equipped with diesel engines.
DIESEL DRAWBACKS
Unfortunately, diesel engines are plagued by a host of disadvantages as well, some of which can be used to advantage by an astute quick lube operator.
First, diesels are notoriously sensitive to dirt and water contamination. Impurities in diesel fuel can seriously affect the efficiency of combustion. As a result, exhaust emissions, especially smoke, are greater.
Cold temperatures are also a problem for diesels. Diesel fuel will thicken or gel to the point that it will not flow through the fuel system. Reduced cranking speed at cold temperatures may produce insufficient heat during compression to ignite the air fuel mixture. The engine is cold, fuel is cold, air is cold, and your hands and feet are cold as you try to figure out what to do next.
Although diesels are built sturdier, when they do require maintenance they cost more to repair. Replacement parts are more expensive, maintenance costs higher, and qualified mechanics often hard to find. This ties in with the broader frustrations associated with the most basic services. Many places don't carry diesel fuel. And many shops say, "No, we don't work on diesels."
Finally, there's the smell. Possibly the number one reason people get rid of their diesels is that they get sick of everything they own having a whiff of diesel on it.
LUBRICATION
There are a number of products out there that clean the fuel system, improve combustion, reduce emissions and black smoke, reduce gelling and help keep fuel stable in storage. To help raise the cetane numbers in diesel fuel several companies sell a cetane booster fuel additive. The key idea here is that there are products on the market that address the problems inherent in diesels.
Synthetic oils are another way to improve diesel performance. We've noted that diesels tend to be dirtier. Synthetic diesel oils tend to be formulated with a stronger detergent dispersant additive package to help address the extra soot and by-products of combustion. Premium synthetic oils keep engines cleaner.
In addition, because of their higher film strength synthetic lubes are better at handling higher temperatures and loads.
For cold climate diesel owners synthetic oils are almost a must. We mentioned earlier the importance of starting speed. In frigid northern tier states conventional lubes cause engine drag that almost cripples the starting capabilities of a diesel. No one appreciates the lower pour points of a synthetic oil more than diesel owners.
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Humvee
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5/05/2004
01:09:04
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Shouldnt a DMAX be STANDARD in a Hummer H2???????
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Husker49ks
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1/15/2009
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I too, would be standing in line for a diesel Dak if it should ever appear on the showroom floor of a dealer anywhere within reasonable driving distance.
According to the VP of sales for Isuzu US, Dodge has been making and selling an Isuzu powered Dakota for Europe and Brazil since late 1999. The day I talked with him on the phone, he said they had just finished a second shipment of 3,500 engines. It was an inline 4 cylinder but I no longer have the specs for it. Sorry.
According to a regional sales rep for Chrysler here in KS, Dodge had planned to introduce a diesel Dak for the 2002 model year but called it off after the events of 9-11-01.
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Dakota49
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1/15/2009
21:55:44
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Huskers49ks, I think one of the problems is those engines don't/can't pass US EPA exhust standards. Ford also has a Ranger pick up in Europe that uses a 4 cly. diesel with 4X4 as well, it gets very good fuel mileage, but can't get it here. I have actually driven one or two, but I've never driven one of the Dak's with a diesel. I think they would be great for us (U.S.)
but big brother says no.
Good Luck
Dakota49
1988 3.9 4X4 5speed
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MArk.S
Dodge Dakota
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1/21/2009
16:13:09
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As STS reported somewhere in this thread, The Ram along with the Dakota will have a V6 diesal, both 5 and 4 litres respectfully.
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STS
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1/23/2009
15:21:53
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Yes, thats according to TruckTrend and pickuptruck.com.
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