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ratchet
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2/19/2005
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new Mobil1? Or observations?
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he will
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2/20/2005
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he will tell you that his product even tho it is older in technology is a better product and anything else you hear is bull crap. why would you bother to ask when YOU KNOW that is what that self rightous moron will spew.
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BigblueQC
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2/20/2005
18:29:44
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ahh, the uneducated, non-believers. Another reason why I will never buy a used vehicle again.
2002 QC 4x4 Sport Plus, 4.7L, auto, Patriot Blue, Tire & Handling group,
Heavy Duty Service group, Leer cap w/out windows, Mopar Step bars and roof rack, Rhino liner in bed and on step bars, Pace Edwards Power Tailgate lock
3.55 rear, 4-wheel anti-lock brakes, all possible fluids are AMSOIL
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02 dak
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2/22/2005
07:26:34
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Of course the "OIL WHORE" will spew his bullcrap or should I say copy and paste.
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Jake
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2/22/2005
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He is also a sponsor of this forum, and as such, his contributions keep this forum open and free.
You ingrates.
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Justi
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2/22/2005
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Let me start by saying that I do not use a single Amsoil product in any of my vehicles. That said, I am relatively impressed by the way that AmsoilSponsor never flat out insults another product and has even on rare occasion stated another product suites a users purpose better than Amsoil.
He is a sponsor with a product to sell, there isn't a single thing wrong with that. The fact that he generally gives informed posts and not just "buy my product!" to me is appreciated. He copies and pastes so much because more often than not he's answering questions that has already been asked 1000 times, wouldn't you C&P? And as far as pasting the technical info, hell, I'd prefer to read a technical write up than someone's opinions.
So I scroll past his posts at times as it's redundant info, just I do 1/2 the posts and replies on here.
Do you guys truly enjoy crying and complaining or are you all just five foot six inches, one hundred and nothing pounds and simply not have the opportunity to talk smack IRL without getting your ass kicked? If the latter is the case then by all means continue, I wouldn't want to take from you the rare feeling of superiority that you gain thru internet chat rooms..
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ratchet
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2/22/2005
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Justi, I agree with you. That is why I posed my question toward him!
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scott1981
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2/22/2005
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he has already posted some great info, but the forum had an error sunday morning and erased his and my replies. hopefully he will get around to aswering again
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Roger
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2/22/2005
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Couldn't have said that any better Justi and I also agree with you a plenty.
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scott1981
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when i replied sunday i was also jumping on another member for bustin amsoils balls. he takes his time to come here and sort through all the BS to help a few people. He is also a site sponsor and never talks down to other members or about competitors products. Seems like many here should be a little more thankful.
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02 dak
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2/22/2005
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Thankful, you must be kidding. Keep kissing Oil Whore's butt boys.
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Booty Whore
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Uh...ok little one. Your arguement against amsoil is quite effective. But then, you drive a Toyota and you visit this site in order to make yourself feel like a man. Well I can help you out 02 Dick, get a woman and quit imagining the amsoil sponser phallus in your booty.
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02 dak
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Learn how to spell retard. "arguement" As for the woman thing, Amsoil Sponser and I had your mother last night and lubed her up with Amsoil.
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Scott1981
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2/22/2005
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02 you really are a fuking tool. When you grow up and have something to actually add to the converation then make a post.
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GB2000
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2/22/2005
21:53:11
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The guy calling a dude a retard for spelling 'argument' wrong must be a retard since he can't spell 'sponsor' right.
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GraphiteDak
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2/22/2005
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Funny how about 99.9% of the people here who will EVER talk any smack are not even paying members.
maybe you're right, there must be some toy drivers coming in here pretending they drive a real truck :-)
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Eye_Trip
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2/23/2005
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.1% here, well, was a paying member HAHA
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AmsoilSponsor
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2/27/2005
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Amsoil's Official Response:
ExxonMobil Follows AMSOIL into Extended Drain Market
... Repeat: Follows! ... Not Leads.
Motor oil technology has gradually progressed since the days of the earliest automobiles. In those days, standard motor oil drain intervals were between 500 and 1000 miles, and motorists had to switch viscosity grades with the changing of the seasons. The development of oil filtration and additive technology in the 1930s allowed drain intervals to increase to 2000 and later 3000 miles, while the development of viscosity modifiers in the 1940s allowed the formulation of multi-grade oils that could be used in both hot and cold temperatures.
When AMSOIL introduced the world’s first synthetic motor oil for internal combustion engines in 1972, it set all new standards for quality.
Amsoil's premium synthetic base stocks were comprised of pure, uniform molecules not subject to the shortcomings of conventional motor oil, such as volatility and shear. Based on engine tests, drain intervals could be increased substantially, and AMSOIL recommended 25,000 mile/one year drain intervals. AMSOIL continues to be the leader in synthetic lubricant and extended drain technology, blending its oils with top-of-the-line synthetic base stocks and premium additive packages that provide optimum protection and performance and extended drain intervals.
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ExxonMobil recently announced a new line of motor oils recommended for extended drain intervals.
It was only a matter of time before another company followed the path forged by AMSOIL over 30 years ago.
Some motorists may recall that Mobil also followed AMSOIL into the synthetic motor oil business, introducing its synthetic motor oil several years after AMSOIL. The technology for extended oil drains is obviously available, but until now, the major oil companies have had other agendas. Marc Graham, who is president of Pennzoil-Quaker State-owned Jiffy Lube International, was quoted in a 2001 Lubricants World interview as saying, “At [PQS] we use a number internally that if we [shortened the drain interval] by 100 miles [for each car serviced], it would mean an additional $20 million in revenue for the company.” He also explained that “if we could move our customers to get one more oil change per year, it’s worth $294 million for the oil change alone and $441 million in revenue, when you include the ancillary products and services customers typically buy along with the oil change.” ( Foul! )
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Mobil backed off 25,000 mile oil change intervals in 1974.
Mobil briefly recommended 25,000 mile oil drains in the 1970’s. It’s not difficult to figure out who they were trying to compete with. AMSOIL was the only other company offering synthetic motor oils and recommended 25,000 mile drain intervals. However, it may be that because vehicle manufacturers weren’t yet comfortable with extended drain intervals, Mobil retracted its extended drain recommendations and simply recommended motorists follow the intervals specified in their vehicle’s owners manual. Of course, traditional oil change recommendations also allow Mobil and other motor oil companies to sell a lot more oil. Everyone wins but the customer.
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AMSOIL stands apart from the competition.
AMSOIL has always formulated its products to be the absolute best, continually researching ways to make its already outstanding products even better. Other oil companies, however, are beholden to shareholders, and one could speculate that their incentive is to maximize profit. They formulate oils down to a price, rather than formulating them to be the best they can be. Then, they price their products to maximize profits. In addition, AMSOIL has 33 years of experience blending premium extended drain synthetic oils. That’s 33 years worth of proven performance in the field.
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A close look at ExxonMobil’s new long drain motor oil line reveals that two are petroleum based (not synthetic oils), one is a synthetic blend (approximately 10% +/- synthetic) and only one, Mobil 1 Extended Performance, is a full synthetic. The petroleum based products are recommended for 5000 mile drains, the synthetic blend for 7500 mile drains and Extended Performance for 15,000 mile drains. However, a look at the fine print reveals that ExxonMobil is still recommending drivers follow the oil drain recommendations listed in their owners manuals during the warranty period. AMSOIL synthetic motor oils are recommended for 25,000 mile or one year drain intervals in both new and older vehicles. The AMSOIL warranty stands behind this recommendation.
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AMSOIL has recommended 25,000 mile/one year drain intervals since 1972.
AMSOIL delivers the highest quality lubricants on the market. It’s the AMSOIL identity, and it’s what customers expect. Al Amatuzio coined the phrase “extended drain interval,” and from the beginning, AMSOIL synthetic motor oils have been formulated for extended drain intervals.
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Vehicle manufacturers are pushing for extended oil drain intervals.
Vehicle manufacturers in Europe have been recommending extended oil drains for years. In fact, the average drain interval in Europe is 10,000 miles. Vehicle manufacturers in the United States are definitely coming around to extended oil drains as well. Most owners manuals from recent model vehicles recommend 5000 to 7500 mile oil drain intervals. In addition, oil life monitors have become increasingly common on today’s vehicles, allowing and encouraging motorists to increase drain intervals up to 12,000 miles, even when using conventional oil. Vehicles equipped with an oil life monitor no longer recommend oil changes based solely on mileage. The system measures engine operational data such as temperature, revolutions and speed to determine when the oil is nearing the end of its life.
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The motor oil industry is faced with the extended oil drain interval issue.
The success of oil life monitors has posed a threat to motor oil companies who insist oil must be changed every 3000 miles. It becomes increasingly difficult to maintain this position when vehicle manufacturers are recommending significantly longer intervals with the use of their oil monitoring systems. This is no doubt one of the reasons ExxonMobil finally introduced a line of long drain motor oils.
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AMSOIL products are available for less.
The suggested retail price of the top oil in ExxonMobil’s new line, Mobil 1 Extended Performance, is $5.79 to $5.99 a quart. That’s right in line with AMSOIL 5W-30 and 10W-30, which retail for $5.95 a quart. By registering as an AMSOIL Preferred Customer, customers pay only $4.65 a quart (wholesale and the same price dealers pay), and even less when purchasing by the case.
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Why choose the FOLLOWER (Mobil1) when you can choose the LEADER (Amsoil)!
AMSOIL has recommended 25,000 mile/one year drain intervals since 1972.
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You can Request a FREE Amsoil Catalog by clicking below.
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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2/27/2005
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Read and absorb that information and I will be back with my own
"Non-Official" response to the so-called "new" Mobil1 line-up.
Why choose the FOLLOWER -------------- Mobil1 ?
... when you can choose the LEADER --- Amsoil !
AMSOIL = 25,000 mile/one year drain intervals since 1972 (over 30 years).
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Repeat: AMSOIL products are available for less.
The suggested retail price of the top oil in ExxonMobil’s new line, Mobil 1 Extended Performance, is $5.79 to $5.99 a quart. That’s right in line with the retail price of AMSOIL 5W-30 and 10W-30, which retail for $5.95 a quart.
By registering as an AMSOIL Preferred Customer, customers pay only $4.65 a quart (wholesale and the same price dealers pay), and even less when purchasing by the case.
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You can Request a FREE Amsoil Catalog by clicking below.
Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com
AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products
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DynamiteDAK
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3/01/2005
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Yeah that is about all that Mobil can do is follow AMSOIL !
I called a Mobil1 tech line years ago (1995) and they said that
they had No intention of offering an extended drain motor oil
and that they did not recommend using Mobil1 any longer than
5,000 miles.
Is Mobil trying to play "catch up" now to the leader in the
industry ?
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Joe X
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Also read "The Evolution of Base Oil Technology" at
http://www.chevron.com/prodserv/BaseOils/docs/ebot.pdf
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