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Dakattack
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August 30, 2005; Posted: 11:21 a.m. EDT (1521 GMT)
DETROIT (Reuters) - General Motors Corp. is recalling 804,000 full-size pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles because of potential brake problems, federal safety regulators said Tuesday.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said unwanted application of the antilock brake system in some vehicles can cause increased stopping distances during low-speed braking and may result in a crash.
Vehicles affected by the recall include the Chevrolet Avalanche and Silverado pickups and the Chevrolet Suburban and Tahoe SUVs. The GMC Sierra pickup and Yukon and Yukon XL SUVs are also affected. All 804,000 vehicles trucks are from the 1999-2002 model years, NHTSA said.
GM, the world's largest automaker, had more vehicle recalls than any other manufacturer in the United States last year.
Separately, NHTSA said Hyundai Motor Co. Ltd. was recalling 36,000 of its Sonata cars from the 2006 model year because their front seat belts may interfere with the manual seat back recliner knob.
The seat belt may cause unexpected release of the front seat back recliner, potentially resulting in an injury to passengers, NHTSA said.
In a more limited safety action, the agency said Ford Motor Co.'s Land Rover unit was recalling 17,263 Land Rover LR3 SUVs to replace potentially defective fuel tanks. The vehicles are from the 2005 model year.
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Mr.Sleepy
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8/30/2005
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How ironic that you should post this. My father was experiencing the exact same problems in his sierra 1500. Basically GM gave him a 75000 extended warranty because of it, and had to refund him over $1400 in repair bills from the problem.
Add to that wonderful list, that a shaft in the power steering pump can snap in half, causing a loss of steering at ANY speed. The wheel becomes impossible to move, more difficult that it would be if there were NO power steering. And if you have Hydro-Boost assist braking, the loss of the power steering can also cause you to lose brakes completely!!! So imagine you are going 70mph on the freeway and your steering, and brakes go out while you approach a turn?!?!
GM is sooooo screwed. Their quality has sunk so low, that they are making these mistakes knowingly, in order to save a few dollars per vehicle. Professional grade indeed. More like a professional joke.
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ObieWonDakota
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8/30/2005
13:21:55
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This is the portion from that article that caught my eye the most...
"GM, the world's largest automaker, had more vehicle recalls than any other manufacturer in the United States last year."
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Dan M
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8/30/2005
15:23:10
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When you're the largest, you make more, when something is bad, you have made more vehicles with the same bad part. Just how the odds work.
on a side note, sales of trucks/suv's must still be down maybe in part to high gas prices. They extended employee pricing to 2006 trucks and suv's (maybe full size only).
- Dan M
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Adam
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8/30/2005
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Somehow, I thought someone would use that excuse of "if you make more, you have more to recall."
If you made a better product, the recall would be a moot point.
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Billy Bob
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8/30/2005
16:10:25
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GM won 3 awards from J.D. Power & Associates for best initial build quality.
DC has never won an award of any kind. When it comes to crapping out shlt off the line, DC wins, hands down.
Put that in you pipe and smoke, Adam, you latent h0m0sexual.
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NEW_SOL
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8/30/2005
16:15:55
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LMAO!!!! (I CAN PICTURE SOME IDIOT TRYING NOT TO RECLINE BACK WITH THE SEAT AS THEY TRY TO STOP) LOOK OUT HYUNDAI OWNERS!!!!!!
'00 4.7Lsct
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NEW_SOL
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8/30/2005
16:17:07
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forgot to mention due to some stupid seat belt!
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Figols
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8/30/2005
16:22:52
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Or you could be like DC and say screw the customer, we'll just keep making a KNOWN inferior part and call failures "owner abuse". DC does not like to recall it's products unless the NHTSA demands it. NHTSA will first "suggest" a recall and if there is no action taken they may demand a recall or issue fines. Rmember the Durango/Dakota ball joint issue? DC fought that recall all the way to the end. It was the consumers (I'm sure a lot of us here contributed) that help pushed that one along. That and media attention! That was/is a major WELL documented safety issue due to a poorly designed part.
GM's brake recall is due to a northeast issue (salt corrosion). Several other manufacturers have issued similiar recalls for salt corrosion (my Contour got new coil springs due to it). DC should issue a recall on Dakota's/Durango's for crappy brakes just like Nissan did for the Titan, but they won't until enough accidents have been caused by them and/or enough people petition the NHSTA to open an investigation.
Really "Dan M" is right. GM and Ford both make more vehicles every year than DC and they seem to issue more/bigger recalls than DC. The fact that DC issues fewer recalls doesn't mean that DC makes a superior product by any means.
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Mopower
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8/30/2005
16:38:53
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It's amazing how many people here though actually beleive that jumping ship from Dodge to GM or even Ford will cure all of their problems.
Whether it be brakes, balljoints, you name it, $hit happens no matter what you drive. And oh yes the Toyota tundra is also under investgation for brake and balljoint problems too BTW. (google it and find out)
I'm not slamming any of the makes, but I'm glad this was posted if only to show that ALL types of vehicles can have problems, I don't care what it is.
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LeeIococa
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8/30/2005
18:29:59
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Remember, I always said, If you can find a better vehicle, buy it.
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HELLO?
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8/31/2005
19:41:57
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Recalls for this, recalls for that.
1) Count how many people DIED because of serious FLAWS that required a recall.
How many were DaimlerChrysler related??
Okay, I'll step down off the soapbox now....
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If it has
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8/31/2005
20:58:38
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moving parts, it will break no matter what make it is.
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FOR DAN M
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9/02/2005
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actually Dan it depends on the wording of the sentence as to what it means, the statement"GM, the world's largest automaker, had more vehicle recalls than any other manufacturer in the United States last year."
means this it means they had more "MODELS" of vehicles recalled, not necceassarily more vehicles recalled as you allude to. this means that say they for example two diiferent manufacturers have a total of , say 200 different models, each, one recalls 25 models but only 200,000 vehicles, the other has 10 recalls and 250.000 vehicles recalled. the statement you are refering to and commenting on says they had 25 models recalled, not 250,000 vehicles recalled, therefor your comment that more vehicles means more recalles is faulty, what is realy going on is more models have more lousey parts in them, not more cars of a particular model has lousey parts. what it comes down to is a BIG DIFFERENCE and contrary to the advertisement that they have more factories with fewer defects then the other guy is JUST PLAIN WRONG as more bad production lines leads to more recalls, more GOOD factories means fewer recalls. Simple really.
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